What the FUCK is this?
Either a book, novel, volume, or litérature
>>7636611
Nice shit thread, faggot
Hi. I'm not sure why this thread got deleted by a mod, but I really want a serious discussion
Is everything that is important already been said? How can a writer write something nontrivial?
the internet is still fresh.
the world is changing.
literature is changing.
>>7635778
>Is everything that is important already been said?
Yes. Now on to the next thread
>>7635803
thats too easy to say. i want specifics
I need a less than 400 page novel that will help me to reaffirm that life is worth living. What do you got for me?
>>7635588
Read (or watch) The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell
>>7635582
The picture of Dorian Grey
"That's an interesting character"
Blank Space
https://youtu.be/p1Zt47V3pPw
...an approach to fashion design that seeks to create ''fashion without clothing,''...
>>7635523
>Nice 23
Out of the Woods
https://youtu.be/JLf9q36UsBk
The phrase "23 skidoo" was popular in the 1920s; it means "it's time to get out while the getting is good."
In movies and video games you sometimes see sword throws, and while it may seem silly at first glance, it's not a new idea. However, the medieval Italian fencing master Fiore dei Liberi in the early 15th century mentions this tactic, although he himself does not seem to favor it.
How many books have you completed this year?
What is your target? Do you think you'll hit it?
So far I'm 12/50, which I think i might increase to at least 75..
I've only read No Country for Old Men and The Edible Woman this year.
I don't know, I feel like if you've read 12 books in 28 days... with literature you get out what you put in, I think.
>>7635455
Keep in mind 3 of those are graphic novels, 1 is poetry and 5 are under 220 pages...
I work a dead quiet office job, and spend 90% of the day reading. What can I say?
>>7635426
Im at 4/25 thinking about increasing to 30 or 35.
Is it pretentious to read literature?
>>7635421
Depends on why you're doing it.
>>7635433
perfect answer
up to whose opinion we are talking about
I just finished reading this and I'm wondering the role of the Gods in the story.
From what I've gathered: The existence of Gods in the story is questionable, even in the context of the mystical universe of the Iliad.
The Gods always take the form of someone else, and the characters make assumptions: "You're identical to someone I know, but surely it must be a God in disguise". I can accept that a God could take the aspect of someone else, but in the same way it's also possible, and it's a much simpler explanation, that it really is the person that is talking to them, and not any God. Homer, however, insists that it really was a God.
Another way Gods manifest themselves is to help a warrior in battle. They are always invisible, but Homer swears they are there, whenever a warrior goes on a killing spree or performs one amazing feat. Isn't it much more likely that the warrior was simply "having a good day" or was particularly excited at that moment?
Even though Homer is always talking about the Gods, what they are doing in Mt. Olympus, and how they are the cause of pretty much everything, the way some passages are written makes me feel like Homer didn't buy any of that and in a certain way was criticizing the naivete of the Greeks and their religion.
Is this ambiguity intentional and I'm dumb for taking so long to get it, or am I overthinking this and Homer was just writing some good ol' fiction with some good ol' Gods screwing everyone over?
I'm slightly talking out of my ass, but I'd wager the Gods (who treat the war as a game) represent how men are merely toys of fate.
But no, Homer didn't do some postmodern "IT WAS ALL IN THEIR IMAGINATION" shit imo.
>>7635179
Its a fictional tale based on an allegedly real battle, even to Homer.
The Greeks did believe the gods existed and interacted with people in that way.
You are looking at it with too modern of a perspective.
Your sense of "God(s)" is not greek enough.
To the greeks they are not the transcendent beyond.
What are you reading today?
just finished heart of darkness. starting to read notes from underground.
Gonna try to finish The Dalkey Archive by Flann O'Brien today.
>>7634409
Snopes
>gods
What was the point? What were they even doing there? The narrative would be improved a thousandfold without literal deus ex machinas out of the ass and muh ALL ACCORDING TO KEIKAKU Zeus bullshittery
Why did Homer use them at all?
Think of them as similar to a greek chorus. They mirror the action of the central plot using a different set of metaphors and give it another dramatic layer using the relationships between the characters.
Just don't it too literally, man. This is literature.
>>7634086
There was some awful fucking movie with a big star studded cast that tried to do this.
Turns out the idea is shit.
>what cut you looking for fa.m?
>OP: Just pleb my shit up
Post you'res
can i get the original/template?
>>7632920
Hmm read 36. Will maybe one day read most, excluding ameritrash high school novels.
What do you guys think of Kafka's shorter works, like Meditation and In the Penal Colony? I think the latter is almost as good, if not better than Metamorphosis.
>>7632870
>In the Penal Colony
nightmares for days m8
Like Salinger, Kafka shines in his shorter works.
>that colorization
umm... why are we ignoring that Kafka was black?
Write what's on your mind
The quality of this board has gone down the fucking drain.
>>7632546
Vamo Chile argento cagon!!
>>7632546
I'm wondering if I should stop drinking even if it helps me write.
Is ruining my life for the sake of my own mediocre poetry worth it?
I don't know. I wish I did. But I like drinking, and I like writing, so I guess I'm taking this route all the way to AA.
Post handsome authors.
>>7632733
Holy shit I have the exact same nose chin and mouth
>>7632747
You would be in luck he wasn't ugly as fuck.
Last one is bloated and stinks. Let's haul it out and make a new one!
Don't you dare poop-and-scoot, if you're posting your work you're also critiquing others.
Anything worth while here? I've been cycling through a few different ideas for starting a novel taking place in SF:
Here lie the South San Francisco letters sprawled out flat on the hill like some pitiful response to Hollywood, an attempt from the city to frame itself as anything other than a background noise that creeps behind the consciousness of The Bay. The South City is a place for large short buildings that sell tiles or make tires, all sorts of beige in their paints all across the antiscenic views from the roads that cut past it, these roads holding up drivers heading towards cities with more promise and interest. San Francisco provides hills and skyscrapers and great trees and towering landmarks and colossal lobes of fog looming miles in the air and the city plays fully in the third dimension, while the city a ways below sprawls stale and flat across the plain it sprouted on and the plain it spread across and the plain it blankets now.
>>7630067
>large short buildings
a strange expression for my taste
>background noise that creeps behind the consciousness of The Bay
Background noise is always behind so 'that creeps behind' can be edited out.
>antiscenic
i'd rather describe it differently if it's that important
>the city plays fully in the third dimension,while the city a ways below
..how many cities are there?
i don't understand this. I like what precedes it. I don't like the dimensional description.
>sprawl
you like this word a lot. Me not so much when used twice in 5 lines.
Now, I want to know how old you are?
>>7630154
It may help to know that South San Francisco is actually a separate city, then again plenty of SF locals I've met haven't even known it exists.
alright senpai. this book has been around for a while now and i still haven't picked it up. which of his stories do you recommend?
>is he even worth reading?
Not really.
