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He /lit/, I want to get into Chaucer, and other anons here have recommended the Riverside edition.
Is this edition in Middle English? I'd appreciate if any anon who owns it could take some pictures to random pages, and perhaps to the Notes section, because Amazon's preview doesn't get to that part.
>>7615780
I don't have it, but I've flipped through that edition in a bookstore once and it's in Middle English with a good deal (but not an overwhelming amount) of footnotes to help you.
It is in Middle English
What are some good comfy book like Typhoon ?
Sailing Alone Around the World, Joshua Slocum
Mardi, Herman Melville
Ok thanks anon
Can we have a translations thread?
What's the best translation of Theogony and Works and Days or Aeschylus in general?
Just get the Oxford World Classics for Hesiod.
I'm reading the OUP edition of The Iliad (translated by Fitzgerald), and I decided to order the OUP Odyssey, assuming it would be the same translation, but it's Shewring's prose translation. Should I read it or return it? And why aren't OUP consistent here?
OUP=\=OWC
>>7615678
OWC are published by OUP.
FYI Vintage Classics has the Fitzgerald Odyssey.
What is a good encyclopaedia of Art/Literature movements? Preferably online.
Stanford Encyclopedia
>>7615671
That's good for Philosophy, but I mean movements such as Romanticism and Surrealism.
>>7615676
Wikipedia
>and then he said he prefers a literal translation over an artistic one
How are these mutually exclusive, exactly? The King James Version is one of the most autistically literal translations of the Bible, and it is also the most artistic.
Hi Lit
I am a complete /lit noob.
What are the first 50 books I should read?
To put it into perspective, I just finished reading 1984. I have just begun dracula.
I am reading on the bus when I go to and fro work.
I read lord of the flies & brave new world in school, so no need for those ones.
Beyond these, I haven't literally read nothing.
So give me your most basic 50-100 books to give me a decent base to work with!
>>7615572
Good on you friend! This is a decent list http://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/oct/12/features.fiction Basically just read the ones you've heard of first, then come back her when you want advice for more.
You have to show that numbers mean something to you when you can finish something, not much different from eating at a buffet.
>>7615581
thanks! this looks like a good starting point.
desu i feel like my mind is fucking pleb tier since i haven't read anything
What non-literary book did you admire a lot for its page-turning qualities, ones that best evoke the feeling of mystery, thrill and suspense.
My personal favourites were Forsyth's Day of the Jackal (about an assasin) and Clancy's Hunt for Red October (techno-thriller about Soviet submarine defecting). The problem is these are from the pre-internet era when people had longer attention spans and had to read novels in flights, trains, lonely evening when there was nothing to watch on tv, etc. So I am looking for something more contemporary.
My purpose...
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James Patterson
Sebastian Faulks. Read Birdsong.
>Thank you for sending me a query letter describing your work. After careful evaluation, I have decided that I am not the right agent to represent your work. I can only properly represent materials that greatly excite or interest me. Since this is such a subjective business, I am sure another agent will feel quite differently about your work.
>I wish you the best of luck finding representation with the right agent and good fortune with your writing career.
Goddamnit....this is about my 15th one of this,...
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Guess that "homage to Finnegans wake" didn't pan out did it
>>7615376
Not even close to anything finnegans wake related. Actually it's probably more commercial fiction than anything.
How many dick pics did you include in your query letter?
In fear of not being taken seriously here,
is the point at the end of text messages a thing of the past - I feel it's actually discouraged and considered impolite
>>7615355
The point, you mean punctuation?
>>7615355
Use it to fuck with minds. Punctuation is superior.
You may look like a cold, boring person on a couple of messages but people get used to it rather quickly.
Why can't i find any work of Edgar Julius Jung on digital format?
Because his his main work was translated by Alexander Jacob for a small press and costs like 150 dollars for each volume. I believe he has a few essays in the Weimar Republic Sourcebook. Additionally there is an unpublished phd by some guy who did a study about him floating around on the net if you can find it.
Written too late for public domain, too early and too niche for commercial ebooks
I'm trying to read stuff that is genuinely independent of my culture. What suggestions do you guys have?
So far, I've read the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the collected writings of Han Fei Zi, and the Analects.
>My Reasoning
Even though many of them avoid admitting this, most modern intellectual movements have Christian roots. At least partially. Christianity is a fusion of Roman Law, Hebrew Religion and Greek Philosophy. So I should read books that are older than Yahweh and Plato, or who were isolated from Yahweh and Plato.
Egypt was linked to Greece.
And many Eastern ideas have been transmitted to out culture already.
>>7615199
Point taken. But the connection of
Ancient Egyptian religion -> Greek Philosophy -> Modern Culture
is pretty weak.
>Eastern ideas have been transmitted to out culture
Confucius didn't make it to the West until about 1600. So he's independent of the Westprior to 1600, but not the modern West. So long as I contrast him with Western ideas that existed before 1600, he is genuinely independent.
Zhuangzi, Bhagavad Gita, Gilgamesh
ITT: books you loved as a kid (and still enjoy now) and why you liked them.
No one cares about your young adult shit. Read real books.
>>7615136
bump
>>7615158
bumpedy bump
What does /lit/ have checked out from a library at this very moment?
Manhattan Transfer (novel)
Marching Men (novel)
Ever Wonder Why (collection of political editorials)
Far China Station (history, US navy 1800-1898)
Handbook of Grades and Grading
Handbook of Tests and Assignments
> tfw live across from library but still manage to rack up $60 in fines
send help
>>7614998
>library
y tho
Can we talk about remorse in literature? I Think Judas is the most poignant example of remorse from ancient literature, perhaps the first true example of remorse as opposed to mere regret. Orestes is the closest example to remorse in pre-Christian pagan literature, but his quest is not for forgiveness, but for acquittal, so it's fundamentally different for, say, someone like Raskolnikov.
Orthodox reading list and FAQ's for liberals, Protestants, atheists and so on, for those so inclined: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
>>7614315
Poor Judas...Do you think he went to heaven?
He did feel remorse...
>>7614885
No, I don't
See A6 of the Atheist FAQ: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
>>7614885
I'm not a christian but I think it would sound pretty out of character for Jesus if he did not take pity upon Judas.
just my opinion though tomodachi
