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Dear /lit/ newbie here with a (possibly stupid) question. What makes this Bukowski's poetry poetry?
Granted I don't know much of his work or what the basics of poetry are, but from what I can see its just ordinary prose with weird indentation. Could you please point out what I'm probably overlooking?
>>7841669
Bukowski wrote his poetry almost exclusively in free verse, no meter, no rhyme scheme, not much of any of those technical devices that seem to make poems "poemy." Hence the appearance of "ordinary prose with weird indentation."
I'm no poetry expert, but aside from those aforementioned poetic devices like rhyme and meter, really the only thing that makes something a poem is being called a poem. A poem should also elicit some kind of emotional response. Bukowski wrote a fuckton of poems, some of which were great, and a lot of which were dogshit. The "ordinary prose with weird indentation" ones are likely the latter. The good ones stand out, but you gotta dig for em. Here's a good, brief article about Bukowski's appeal as a poet:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2007/sep/05/bukowski
>>7841735
Poetry is metrical writing.What Bukowski produced cannot be called poetry.
>>7842030
grandpa please
finally finished this bookI didn't get it
>>7841554
das coz ur dumb lol
>>7841554
There's not much to "get" besides vague ideas of how the earliest philosophers thought about the world they inhabited.
Right now this is largely a stepping stone for you to get into Plato. Maybe later you can return to these guys and maybe glean more from them.
Why would you want to read Sophist drivel? The real philosophers all started off by destroying the sophists and then getting to the point
Help me like this book.
I loved Jude the Obscure, but Madding Crowd is boring as shit. What subtle nuances am I overlooking?
>>7841526
i made it 100 deep into this before giving up.
just put it down and read Manon Lescaut
>>7841526
there's a movie with Carry Mulligan m8. Now you can see the plot unfold with a certified qt. Solves the issue of spending hours reading the shitty book.
>>7841526
Just go watch the movie, it's very good.
![200px-The_C_Programming_Language_cover.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pjssrjY.png "200px-The C Programming Language cover.svg[1]")
How the fuck did you guys get accustomed to reading non-fiction? It's not even that I'm not interested in the subjects I want to read (mainly computer and programming related stuff),becase I am, but I get le ADD meme and can't fucking focus for more than 15 minutes before I get distracted by something else. This doesn't even happen when I read really expressive virgilian shit.
>>7841516
>It's not even that I'm not interested in the subjects I want to read
that's your problem. it has to be interesting to you. as paul goodman saif about how children learn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlbhIqmM_oE
>>7841518
*said
>>7841518
but I said that it is interesting to me, or at least, I'm interested in the idea of learning it... which I guess might not be the same thing. But then, how do I evaluate this dissonance between what I want --or think I want-- and what I feel? I feel envy those with innate discipline.
>mfw I look up my advanced writing professor and he turns out to just be an alt-lit garbage artisan
What now, /lit/?
kys
Drop out and stop wasting money on a garbage degree.
>>7841433
Had the same thing happen to me. Enjoy it, and try not to be the overly critical Harold Bloom of your class. But do try to figure out how well read this professor is. I was able to get my professor to talk about some high literature pretty far until he was unable to keep track of some novelists I mentioned.
ebook collection rate (if extensive charry pic)
A compilation of hp lovecraft stories
The wheel of time series
The book of five rings
The art of war
The kingkiller chronicles
Song of fire and ice
>>7841432
just go to reddit dude. you'll be better off
>>7841432
Post screenshot. Terrible taste btw
>>7841432
Are you purchasing these? Or are you asking us to rate your current collection? Are you 12? Would you like a real collection?
https://u.pomf.is/ncylao.torrent
>flip to last page to see exactly how many pages there are
>try really hard not to read anything
>read the end of the last sentence anyway
>>7841392
The amount of god damn times this had happened...
You will yourself not to but your eyes are drawn there by a god like force.
EVERY. DAMN. TIME.
Better to just flip a page or two before the end to see how many pages.
I've done that shit, though. Even if I'm on the last page, my eyes want to read the last words and I can barely concentrate.
>lying in bed at night
>start reading book
>read for 1 hour
>decide I've read enough
>pick up phone and browse internet for 2.5 hours
If I were to right a Philosophical book, would you recommend it be written as Nietzsche does, with separate yet connected paragraphs with many parables and hidden meanings, or more akin to regular books such as Kant or Descartes?
>>7841385
Shit, write*
I would say that unless you have some serious post-grad level philosophy under your belt not to write philosophy at all. Almost everything you write will be laughably wrong. Please don't.
Saying that I like thinking so I do philosophy is like saying I like drawing pictures of houses so I'm an architect. It's a serious discipline that only serious academics are able to contribute to.
>>7841612
>Saying that I like thinking so I do philosophy is like saying I like drawing pictures of houses so I'm an architect.
(After failing to learn how to play the piano in one afternoon) "But I must be musical! I've got loads of CDs."
- Fran Katzenjammer, "Black Books"
What are lit thoughts of this?
>>7841380
shit don quixote rip off
>>7841380
It's bloody fantastic, is what.
It's one of those texts that remind you that every innovative and challenging development in the contemporary novel (thinking of pomo challenges to the form) was already done in the 18th century.
Have you read it? If you're considering it, just start it. It's not the sort of novel that you read cover to cover, but that you read for a while, then return to later. It was written in instalments (as they were then), so it makes sense to read it in chunks.
legitimately difficult to read unlike stuff like GR that's memed as difficult
Hey guys/gals, I'm reading the road for school and I was wondering if I could get some input from this line: "How does the never to be differ from what never was?" I'm wondering what is your interpretation on it because I'm dumbfounded, all opinions are welcome thanks!
>>7841377
read it like never-to-be
how is the potential [thing] different from the [thing] which never reached its potential?
>>7841377
Determinism vs Determined
For real though, you know utilitarianism is actually right and BNW is a utopia, right?
>hey it's this again!
BNW *is* a utopia. So is More's Utopia. So is the fucking Matrix.
>utopia/dystopia dichotomy
>not a red herring
Welcome to /lit/, reader.
If they'd just let me read it would be perfect desu
Who are you, or anyone, to judge what is utilitarian for me, or anyone but them/yourself?
Hey guys. Is there still a point these days to read The Old Testament? I've been reading the KJB recently not so much as in an attempt to convert as in a search for a literary experience/because it's an important work to understand the western canon. Because Christianity relies mostly on the New Testament, is the OT as important or has it degenerated more or less solely into a source of prose?
yes, it's still important. it's not necessary to becoming a christian, but a lot of it is super interesting. If you really are interested in being a Christian you might be interested in learning about the history and struggles of God's people.
>>7841384
>BEING CHRISTIAN
>NOT READING THE BIBLE IN ENTIRETY
>is there any point to reading job, psalms, proverbs, ecclesiastics, etc. etc. etc.
http://strawpoll.me/7158832
Also, favorite characters?
Why do all the book titles start with "A"
How lazy.
>>7841287
it's santa's way of not being too assertive
My fav character is Jon Snow because IMO his chapters are the least boring, also Tyrion.
I've only read the first book, and I'm half way through the second.
>People tell me books are a superior medium to films and video games
>Decide to read this
>It's complete shit
Fuck you bookfags. I'll NEVER read another book again.
>>7841248
2/10 you made me respond, memelord.
>>7841251
Lol are you actually defending this shithouse book?
>LE WHO IS LE JOHN GALT FACE
>>7841253
And who was that m8?
These replicant mimetic creatures are almost undetectable. – “Thanatos mimics the anthropomorphic desiring-cycle — anticipating, enveloping, and simulating it — but it is on its way somewhere else. Because thanatropic replicants are dissimulated as erotic reproducers, they initially appear as traitors to their species, especially when the shamanic xenopulsions programming their sexuality are detected. Nothing panics the reproducers more traumatically than the discovery that erotic contact camouflages cyberrevolutionary infiltration, running matrix communications channels across interlocked skin sectors.” (Machinic Desire, p. 7) – Nick Land
As we become One with our Other. As Man melds with machine to become cyborg—as man merges with animal/insect to become something anthropomorphic (think Kafka’s Metamorphosis or Beatrix Potter)—and as these anthropomorphic cyborgs meld with Others like themselves, we become more immanent and holistic in perspective, a disORGANized Deleuzian system where we are becoming Animal.
The question is: Did D&G, in their philosophy, predict the future coming of Furry culture? Is the Furry culture the Becoming-Animal?
>>7841225
It was just a generation of children confused by disney.
you absolute memelord.
Mmmmm... No. I don't think so. I'm trying to think of an example, but to start, consider how every major culture in the world has stories (dating millenia B.C.) about people becoming animals, and vice versa.
Yet the objective relationships between animals have been applied to certain subjective relations between man and animal, from the standpoint of a collective imagination or a faculty of social understanding… The animal is inseparable from a series exhibiting the double aspect of progression-regression, in which each term plays the role of a possible transformer of the libido (metamorphosis). – Deleuze & Guattari, A Thousand Plateaus
Furry sex?
