Post them, lads.
Funny, you won't understand any of them either m8. Fuck off, this thread is old.
>>7515807
I wonder who's behind this post
>>7515807
>OP or how to trigger a roastie
I think I finally 'get' the
>he reads translations
meme. For years I just assumed it was pseudointellectual wankery but I've come to realize the credence behind it after reading novels by Saramago, Boris Vian, Houllebecque and a few others.
When I was younger I enjoyed the shit out of P&V Russian translations and never saw a problem in the slightest but now I'm beginning to see how absolutely pointless it is to even read translated works by a lot of authors. The fire of their prose is completely extinguished.
My question, are there any authors worth reading in translation? So far I've enjoyed Proust and the Russian canon but that's it
>he didn't read Odysseus in ancient Greek
what a pleb
>>7515667
Barely relevant, but Douglas Hofstadter wrote an excellent book on literary translation titled 'Le Ton Beau de Marot'.
>>7515704
Odyssey would literally be a perfect example of what I'm referring to. And everything else by Homer, for that matter, fucking trite and boring slog, yet it was literally those works which held together the Greek city-states and connected the Mediterranean culture and civilization.
>87 years old
>Still conducts lectures
I think hell be fine
>>7515593
i like this new meme :3
>>7515593
>53
>under the ground
I think hell be fine
>91 years old
>still writing the best shit since Joyce
I think hell be fine.
EULIA!
REDWALL!
>Furries
MARTIN!
>see book i want to read in a language i can't read
>take out the only translation in my library
>it's shit
>find a pdf online of a different translation
>it's shit
>research on different translations, find one that is said to be fantastic by people who's opinion I respect
>find pdf online purporting to be this translation
>get halfway into the book before realizing it isn't even the translation it claims to be, but is instead a far less acclaimed one
>i finally give up and just pay for the edition i'd been looking for
>mfw it's unbeliavably better than the one i'd almost finished
>mfw i have to start the story over from the very beginning
what book?
>>7515201
the iliad. read it a very long time ago so i didn't remember much of it and decided to reread it since i'd enjoyed it so much.
What language?
Is he the new jesus?
New Atheists have many Jesus'. They seem to think any Atheist professor or scholar is infallible.
No!!! Euughhuck.
Not the New Jesus.
>>7515023
is that ben stiller
I want a name for a fictional carbonated drink.
I want threads about literature on /lit/ but we don't always get what we want.
Buy Drink™
HELLO.
COULD ANYONE TELL ME WHAT ARE ALL THE ALLEGED SOURCES FOR HERACLITUS’ “FRAGMENTS” OF “ON NATURE”?
WHAT OTHER ALLEGED SOURCES FOR HERACLITUS’ LIFE ARE THERE IN EXISTENCE, BESIDE “LIVES AND OPINIONS OF EMINENT PHILOSOPHERS” BY DIOGENES LAËRTIUS?
rei?
I'd say but I'm with the lads. Just don't trust the penguin edition as it mistranslates and is shit. Try to find a copy of the Oxford First Philosophers or LOEB as they will give sources using proper numbering and use good translations unlike Penguin.
P.S I am slightly drunk so my post may be sloppy in quality.
>>7514930
YOU DID NOT EVEN COMPREHENDED MY QUESTIONS.
DO NOT RESPOND IF YOU CANNOT EVEN COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ.
Just finished Bartleby the Scrivener, a great comfy read.
Thoughts?
Similar recommendations?
>>7514852
>comfy
More like too close to home.
>>7514874
This is what I was going to say.
Benito Cereno is great too.
Entirely different, but with a similar pacing and length I'd recommend First Love by Beckett.
The Ego and its Own.
>Have you read it?
>What did you gain from it?
>What did you think the overall message was?
>Have you read it?
yes.
>What did you gain from it?
disdain for /lit/, stan, anarchists and and a greater appreciation for The German Ideology..
>What did you think the overall message was?
>thinking in middle school terms
underage. MODS
>>7514666
>implying there is anything wrong from getting a central message from a piece of work
>>7514677
MODS
What does /lit/ think of Hunter S Thompson?
good for that special time in your life when you are impressionable for all your recreational drug use, and you need the writer to be an interesting character before you are able to enjoy the text
his 9/11 piece was good
Turning in his grave for being known as LE DRUGS man
Name one good thing philosophy has offered to mankind.
>protip: you can't
>pic related, a field worth of study
Answers
>>7514505
/lit- literature
>>7514524
To what questions exactly?
How do I into poetry?
Recently became quite attracted to the idea of poetry. I've leafed through some of Ezra Pound's ABC and read a little bit of Eliot. I'm planning on doing it properly though, going to read:
The Iliad
The Odyssey
Theogony
Works and Days
Metamorphoses
The Aeneid
Divine Comedy
The Canterbury Tales
The Elder Edda
The Prose Edda
Beowulf
The Nibelungenlied
I do want to read most of those for their own sake, but would that be a good list to start with?
Learn meter and poetic forms/structures.
>>7514454
Any good books for that?
Nigga, do you want lyric or epic poetry? All the stuff you posted is epic, not lyric.
http://pastebin.com/cBZknniE
What the fuck is this?
It's an advertisement for a trout stream selling at about six dollars and 50 cent a foot, unless you want a waterfall and then the price may be as high as $19.00 per foot. It's a beautiful stream though.
It's an amazing book is what it is. I
>>7514363
It is an excellent book that bridges the beat generation and hippies. America.
welp, /lit, I'm almost finished my novel but I can't get an agent because I haven't had very much published. I need to write some short stories and get them out there.
My problem is I have no idea what to write about. I find it easy to think of plots et al. for novels, but short stories are fucking difficult. What can I do to get the juices flowing? Are there any rules of thumb for short story writing that can help me formulate basic ideas that are both good and concise?
Just write it like you're writing a novel, but make it shorter.
>>7514329
good one kiddo
Writing an actual book is hard as fuck, but if you're smart and have good taste you can write a plot for a decent contemporary novel with little struggle.
Thinking of something small but effective is hard as fuck. It absolutely does not translate novel --> short story
>>7514335
>It absolutely does not translate novel --> short story
Aside from Borgesian philosophical essay-style stories, or po-mo Barthelme experiments, they pretty much are. Have you ever even read short stories before? They're just stories, like novels. You have characters, and you put them through a plot which has events. It's just that you have to be concise about the stories because they gotta be short. Learn how to convey a character's personality in simple gestures and dialogue, and learn how to make small events imply larger emotional implications and themes.
