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Times you revealed yourself as a pleb?
>I once put an apostrophe in Finnegans Wake
>>7847316
>reading Finnegans Wake in any language except Traditional Gaelic
wew
>>7847337
the Italian translation is internationally recognized to be better than the original itself
>>7847347
In what way? I'm genuinely curious as to how you rate translations of a book that's supposed to be confusing.
The Bible is obviously one of the fundamentals of the Western canon, but I can't face/don't think it's a particularly good use of my time reading all of it. Are there a smallish number of particular books that I could go on alone? Or are there any introductory works on Biblical allusion in Western literature?
I'm pretty sure I know most of the basics (Genesis, Moses, Abraham, Job, most of Jesus' life) but I come across references that I would not have recognised if not for notes fairly often.
>>7847290
I'd say the whole thing is pretty dope but I'll limit it to the fundementals:
Read the Torah: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Number, Deuteronomy.
Read the beautiful stuff: Ecclesiastes, Job, Song of Solomon
Read Isaiah, the only prophetic work required to fully understand the weight of the NT
Read all of the Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
Read Acts.
Primary Epistles: Romans, Corinthians, Ephesians, Timothy, Hebrews, 1/2/3 John
And of course read Revelation.
I would say that you should probably just man up and read the whole thing through, but if for some reason that's hard, in my humble opinion the top picks maybe would be Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Daniel, and Isaiah off the top of my head. Just go ahead and read the entire New Testament honestly, it's not that long and shouldn't take you all that much time. Maybe drop Acts if you must.
>>7847407
This is a good list
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Will reading this book repeatedly for entertainment purposes make me think I'm literally Holden and do something destructive to either my life or someone else's?
>>7847263
no not really though if you're such a sadsack to continue to identify with him you're just a confused young kid
hopefully
Hey /lit/,
I just finished Gravity's Rainbow and it was the best fucking thing I've ever read. Everyone says it was Pynchon's best, though, and when I tried Inherent Vice afterwards it felt like a completely different author. I stopped reading halfway through 'cause I just couldn't get into it. Which book of his should I try next?
Also I'm open to recs from other authors.
Mason and Dixon is different but some regard it his magnum opus. The rest is stuff you read if you just want more Pynchon.
M&D
>>7847262
V. if you haven't read it yet. M&D is the next best thing after that but I still think GR is his best.
Are there any non-fiction books about cults similar to the one in true detective?
'no'
>>7847247
*runs away*
>>7847247
why are you so mean?
Hello writing people.
I have a question for yall. I have to analyze some shit and it got me thinking: How do writers go about writing stuff? Do you have the idea and the meaning you want the piece to have before you start writing, or does whatever you're writing acquires meaning in the process of writing/after it's done.
>>7847198
What shit do you have to analyze OP?
>>7847216
Cat in The Rain by Hemingway.
I was gonna go about doing in in a particular way, but now that I'm thinking about it, it's not gonna work. But yeah, I got to a point where I was wondering what difference does it make if the idea was there before the text or it appeared after the text. And can there really be any meaning under the surface in the second case?
>>7847198
It varies from author to author. Some people go for a mood, some people go for multiple meanings, etc, etc.
In all likelihood tho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author
Is this any good or should I watch the movie and save some time?
reddit thinks its good
>>7847115
Start reading it and if you don't like it 1/3 way through, drop it.
Or just read it all anyway, it's a short book.
>>7847115
It's decent. Sorta entry-tier but not bad.
wtf is up with James franco making all these shitty movies from classic books. what do you think about this? is he a pseud. I'm not taking this to the movie board. those guys are fags.
lol I actually have this book with with cover. it was $2 kek
>>7847071
with this*
He's probably going through that realization that many celebrities go through: that people don't see him as an artist, just an entertainer. This usually leads said celebrities to try more "serious" projects. I don't know why he thought As I Lay Dying would make a good film, though, lol.
he probably has an interest in books like most of us here but books are hard to adapt into movies because a lot is missed out on and so all his movies seemed to be over dramatic in a "hollywood" kind of way in order to make them seem more exciting and they turn out bad.
In Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race he writes: "Lovecraft is perhaps the most felicitous example of someone who knew ravishments that in another context would be deemed 'spiritual' or 'religious.' Yet from childhood, he was undeterred from a precocious atheistic materialism (or nihilism, pessimism, cosmic indifferentism)."
and
"Whereas Lovecraft was uninterested in the human race except for its scale in proportion to an indifferent universe full of monsters, Blatty has proven himself as someone who...
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>>7847056
his essay on supernatural fiction?
the sentiment is obvious though if you've read his stories
>>7847112
* he did not believe in a god at all, not even in the abandoned sense...
>>7847112
>>7847152
>essay on supernatural fiction
Thanks, I found it here. I pretty much was able to gather a lot of the information for his stories, but sometimes it is nice to see the authors comments.
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/essays/shil.aspx
>he did not believe in a god at all, not even in the abandoned sense...
Oh well. I was hoping for the other, but that definitely...
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Is blood thicker than water?
at what temperature?
So I previously posted my short story in the past for critique. I mostly got complaints about the grammar, etc. So I've gone back and edited my short story to the best of my abilities. I'm mostly looking at critiques for content, but grammar critiques are acceptable too, as long they're constructive.
Also this story is on Wattpad, which requires a login. It isn't anything too hard to sign up for but if it's a problem for you, I understand. Please refrain from complaining about it in the comments, you will be ignored.
Thank you and here's the link:
https://www.wattpad.com/230500684-a-misguided-arbitration
what makes you think your story deserves its own thread?
moreover, why does it merit having a cover?
and jesus, you really expect me to create a wattpad account just to read your precious little story?
who the fuck do you think you are?
the arrogance is incredible.
>>7846978
Who says I'm arrogant? I think you are mistaking professionalism with arrogance...
>>Back to the cheeto bag you go.
>>7846987
>professionalism
>I previously posted my short story in the past
Keep it up, son.
I finished this 2 weeks ago and though I enjoyed it I don't understand the hoopla around it. To me it seemed like the book was about
1 deconstructing how people romanticize/catastrophize romantic feelings
2 mocking artsy people who do nothing but drink and smoke weed
3 pointing out how cruel people can be towards one another i.e. humans as inanimate objects
what are your thoughts on the book and is it pynchon's best?
>>7846902
It's more-so about the animate vs the inanimate.
Think of the different incarnations of V. and of the machine that speaks to Benny, I forget the name of it.
>>7846902
Of Pynchon's big 4 (V., Gravity's Rainbow, Mason & Dixon, Lot 49) I would put it only behind GR, and its actually close between the two.
I know the term gets thrown around too much, but this truly is a 'sprawling' novel- set in places from New York to Africa to Europe to Egypt. It's crazy imaginative and its bizarreness got us all amped about what would be one of the most promising literary careers of our time.
V. is funny. It's a detective story about obsession, and...
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>>7847203
>V. better than Son & Xon
anon pls
MFW reading Proust on iPad Kindle is only sane way of reading Proust.
>>7846892
Im sure it is exactly the Way he intended it to be read
I read the first book on my phone and on my computer, just the way books should be read in the 21th century...
y dont you join the 21th century loser
>>7846892
You should have moved on from reading it to summarizing it.
I'm on page 157. I haven't picked it up in 3 months. I remember vague details of what I read so far. Should I start over or continue? If I start over, I doubt I'll ever finish it.
>>7846806
>he fell for the meme
>>7846806
Skim what you've read so far; give it an hour or maybe two.
Try putting it down and coming back to it later. Maybe read something else.
I recommend The Infinite Jest by DFW
Where do you get your steaming hot cups of ideology?
>>7846740
the trashcan
>>7846740
From my corporate sponsors
>>7846740
Fukuyama and Huntington.Sometimes Jared Diamond
