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ITT: give the opening line, sentence or passage of the book/story you're working on.

"It is often said that history is written by the victor; now, I'm not entirely sure who this victor chap is but I can assure you that he left out quite a bit - perhaps he was demented, or a little crippled boy."
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If I read that opening line in a book id just opened, I would frisbee the book out my window so fucking hard my wrist would ache afterwards
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>>8071051
Why? :(
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>>8071041
This is a joke post right

Was DFW fat?
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he was bulkin
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he always looks pretty unhealthy in his photos
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>>8071023
He was phat

anyone heard of any good contemporary russian lit?

I've only heard of pelevin, prelepin and sorokin

I want something less sci-fi though
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>>8070884
Russians forgot how to write after the fall of the USSR, its like Rome in the dark ages now
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>>8070893
he's right, unfortunatelly
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>>8070893
that's kind of wrong, nothing really good came out of russia post-khrushchev until the fall of the soviet union

the writers I listen above are all pretty good

russia also produced an incredible amount of good poets in the post-soviet era

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What are the main arguments against despooked egoism?
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>>8070238
The ego itself is a spook
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Read Plato's Gorgias.
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>>8070240
How? And what wouldn't be a spook, in that case -- or is that the point?

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So, I'm going to start this off by separating the discussion into two sections

1.) Economics Literature - books more focused on economic history and theory rather

Ex.) The Alchemists, The Bazaar, Why Europe Grew Rich and Asia did not, etc

2.) Economic Philosophy - Marx and the like breaching into the philosophic side of things


Now, what are good pieces of literature from both categories regardless of political affiliation? I want to broaden my knowledge and understanding of this field, as it may one day become a career for me, and frankly the topic intrigues me a lot, so, recommendations?
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You should start with Adam Smith and David Ricardo, the OG modern political economists. They are the reason the west is so rich today.
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>Economic Philosophy
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>>8069294
A Y N
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>Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!… The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”—What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich…. Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more! The German nobility, which is fundamentally a Viking nobility, was in its element there: the church knew only too well how the German nobility was to be won…. The German noble, always the “Swiss guard” of the church, always in the service of every bad instinct of the church—but well paid…. Consider the fact that it is precisely the aid of German swords and German blood and valour that has enabled the church to carry through its war to the death upon everything noble on earth! At this point a host of painful questions suggest themselves. The German nobility stands outside the history of the higher civilization: the reason is obvious…. Christianity, alcohol—the two great means of corruption.

What did he mean by this?
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Nietzsche is triggered as fuck by Jesus and never really got over it.

inb4 he "respected" Jesus. No he didn't.
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>>8069053
I like Nietzsches ideas in general but I think he's got shit backwards. Islam is life-denying as fuck, and German pirates looking for gold and Alcohol were pretty damn good at saying yes to life
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>>8069053
An SJW that I dated for a month had a banner photo on twitter (if that's what they're called) that was a cartoon of topless white girl standing next to a woman in a hijab. Both of them were smiling because they were women making their own personal decisions about how to express themselves and their bodies.

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how are the sequels?
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>>8068236
unnecessary
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>>8068236
I liked Messiah a lot.
But if you do read the second book you need to read the third and forth.
The first and forth are ebin XD
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>>8068252
Why, don't tell me they're fedora-tier, are they?

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Is there a more selfish feeling than romantic love?!

In romantic love, you want the person for you.

You can only be happy if she is with you.
You will only manifest your love if she is by your side.
If she (or he) is with anyone else, you will feel something like sorrow or anger.
If she does not see you in the same way, you feel sad, you'll say things like you were friendzoned or rejected.
Romantic love is wanting a human being for you and you alone.
Normally, with any other form of love, like that between a mother and a child, or two brothers, even between friends or a human and his pet, it doesn't involve any of this!

I see romance as very, very selfish.

Would you agree?

How can romance be moral, ethic, etc, when it is inherently selfish? Is romance wrong?
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>>8068212
Romance is for fags
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>>8068212
>morals
>ethics
Child please
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>>8068216
Even if what you said is true it does not contemplate my questions.

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ARC Anon is a Fag Edition

Previous thread >>8054973

>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/

Have you ever received an ARC?
What was it?
Did you lie about it being shit so you could get more books at a later time?
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first for Would spaceships have bugs on them
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>>8065920
>ARC Anon is a Fag Edition
Just because we would jump in ARC anon's pants for a copy of the book doesn't mean we have to be rude about it.
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>>8065924

Not if you could sterilize everyone entering or exiting.

Even then, it might be impossible to avoid without some kind of futuristic tech

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do you guys use money as a bookmark?
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i don't have any money
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I spend all my money on Sodiepops and cigarettes at the gas station
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Yes. Nice thread by the way

>1942+74
>not being an Absurdist

whats your excuse, /lit/?
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>he fell for the continental meme

shaking my head
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i'm a coward, spooked and conditioned beyond recovery
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>>8057115
I think everyone who chooses to go on 4chan from one degree to another is an absurdist

where to start with dickens

pic related
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>>8076357
Great Expectations
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Oliver Twist
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Nicholas Nickelby
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Tale of Two Cities
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free choice

also
short stories + Christmas books if it is near Christmas. do not read them at other times of the year
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Might as well start with A Christmas Carol if you haven't read anything by him.

All his major works are equally fantastic to be honest Dickens is the business
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>>8076437
any great expectations edition in particular?

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Hello /lit/,
About to read Rayuela (Hopscotch) by Julio Cortázar, any suggestions on how to go through the book? I know there's a linear approach and then a jumping approach in which the reader plays "hopscotch" with the book and reads the chapters according to the table of instructions in the beginning of the book - jumping around from chapter to chapter.
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His unibrow was immaculate
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Do the second jumping approaxh. There is no real incentive or reward to reading the limited version, it doesnt give a different interpretation and the majority of the fun stuff comes from the additional chapters anyway.
Enjoy it, its pretty comfy desu.
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>>8076340
So I read the first part continuously, and then the second part hopscotch style?

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> A screaming comes across the sky.

What did he mean by this?
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>>8076291
alex jones type retardation
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Something something erections and poo and bananas
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>>8076291
>Rachel was looking into the mirror at an angle of 45°, and so had a view of the face turned toward the room and the face on the other side, reflected in the mirror; here were time and reverse-time, co-existing, cancelling one another exactly out. Were there many such reference points, scattered throughout the world, perhaps only at nodes like this room which housed a transient population of the imperfect, the dissatisfied; did real time plus virtual or mirror-time equal zero and thus serve some half-understood moral purpose? Or was it only the mirror world that counted; only a promise of a kind that the inward bow of a nose-bridge or a promontory of extra cartilage at the chin meant a reversal of ill fortune such that the world of the altered would thenceforth run on mirror-time; work and love by mirror-light and be only, till death stopped the heart's ticking (metronome's music) quietly as light ceases to vibrate, an imp's dance under the century's own chandeliers....

Not even memeing here, what the fuck did he mean by this?

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How does this make you feel?
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Atleast he didn't rewrite it.
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Sort of a fun exercise.
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>>8076216
lol so randum tier

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