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I paid 2€ for this secondhand edition of Ulysses. Printed in 1986.
Does it worth?

>PS: I'm really surprised with the printing quality, seems better than a lot of 2015 books.
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>1986

probably not, sorry bud
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Unlucky, you got the shitty Gabler edition- which was unanimously dropped for its numerous edits and changes to the text.

(hence the low price)
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Any copy is. Good luck ever really enjoying another book though.

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Has Sam Harris ever been wrong?
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>>7510234
Thank you for the honest answer.
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I don't agree with determinism or materialism
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"God don't real" - Sam Harris

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It appears to me, clearly and distinctively, that the majority (or a half, at least) of modern and postmodern literature relies heavily on the literary device of intertextuality, which is - in brief - 'building your text on the basis of another, rather significant, text'. For example - Ulysses by James Joyce exemplifies the use of a classic text (in this case - Odyssey) in order to create a brand new work of art by changing the context and, supposedly, fragmenting the meaning of the whole text.
Another example of this is the implementation of the medieval romance novels inside of Don Quixote or the rich system of references inside Faust by Goethe (which then served, alongside other works, as a role model for Doctor Faustus) and the memetic masterpiece known as Hypersphere (yes, this is a serious remark).

According to my observations - literature is heading towards the prevalence of complex, intertextual and the inferiority of original and 'crude' works. Am I blind or dumb, or is it really nearly impossible to develop a work of art that is purely new and free from the zeitgeist of intertextuality? Is it possible to create a new epic nowadays?
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>tfw you want to say "textual field" so badly
>tfw you want to make an entire shitty pretentious post just so you can include the phrase "textual field" somewhere in it like a big gaudy gem in a carolingian crown
>tfw the above reference was intertextual

BUMPING THIS THREAD LIKE DURIEL IN ACT 2
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>>7510226
a big part of this is simply that original ideas dont really exist

the entire canon is like one big conversation in which people continuously step on the heads of those who came before, and i definitely don't think this is new. the only reason we can call Homer original, is because we cant see what inspired him
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Ask yourself this: has there ever been a time when intertextuality wasn't a thing?

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>Main character has literally nothing to do with the plot
>the whole story is basically told from a side-character's view
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>>7510047

What is the first half of Star Wars: A New Hope?
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>>7510047
What is Moby Dick?
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>>7510202
pleb/10

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How can one man be so devoid of talent?
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>>7510043
Whatever HE considered unfathomable horror, it pales against the tenebrousness cuntmongering of his recent popularity.
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>>7510043
>And then.... the protagonist discovered... That he was of... MIXED HERITAGE
I like him
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>>7510043

>HP "Impugn the Coon" Lovecraft
>devoid of talent

then explain this masterpiece:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Creation_of_Niggers

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ITT: We post fictional characters resembling 4chan boards.

>Holden Caulfield is practically /r9k/
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>>7510031
Get the fuck outta /lit/

You didn't get the book
You thought you did
You also thought you knew something about ''le internet meme culture''
You made a pointless thread
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absolutely not
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>>7510031
fuck you

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What are the best books about mages and other spell casters?
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>>7510015
The Magus by J. Fowles

hehe ;)))))))) ((((((;
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>>7510016
What's so 'hehe' about it?
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>>7510022
Is not about mages m8

Usually /lit/ is very hateful towards genre fictionand other stuff, but I decided to be just a bit facetious instead of offensive.

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You wake up

Its a typical desert island scenario

You get to pick the complete works of any three authors to read while you stay there

In addition you also get to pick one author and one philosopher to stay with you to help pass up the time. They will bring along unlimited amount of their favorite food for you to eat.
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dostoyevsky for profound shit
pynchon for complex and involving shit
elmore leonard for fun readable shit

no idea who i'd want to hang out with though. i don't pay much attention to what authors are like irl
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Bible
Chrétien de Troyes for adventures
Denis the Carthusian to contemplate and hate perfidiam Mahometi
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>pick Diogenes the Cynic as your philosopher
>the food sucks

Is there a name for that space under December?

What do you call it when a novel doesn't use a chapter system?
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It's called a 'beat'
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is that snow country?
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A "scene break". In manuscripts, to represent this you always use # on its own line (whether or not it appears at the top or bottom of a page).

Been tempted to buy this edition for a while. It collects Dracula, Dracula's Guest, and other stories by Stoker. However, I've seen a couple of reviews saying the stories are heavily edited. Anyone can confirm?
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Are you guys dead?
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>>7509655
you obviously don't use this board
get out
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>>7509658
Sorry for not being a hardcore /lit/ user who has memorized Ulysses from cover to cover. I just want to confirm what I'll be getting if I buy this.

I need a collection of short stories as varied in theme, content, and setting as possible.

Can you help me /lit/?
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Any collection of Donald Barthelme's is just what the doctor ordered OP. To the extent that "voice" or "style" are a writer's brand, he's the unbrand writer par excellence.
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You could always shoot for something like the Norton Anthology of Short Fiction.
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Tolstoy - Collected Shorter Fiction

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which one do i read first?
1. women & men
2. infinite jest
3. grav rainbow
4. brothers k
5.2666

pls respond
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>>7509379
W&M is almost two times longer than IJ.

Start with that
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Start with the Greeks.
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brothers k, then gravity's rainbow. The rest are good but not really essential

What are some good operator novels, /lit/?

No need to answer straight away. Take your time, finish your dinner first.
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Mark Bowden's maximalist novel "Black Hawk Down" is bretty good. Better than Clancey. That is the only operatin' novel I've ever read.

Hope that helps.
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Storm of Steel, I guess
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>>7509345

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six

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Ok guys, this may be a bit of a stretch, but please bear with me.
Im looking for some books on either or both of the following subjects:
An entry level well researched history and explanation of "secret societies" that is not totally /x/ tier conspiracies.
A book on the history of religion, with a focus on the role that religion has played within society as a stabilizing and/or controlling force. Again hoping to avoid fedora tipping "No god no masters!" type literature.
Thanks
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Gravity's Rainbow
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The Damned by Joris-Karl Huysmans.

Also, look for some Papus' writings on secret societies. Those XIX's "magicians" were good at historical researchs.
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>>7509326
My friend did tell me about some Japanese book about the influential and secretive Black Dragon Society.

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Post God-tier covers
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