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How quickly could I learn to read Portuguese if I'm fluent in Spanish?
Also what are the best translations of Pessoa?
Spanish translations are acceptable if they're better than the English ones.
>>7440269
If you're fluent in spanish you should instantly get 70 % of Portuguese. All the people I know, myself included can understand Castillano perfectly fine being that Portuguese is our first language. There are grammatical variations but nothing to overwhelming. Most of the diferences are vocabulary but most times the words are a lot similar. In regards to your other question - não existe melhor tradução que a língua original !
>>7440439
t. Alberto Barbosa
Lay it on me, folks.
Idolatry probably
knowledge of good and evil
The real Original Sin, that we know of, is Satan's rebellion against God.
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Just started reading this after reading and loving The Death of Ivan Illich because i found a physical copy in my house.
Im on chapter two and its fucking terrible. Should i continue with it?
>>7439975
Maybe.
It has big ideas about the nature of humanity and our place in the cosmos as well as being a damn good political drama. The characters are all so very self-aware, almost neurotic yet there still manages to be surprises. It has central arc of a hero myth throughout the book that ties everything together nicely. But my favourite thing about Dune is that it's a good primer for the 2nd book, Dune: Messiah, which is my favourite in the series. It's completely different and I regard more of a character study. In fact, I think I'm going to read it again now.
Are you new to Sci-Fi? It's the greatest Sci-Fi ever written but I can understand if it's unpalatable to people who read Dostoyevsky and academic /lit/ instead.
You can go fuck yourself if you're a fantasy pleb though.
>>7439995
I'm new to almost everything, just started reading seriously few months ago and i read some Tolstoi novellas , some camus, 1984, and a few other terrible books.
This is my first Sci-fi and so far is boring me to death. Just wanted to know if i should continue wasting my time with it or just drop it.
>>7440065
Try reading Childhood's End if you haven't read any SF before.
I really don't know as much about Italian lit as I would like to. What are some of the best authors and works, besides the obvious answer Dante.
here's the obvious answerread the sticky
Calvino, specifically
If on a winters night a traveler and invisible cities
>>7439924
An anon once described Tabucchi's "Pereira Declares" as a brilliant work, so try that out if you want something a bit more recent.
I thought it was alright.
So, anyone here ever I Ching: book of changes? Thoughts? Gonna get it tomorrow.
>pic related
It's alright, if you don't read it in chinese you're going to miss a lot of the jokes and puns. The book is just a compilation of ancient memes and times people got trolled but some dank daoists. Taoism was the /b/ of ancient china
I used to be really into it until I realized that it was doing more harm than good in terms of my psychological health.
>>7439982
damn
tell me, if you may, how many pages it had +-? I found a version but not quite sure it is right
Why do I feel so empty, /lit/?
I honestly never got the hype for DFW. I've only read This is Water and some quotes that are sometimes attributed to John Green but he seems like the kind of guy who writes shit for middle aged women to share with each other on facebook. Everything he says seems to be convinced that it is positive and anti-cynical in spite of overwhelming odds, as if it defines itself by it's lack of cynicism and false hope. Kind of like the notes that chocolate companies put on the inside of the wrappers to reassure fat menopausal women that their lives aren't really hollow hedonistic...
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>>7439909
>I honestly never got the hype for DFW. I've only read This is Water and some quotes
>I may have misjudged him though but I doubt it
modern /lit/ everyone
Why do you feel so empty, OP?
Hello 4chan Literature did you guys forget about me?
Go to bed tao
>>7439501
It is only 6:00 o'clock PM in New York at the moment, and besides I must pack for the Fifth Season.
>>7439504
Are you actually Tao? :o
Hey lit,
I have never read any postmodern fiction.
I have read many classics; lots of Greeks, all Shakespeare, 18th and 19th century lit (mostly Russian, French and British), modernists, etc.
The closest thing to postmodern I've read would probably be Borges.
Anyways, my question is what do you suggest for my first? Maybe a short, few book, reading order to get into it?
Should I just jump right in to OP? You all seem to like it.
quit beating around the bush and read Gravity's Rainbow
Lot 49
Thoughts?
My stomach is a bit sore and I wish I'd done more of what I was meaning to do today.
I turned the dial to 29 and felt like this book was worth reading tonight.
I think they might, but I'm no android so I can't say for sure
Dear /lit/, are there any books that are best read tipsy/drunk?
Cant really focus on the text with more than a little wine
>>7438808
Hemingway - For whom the bell tolls
>>7438808
Atonement. You laugh and then cry a lot.
Hey /lit/ you don't know shit, if you wanna go full meme, this should be the new meme trilogy.
Also
>reading Szentkuthy in translation
>eternal_pleburrence.jpg
im up for this, i didn't even know who szentkuthy was
>>7438497
basically a nigga, who outprousted proust
I wrote this back in the other thread, I think that Miss Macintosh, my darling would fit greatly into new meme trilogy.
Anyway, Musil is great; never heard of Szentkuthy before; I would be afraid of Zettels Traum - I read some earlier books by Schmidt and they were so dense already, I can't almost imagine how difficult his later works are, however what I read was unbelievably good.
where do i start with >pic related? am considering tracing him backwards as well, but I'm looking to get to know his major works first
first you're gonna need hegel and nietzsche and heidegger and it wouldn't hurt to get marx and some frankfurt school. also althusser and maybe walter benjamin.
then you can go straight into the memes: derrida and delleuze
just don't. you won't need him. ever
>>7438463
thanks for your qualified opinion
Hey HPL fans, do you enjoy "regular" horror?
"yes"
"yes"
No. Not really.
who are some criminally unknown russian authors?
>>7437721
That guy who wrote that proto-joyce novel that nabokov vouched for
-Anna Akhmatova
-Vasily Aksyonov
-Leonid Andreyev
-Mikhail Artsybashev
-Isaac Babel
-Andrei Bely
-Andrei Bitov
-Ivan Bunin
-Lydia Chukovskaya
-Sergei Dovlatov
-Venedikt Erofeev
-Afanasy Fet
-Vsevolod Garshin
-Aleksander Griboyedov
-Vasily Grossman
-Ilya Ilf and Evgeny Petrov
-Daniil Kharms
-Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky
-Mikhail Kuzmin
-Nikolai Leskov
-Vladimir Makanin
-Osip Mandelstam
-Vladimir Mayakovsky
-Yury Olesha
-Nikolai Ostrovsky
-Victor Pelevin
-Ludmilla Petrushevskaya
-Boris Pilnyak
-Andrei...
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>>7437730
andrei bely? agreed.
Has anyone read this? Thoughts?
>>7437478
>spirituality without religion
Most spooky thing ive seen all day
If you do not believe in god you cannot believe in morality
>>7437718
>If you do not believe in god you cannot believe in morality
>believe in morality
What? This is the silliest thing I've read in days. Do explain.
>>7437755
There is no basis for morality outside the metaphorical or social contract.
Source: the whole history of law.
