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My galley, chargèd with forgetfulness,
Thorough sharp seas in winter nights doth pass
'Tween rock and rock; and eke mine en'my, alas,
That is my lord, steereth with cruelness;
And every owre a thought in readiness,
As though that death were light in such a case.
An endless wind doth tear the sail apace
Of forced sighs and trusty fearfulness.
A rain of tears, a cloud of dark disdain,
Hath done the weared cords great hinderance;
Wreathèd with error and eke with ignorance.
The stars be hid that led me to this pain;
Drownèd is Reason...
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>>7610249
Highschooler detected
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See you in hell
>>7610253
>highschooler detected
Nope, I'm studying literature in Europe.
>>7610255
Yeah you wish fag.
I want to develop a basic understanding of literary theory and its history/evolution and thought this might be a good place to begin. Am I making an awful mistake?
Norton Anthology is usually accepted as the gold standard, but the Johns Hopkins has a very good reputation as well. Just note it's more of an encyclopedia (organized alphabetically) as opposed to the Norton, which traces major theorists chronologically.
The Johns Hopkins also doesn't include excerpts, but is rather just essays outlining major theorists + some general contextualizing and interpretive information.
>>7609625
Thank you, the Norton Anthology is exactly what I was looking for.
These were posted the other day:
Abrams - The Deconstructive Angel
Barthes - Death of the Author
Benjamin - The Storyteller
Derrida - Structure, Sign, and Play in the Discourse of the Human Sciences
Foucault - What is An Author
Jakobson - Linguistics and Poetics
Miller - The Critic as Host
Orwell - Politics and the English Language
Schopenhauer - On Authorship and Style
Wimsatt - The Intentional Fallacy
http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/iWrNbwkv/file.html
With these orders:
Historically:
Schopenhauer - On Authorship and Style
Benjamin...
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I have to choose one of these books for my History class. I obviously don't want to waste my time and money if it's going to end up being a shit book, so throw me some suggestions please.
Book 1: Revolutionary Mothers, Berkin
Book 2: George Washington's Secret Six, Kilmeade and Yaeger
Book 3: A Narrative of a Revolutionary Soldier, Martin
Book 4: Partisans and Redcoats, Edgar
Book 5: Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates, Kilmeade and Yaeger
Book 6: The Barbary Wars, Lambert
>>7609603
Not that any of these are shit. Rather, I'd just like some outside opinions that aren't google reviews. Sorry if any of this made me sound like a dick.
>>7609603
pls
>>7609615
Through google you can find reviews in academic journals. Check those out.
i´m interested in "sacred geometry" (metatron, life flower, platonic solids kind of stuff) and beauty mathematics (fibonacy, golden proportion etc).
i do not know where to start, i never study "hard math", just the basic calculus and algebra or fin a serius book about it (just mystic mindfart).
what can you recomend? something to start with and get the bascis
thanks /lit/, by the way, if you have something in spanish (i lear english but i prefer my mother lenguage if possible) that will be the best thing, but if dont i can deal with english
Maybe start by learning the correct terms for the things you're supposedly interested in, as well as how to spell them, then go and ask on /x/ rather than /lit/.
Start with Euclid's Elements
>>7608850
sorry for any spelling horrors, i came to lit couse i want something more serius abour (an study about their presence in history maybe?). anywhere i find something interesting i just end up with "iniciation" and stuff like that.
How many of you are Primary, Secondary, or University English Literature teachers, or students studying Literature with notions of becoming teachers?
I teach International Baccalaureate English A at a private school in Asia. This year I'm teaching:
Othello
The Great Gatsby
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Fight Club
~15 poems by Edgar Allan Poe
~15 poems by another author (I did Elizabeth Bishop the previous two years but want to pick a new poet)
I'd like to discuss attitudes and ideas toward teaching as well as future aspirations...
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>>7608632
>I teach in Asia
So it's safe to assume you were a mediocre university student that is arguably borderline retarded and had no actual prospects post-grad so you fled to Asia? Nice
>>7608635
Not too far off the mark. The job I have now is legitimate high school teaching, but I don't claim to be a great inspiration to my students or Harold Bloom or anything.
I could go back to the states and teach the same curriculum with slightly less enthusiastic students and much less pay, which is partly why I'm still here.
>>7608635
tfw I would have done this if I were white
...Asian countries being as racist as they are I'd imagine being brown would nullify being American.
Hey /lit/ i was assigned to do a essay on Shakespeare and need some tips on what play he has done that's easy to write about.
I'd love to help, but, my pockets are filled with appreciation as it is.
>>7607659
Othello should be easy enough to write about. If you're really bad with the bard, you could read spark notes while you read it.
Can anyone help me out here? I need to create a Shakespeare scene using lines from any Shakespeare play. It has to be either a retelling of a scene from Twelfth Night, AMSND, TotS or R&J or a new epilogue from any of them. Gotta be at least 20 lines. I encourage you to be as crude as possible since my prof actually loves that shit.
Is it very difficult to read, digest and understand philosophy without a class or instructor? I want to start reading some by Plato or Descartes but I'm sorta worried I'm in over my head.
Avoid Kant and post-modernists and you'll be fine.
Descartes is probably the easiest to read.
Definitely find some secondary sources or a good annotated edition of the works. In the case of older philosophers, a lot of time you read them and think "Well that's obvious, of course that's true" but their significance is either a response to certain historical contexts we're not familiar with or perhaps a word being used in a way that you don't grasp the full significance of. So yes, by diving into the work without help it will go over your head, no question, but you don't need to have an instructor on hand to discuss it with either.
If you put the effort in you can understand most works quite well without classes, but of course you must still study.
ITT: We post a picture an other people recommend books based on it.
Pls.
sorry i can't think of any good recs or else i'd actually contribute
/lit/ humour thread?
Hello /lit/ people,
I would like to make a request for which you seem the most skillful : what are the essential methods of comparative literature ?
I'm not skillful in literature studies, but I think comparative literature methodology could help me in my research activities.
Do you have clues about this methodology ? What are the main references related to comparative literature ?
your question is just as broad and unanswerable as "what are the methods of literary analysis" or "how do you read"
you're gonna have to ask a better question to get a response...
Okay sorry.
As I understood it, comparative literature consists in comparing content of groups of texts or of some specific texts. It helps to identify figures or themes that can be found in separated literatures. If I'm right, comparative literature is rooted in "foreign literature."
I wonder how the comparatist's rigor, or the replicability of her/his method, is ascertained ?
Looks sleazy, reads easy, /lit/'s wheezy?
>>7609722
Please type in full sentences on here
>>7609725
Tom Robbins looks sleazy. But his writing reads easy. What is /lit/'s opinion about Tom Robbins?
Are you now a happy fascist?
>>7609740
How can I be a happy Fascist with all the degeneracy going on? Your man is one of the contributors to the downfall of white society.
What is the answer to molyneux's problem?
He needs to stop making promises he can't deliver on. Maybe make B&W3 or DK3 and not have them rushed to release. Fuck Fables and that stupid film making series. What was that about? Don't tell me, I don't want to know.
>>7609682
kek
>>7609674
>molyneux's problem
idk.
But sometimes I like to play this game : see an unknown object far away in my room. Before, I used to think, "wtf is this?". Now, I play with it. I tell myself : this is surely an object that I know quite well, nothing mysterious. I'm just experiencing pure raw vision of that object under an unusual perspective.
I tell myself : in a few seconds, you'll guess what that object is, and then, not only will every angle make sense, you'll also have in your brain an idea of the hidden angles, and the function.
I try hard to remember what I'm seeing when I can't tell what I'm seeing, because I know that as soon I will identify it, it will be impossible to see it purely anymore, the concept (or percept) of it will be unforgettable.
Also, in such cases, I used to be annoyed quickly, and instantly get closer, or move my head left and right to get a better 3D view.
Now I don't move, and play a guessing game : what fabric? what purpose? what hidden angles? etc
Then suddenly the concept comes (like when you identify the duck or the rabbit) (duck_rabbit.jpg), and I laugh about all the weird theories I had made. How far I was from the answer.
Then I take some time to ponder about vision and objectivity, knowing that most things I see, I see the concept, not the thing in itself.
Quite like reading : when you read this, you don't see the letters. Only children do. You only see the forms. But you will see the letters of homunculus, or shsoggforgtace, because these are unusual words.
What is the answer to Molyneux's problem?
idk
I guess he'd have to learn to recognize a cube and a sphere.
Because when I see something, I don't know what it will smell.
But of course it would depend on a lot of things, like if you explain to him what a cube looks like, or not.
How does /lit/ think of this book?
It's a bit prescriptivist and out of date. Fun though.
>>7609430
Will it help me improve my writing?
>>7609423
The general principle of being precise and clear in order to avoid misunderstanding is good. There are definitely times to ignore their particular guidelines though.
Got a load of free books from a rejected second hand sale.
Which should I salvage /lit/
pic1/5
2/5
3/5
>>7609305
Dubliners and Sons and Lovers
Dan Simmons thread?
I know he's probably pleb tier by /lit/ standards, but which book of his should I read next?
Nearly finished pic related but have also read:
Carrion Comfort
Hyperion
Fall of Hyperion
The Terror
"The Abominable" sounds very similar to The Terror based on the description. I'm leaning towards Song of Kali or Black Hills. Any suggestions?
>>7609282
I was surprised how good Hyperion was.
>pleb by /lit/ standards
They hardly understand that epic sci-fi/fantasy can't reach the quality of classics but it neither intends to.
>>7609282
For genre-fiction he is high-tier, being able to switch between fantasy/sci-fi/horror and usually get a good reception is pretty impressive tbhf.
out of the ones I've read
Hyperion - 8
The Terror 8.5
Song of Kali - 7
Black Hills - 5
Black hills is kinda of uninteresting but worth a read if you are a huge fan I guess, would rec. Song of Kali over it for sure.
>>7609310
Hyperion is one of my favourites. I enjoyed it much more the second time around. Fall of Hyperion not so much. The first half was pretty good but felt the Severn & the Core arc got a bit too complicated.
