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>be in university
>enjoy /lit/ discussion
>come to /lit/ every day
>get to grad school
>finally start to reach levels of real expertise and higher understanding in the humanities
>knowledge of literature, philosophy, and history finally starts to get reasonably comprehensive
>suddenly realize all the conversation on this board is uniformly plebeian third year undergrad tier
>suddenly realize not a single thread's level of discourse ever rises above "vaguely familiar with the topic at hand"
>suddenly realize this entire board is just catharsis for undergraduates who can't be too pretentious at university because they'll get slapped down by more knowledgeable people so they have to do it here
>suddenly realize this is an entire board filled with dabblers who are sorta earnestly interested in talking about stuff like literary postmodernism, but too lazy to put the time in and actually go read about it
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a) duhhhhhh

b) is the intention of this post to make us mock for taking five years to figure that out

c) how does it make u feel to realize that
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>>7393727
Second prize is a set of steak knives
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>>7393714
And it took you how many years to figure this out, big boy?

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This got extremely depressing towards the end.
I wanted H. Humbert and Lo to live happily ever after.


Life is not fair.
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>read book expecting ambivalent psychological profile of a pervert
>discover tale about a patrician who boinks underage girls
>tfw you will never be patrician OR boink underage girls
>tfw Lolita gives you the greatest literary feel of all
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>>7393681
Humbert was kinda Fedora to be quite honest with you lads
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>>7393681
He was a sick fuck man.

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Post your favorite international covers.
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>>7393550
>Cornella
>it's actually the real cover
LOL

Pic related...
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>>7393597
... was apparently used as a japanese cover for The Stars My Destination. I like it because it's not only over the top, but has nothing to do with the book.
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>>7393550
damn non-anglos staying ahead of the game

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>People ask me; why are you for death penalty - because Sam Harris is still alive.

What did he mean by this?
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>Sam Harris
>books: Islam and the future of tolerance
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>>7392159
Have you read it?
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>>7392160
>who advocates fo torture
People who say this are the ones being intellectually dishonest. He never said that any state should adopt torture as a legitimate practice

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How do I write dialogue for black characters?
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You write them as being raised by white middle class parents in a middle class town, so the dialogue is the exact same as everyone else.
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>>7392125
'Like dis, nigga.' Watermelondrea said. 'You be tryna do some blackface shit, mmm not around here, nigga.'

Anon trembled and mumbled.
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it depends if he is ghetto or a fine negro gentleman

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Are you living the literary life yet?
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yep

i wish i werent
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I spend most of my time trying, and failing, to read.
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>try to act like intellectual
>finish reading a book every 2 months
>write about a paragraph a month

I think I'm good

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The best and worst books you've ever read. I'll start:

>Best
Infinite Jest

>Worst
The Broom of the System
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>>7390880
>Best
Bible

>Worst
Quran
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>>7390924
Rofl just rofl memed hard anal fellow /a/non
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>>7390880
infinite jest (that means t o p k e k)

>runs a weekly podcasts for years just to whine about millenials

Are his books like this, too?
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Nah his books were mostly written before he became mostly irrelevant. I like his podcast a lot though even if he is an egomaniacal douche. Yes right about PC culture for the most part.
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>be millenial
>know not to use twitter to contact coke dealer
there's nothing wrong with being a millenial
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>>7390039
...gotta admit tho, millennials are pretty unbearable. So far we've given the world SJWs, shitty vines, pewdiepie, and tao lin.

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On what basis does Stirner proclaim that the only valid motivation is individualistic?

Isn't individual liberation a spook too?
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>>7388880
The physical self is not a spook
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>>7388880
Liberation from what?
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>>7388880
Because your individual motivation is not external to you like spooks are. Compare this concept to things like right/wrong

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Would anyone be down to read one of the dialogues together? Republic and Laws would probably be hard to do without losing a lot of steam quickly, but maybe one of the shorter ones, like Meno?
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i would be up for the Phaedrus
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Plato, Socrates, and the Dialogues

Professor Michael Sugrue of Princeton University brings the Socratic quest for truth alive in these lectures, which discuss ideas that are as vital today as they were 25 centuries ago

Ideas that can change lives and reveal the world in new ways to the true student

About Your Professor
Michael Sugrue, Ph.D.

Dr. Michael Sugrue is Professor of History at Ave Maria University. A graduate of the Great Books Program, he earned his B.A. in History from the University of Chicago and his M.A., M.Phil., and Ph.D. in History from Columbia University. Prior to taking his position at Ave Maria University, Professor Sugrue taught at Princeton University, the City College of New York, Columbia University, Manhattan College, New York
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I started reading Cratylus a month ago but I haven't gotten round to reading it. I want to read it, but I've got stressy shite gon' on and I haven't found the time for old P.

That ramble aside, I'd be glad to make inane speculations and shit post in the Plato discussion threads. Start with Euthyphro, that ones nice.

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How's that novel of yours going, anon?
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Great, thanks for asking. How's yours?
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I-I'll get started soon, I swear!
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>>7386757
Great, anon. Keep going. 52k words this week here. Planning to reach 70-75k until December.

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I've barely read any Australian stuff apart from Wake in Fright which I enjoyed. Anyway, looking for recommendations. Is Cloud Street as good as everyone seems to say it is? People really get their dicks hard over that one.
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I find that when a protagonist shares your nationality it just adds another level with which you can relate to them, and thus I think I have a kind of default appreciation for Australian film and literature that I don't have for American shit.
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>>7384096

I got wake in fright recently, glad you like it. Monkey Grip and postcards from surfers by Helen Garner are good. Death in Brunswick by Boyd Oxlade is dope too. Good poets include John Forbes, Chris Wallaace crabbe, Thomas w Shapcott. Good contmporary short fiction writer is Tony Birch

Those collections 'best australian stories/poetry' are really good too.

I havent read cloud street, is that Tim Winton. Omly books by him I've read were those childrens books about the footballer, they were sick tho
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The Shiralee was fun, a less harrowing The Road with more fights

And then there's the classic On The Beach, which feels very British

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We discuss the philosopher Emmanuel Levinas and his major work "Totality and Infinity: an Essay on Exteriority". What does /lit/ think of it?
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>>7382158
It's shit.
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>>7382161
why?
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>>7382158
I love this book. I try to start Levinas' threads from time to time but they quickly fade into oblivion each time...
The main point that pleases me in Levinas' work is the phenomenological stance. Of course it's not "only" phenomenological, but this is not so frequent to see someone who is not strictly normative about ethics. I know that he is ALSO normative and that a pure descriptivity doesn't exist. I quote him from memory, but I think it's in "Ethics and Infinity" that he said "I'm not here to say what morality should be, but what it is if that may appears". The point about the appearing of the face is very important to me, if there's no face, then there's no obligation (that's what I mean by "realistic" ethics). He doesn't try to force ethics, but simply to know what's happening ("that it is the highest importance to know whether we are not duped by morality")

I also find him to be very useful in anthropology, once again for "face's appearing" in "subjectivation" (I don't really know the English name for that, sorry) problematics. The way he put ontology AFTER ethics is very much in reasoning with the anthropological care about the question of the alter.

I also really like the way he approaches texts. It is with him and Derrida that I began to really interest myself into what a text could mean, with all these interpretation levels and so on. Sadly, I couldn't really elaborate in this in English as I'm not fluent enough.

The two main problems I meet in Totality and Infinity are : 1. Levinas' stance about men/women, which even if I don't "stick" to the literalness of the text gets quite old from its phallocentrism preconceptions ; 2. the question of an animal face, which is not addressed by Levinas. This "un-addressing" is quite addressed by Derrida, nonetheless.

I once talked here with someone who had a very Levinassian discourse without having read a single line from him. I remember he told me he came into this positioning from beat generation literature, that was pretty surprising

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DO NOT CRITIQUE THOSE WHO DIDN'T CRITIQUE OTHERS

I know these always go in the toilet, but... Let's try again.

Post an excerpt in a www.pastebin.com page and write your critique to who you're responding to in the 4chan reply.
Let's all try to make this as simple and helpful as possible.
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http://pastebin.com/VSxU3Htu

I'll be around for a while longer. I can review and critique.
Pls
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>>7382213
>DO NOT CRITIQUE THOSE WHO DIDN'T CRITIQUE OTHERS
You haven't critiqued anyone, disregarded.
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>>7382227
Good point. Thank you lawyer-san.

Hey pleb, what books are you reading? I bet it's something only a pleb would read.
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>>7377431
Hamlet
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>>7377431
Who /school of resentment/ here?
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blood meridian

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