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Writers who chain smoke while they work. Who has kicked the habit and has it affected your relationship with writing, the act of writing in particular.
>>8064699
Yes, they may. And so are you?
>>8064744
What?
Anybody up for a bit of a game/test?
I came here to get some help with my writers block but figured perhaps I could extend what I wanted to anyone else willing to participate. What I wanted was to ask you guys to submit an: idea, metaphor, character, setting, theme, picture, etc., that I could write about--while also dictating whether it be prose or verse. Then I'll take a few hours to do my best to write about it interestingly (obvious troll submissions will be disregarded).
I then figured I'd extend it into a thread where anyone else who would like to partake may say so and do so. This way, it's like a spur of the moment, throwaway critique thread that helps get the brain into a writing mood. Or else, not even a critique thread, but still an attempt to help break some writers block.
Anime becomes real, hilarity ensues.
>>8064676
The only real anime I watched was DBZ when I was younger. I never got into it now that I'm older, so I'm not sure how well I could do with that in a few hours.
But it's the only suggestion for now. Do you want prose it verse?
And would you also want a suggestion and to try this out?
In Chicago, IL., a Hellenistic Polytheist and revivalist of Alexander the Great's Empire finds himself endowed with extremely powerful telekinesis and grapples with his role in the progression of mankind.
or some shit
I remember seeing a really detailed infographic here that provided a kind of flowchart for approaching the Classics. If someone could post it again that would be great. I want to try to knock out a bunch of this over the summer.
It was like this infographic but with a much broader scope
>>8064424
You mean this senpai?
>>8064432
It was laid out like the picture in the OP, but this is very good as well. Many thanks
this one for the greeks?
Where are those threads, /lit/? I'm disappointed.
these threads are better
>>8064464
*tips*
>>8064465
what is tipping* about this
Holy shit, how have I never heard of this brilliant man?
This is some of the best anti-Marx, anti-collectivism stuff I've ever read, and this guy's background was completely working class
>>The explosive component in the contemporary scene is not the clamor of the masses but the self-righteous claims of a multitude of graduates from schools and universities. This army of scribes is clamoring for a society in which planning, regulation, and supervision are paramount and the prerogative of the educated. They hanker for the scribe's golden age, for a return to something like the scribe-dominated societies of ancient Egypt, China, and Europe of the Middle Ages. There is little doubt that the present trend in the new and renovated countries toward social regimentation stems partly from the need to create adequate employment for a large number of scribes. And since the tempo of the production of the literate is continually increasing, the prospect is of ever-swelling bureaucracies.
>There is not an idea that cannot be expressed in 200 words. But the writer must know precisely what he wants to say. If you have nothing to say and want badly to say it, then all the words in all the dictionaries will not suffice.
>It is doubtful if the oppressed ever fight for freedom. They fight for pride and power — power to oppress others. The oppressed want above all to imitate their oppressors; they want to retaliate.
>They who clamor loudest for freedom are often the ones least likely to be happy in a free society. The frustrated, oppressed by their shortcomings, blame their failure on existing restraints. Actually, their innermost desire is for an end to the "free for all." They want to eliminate free competition and the ruthless testing to which the individual is continually subjected in a free society.
This is a perfect critique of every asinine social movement we have today in America:
>Hoffer argued that fanatical and extremist cultural movements, whether religious or political, arose under predictable circumstances: when large numbers of people come to believe that their individual lives are worthless and ruined, that the modern world is irreparably corrupt, and that hope lies only in joining a larger group that demands radical changes.
I had to look him up
Seems pretty based, kept working on the docks even after getting published
>>8064288
>/pol/ thinking marxist philosophy is at all relevant in present-day geopolitics, or anywhere outside of the plebosphere
>>8064342
Marxism was a tool of political destabilization used by capitalists to break up established governments that were not willing to lay down. McCarthyites are dumb as fuck.
I've been reading Dubliners recently, and the stories are good, but I really can't understand Two Gallants.
The ending is the main thing that confuses me. What is the "gold coin" supposed to mean? Am I supposed to know? Is this intentional?
>he doesn't get the gold coin references
it's from a proto-hittite fable, aren't u familiar with pre-mosaic levantine folklore? stay pleb fag, joyce aint for u
>>8064233
before u go nuts googling ur head off, that was a joke, i don't know what the fuck it was about, the chick was a hooker, so probably something to do with fucking, but like dubliners basically sucks so who gives a shit
>>8064259
having to explain the joke ruins it, anon
I think I found the best book ever
A cult classic, I am informed.
*throws out manuscript*
Nothing new under the sun
What is it about?
What is /lit/'s genuine opinion? Pleasure reading for between classics?
Classic are already pleasant.
>>8064178
Classics*
People are at bottom concerned about self-identity. If you're here, you are invested in being superior. The culture here makes anyone who isn't leave.
Therefore no one will read or allows themselves to enjoy Dan Brown here, more or less by definition.
I am looking into getting Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, I was just wondering which English translation is best.
>>8064080
I have the penguin edition. Honestly, it isn't really literature in the sense that the prose matters. It's more of a random assortment of lessons Aurelius learned over his life.
the version i just wrote, in which the word 'ass' can be used as shorthand for any idea or compound of ideas assigned to it:
ass
>>8064080
Pick up the Penguin Great Ideas one i'm reading it at the moment.
The translation isn't really important because it's just a series of aphorisms that he coined over the years.
So now that we all know that God is Dead and the only non-futile response to this is to create your own authentic project-of-being, what is yours?
>God is Dead
Can you show us his corpse?
>>8063977
>le timid frenchman.jpg
Why though?
>>8063999
I buried it inside your mama sweet pussy, faggot.
Also, nice trips.
My sister is turning 11 next week and I want to get her a good book, she has a good sense of humor but a short attention span. Any suggestions?
Finnegans Wake
Lolita
>>8063890
Have her read the entire Genesis and pray to God to fix her retardation.
Is it pretentious to use "literary language" in my day-to-day speech? I sometimes find myself using rhymes, metaphors, alliteration and all kinds of literary devices even when I am just talking to regular folk.
Am I a faggot?
Pic unrelated
>>8063795
it just means you aren't a normie
Stupid people get embarrassed when they don't understand words, so they lash out verbally.
Show them that you perceive this and laugh pitilessly at the clumsy attempt to mask their shame.
If you are not intentionally doing it in an attempt to appear more intellectual or intelligent, it is not, by definition, pretentious. Friends and students of mine occassionally call me pretentious because of my word choice or how I pronounce things, but I just believe in being deliberate and precise with my word choice and I think my sometimes seemingly odd pronunciations are a result of an accent that is influenced by my family being from one region, growing up in another, and spending a significant amount of time in a third before recently moving back to where I grew up.
I actually had to show my students that culinary can be pronounced "CUE-lin-ary", for example. At the same time, I'll use "y'all" in informal conversations because I spent a lot of time in the deep south.
Tl;dr: who gives a fuck what they think as long as you aren't actively trying to seem like you're superior. Do you.
So I was trying to think of the top 5 novelists/short (NOT poets, playwrights or philosophers) story writers in each of these categories: French, English, German, Russian and Rest of Europe. I wanted to see how each 'team' would stack. Here's what what I got.
French
>Marcel Proust
>Louis-Ferdinand Celine
>Samuel Beckett
>Gustave Flaubert
>Anatole France
English
>James Joyce
>Herman Melville
>Virginia Woolf
>E.M. Forester
>Vladamir Nabokov
German
>Franz Kafka
>Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>Thomas Bernhard
>Robert Walser
>Ernst Junger
Russian
>Nikolai Gogol
>Mikhail Bulgakov
>Fyodor Dostoyevsky
>Leo Tolstoy
>Vasily Grossman
Rest of Europe
>Cervantes
>Italo Svevo
>Jorge Luis Borges
>Witold Gombrowicz
>Knut Hamsun
I like my French team over pretty much anyone else, although the Russian and Europe team would pose a threat... Let's see yours.
Borges in Europe, really?
>>8063703
>Anatole France
dans mon pays, cet homme, il n'est rien.
>>8063703
English should be
>David Foster Wallace
>George R.R. Martin
>Stephen King
>George Orwell
>Thomas Pynchon
What pulp stories do you enjoy between more serious reading, /lit/? I've always like Conan the Barbarian, but I want to try either Tarzan or John Carter soon. Are there any others you like?
agatha christie
Hijacking OP's thread to ask:
Has anyone read Raymond Chandler here, is he good?
>>8063511
Vonnegut is my go-to author for light reads.
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