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What are the famous whores/sluts/homewreckers of literature?
>extra points for whores who make the protag's life miserable with their deception
>>8200129
lux Lisbon
Do underage whores count?
If so, Tanizaki's Naomi
>>8200148
Possibly one of the greatest plays, if not the greatest play, of the 20th century.
Consider this: Samuel Beckett told Sir Ralph Richardson that if he had meant God by Godot, he would have said God and not Godot. He then takes the time to tell us that Sir Ralph Richardson seemed "disappointed by this".
Is this another master ruse by a master absurdist ruseman? Was he bringing the disappointment of the play into our reality?
>>8199971
I don't know man. What do you think?
Better novelist than playwright desu
>>8199971
Godot was a McGuffin
Borrowing a mildly successful thread idea from /mu/
Short Story Edition
>Best
The Dead
>Worst
A Mother
>Overrated
Araby
>Underrated
An Encounter
post your favorite short story collection, call me names, etc
>Best
Whoever Was Using This Bed
>Worst
Intimacy
>Overrated
Boxes
>Underrated
Errand
>>8199929
Incidentally I've just bought Dubliners on Amazon, should receive in a few days. Never read Joyce before
>>8199929
you're overrated. Araby is so communicative and great, especially the ending. (I agree about the rest though)
>>8199929
Is dubliners a good entry point to start reading Joyce or should I read portrait of a young artist first?
Just marathoned the first three chapters. When will it get good ?
>>8199752
Never.
>>8199752
>shitposting on /lit/
There're greener pastures anon.
He's slightly less irritating in the end. Just power through for the sake of having read it.
Dude living was never for me, I literally feel sometimes that I am living purely out of spite for the universe, and that ever action is a sort of ironic defiance to sort of say fuck you to the universe. But you know how that leaves me feeling? It leaves me feeling incredibly scared when I have to be around people like when I was walking around outside yesterday, because you know why? When you have these sorts of thoughts in your head, it sort of makes you feel guilty. I feel afraid of when people look at me because I'm afraid that they'll figure out sooner or later that I'm just a fake husk of a human being and they would probably hate me for it anyways. Idk if that's because it's incredibly difficult to really communicate with people, like you know how when a person actually understands you, you can feel like the understand you even though you may not even be making sense to yourself, but they understand you because they understand your idiosyncrasies? Yeah you're not going to find people like that very much in the world, and yeah I know that my fear is irrational, but really I sort of dread interacting with other people for that reason, it's sort of like I have this deep, burning pessimism of other people and it never goes away and it really does feel like just about everything gives me an existential nightmare. The deep crushing pointlessness of existence is, I believe, not something that an animal mind was ever prepared to take on, it's nothing that I can overcome with even the heaviest of philosophical musing. It simply will not fucking go away, the pointlessness of absolutely everything, the deep burning pessimism, and it makes me fucking angry.
Epic yarn, Kirby.
I was walking around outside for a couple hours though, idk who I'm supposed to talk to. I don't know what to do for a job and no one is helping me, I can't stand doing school because it's too stressful and boring and I can barely function well enough to sit through class and get assignments done, because I just don't have the will power to do stuff that I feel is totally pointless and boring. I feel like the only way that I will get to have some friends is if I get a job, but I've had two part time jobs before, they were terrible and I am not looking forward to my next one. I don't know how getting a job is supposed to set me up with social connections.
I wonder what my life would be like without the internet. I wonder if I would have found a bunch of weird loner outsider guys and girls like myself who just live on the edge of society, maybe we would be making artwork with each other, or maybe I would be the same person that I am today except without the internet, doing some hobby like drawing and reading books and listening to my minuscule collection of music that I bought. I don't know, I just wish that there was some element of adventure in my life. It feels like you really don't get any options besides a beaten path, there hardly seems to be anything fun that doesn't require a reservation, a travel plan, but then again I hate mindless "adventure". I hate being in lonely random boring places because it makes my feeling of existentialism feel exponentially worse.
I dunno what to do with my life, but I wish that I could talk to other people. I wonder almost if I see that as a sort of fix and it's a false god, it won't really fix my problems, I wonder if that's actually the case. Because to be honest I have been searching for a reason to be happy, but it's so illusive. Every time I am happy I just forget later why I was happy and I go back to feeling sad. It's a very bizarre and abstract thing, wonder what makes me happy.
Friends. I don't even know what friendship is. I have some friends online and they're interesting people, but to be honest I never really message anyone. I don't really even feel like talking to anyone, because I always feel that when you talk with other people you have to avoid a lot of things that are on your mind. When you avoid people, are you really doing much different from when you're just talking to them? It's like a little game of hide and seek, except you're never supposed to actually find each other, that is the way that I look at interactions with other people. I have always been a very awkward person, I think that people get very put off by me, even though I'm sufficiently self aware to not make people put off by me. I think that I often come on very strong to people, not in a sexual way, but in a way that makes them feel like I am probing too deep, and they want to back off because they're not willing to put up with me. Because ultimately to put up with another person intimately, is to grapple with their inner selves. This can lead to conflict.
It's weird to me to think about sex. I have never been a person that has felt comfortable when people come onto me, or felt comfortable coming onto other people. It feels so fake to me, it feels like it could be a ritual undertaken by only someone who experiences and feels the same things as me on an almost telepathic level, for me to give full vulnerability to someone else like that. I couldn't imagine it, yet it's something that people do around me all the time, it makes me wonder who is really the empty husk of a human being. In order to be happy, I'm sure that you really just have to not think about the absurdity of the world around you and really have no passion for life at all. That is why you see so many people of our world the way they are, that is why there are so many human beings, because who else makes other people and has sex but people who fuck. It's the people who fuck who've inherited the earth. And as if by some ancient hidden secret code, the genetics of someone like me appear out of pure misfortune.
Recommendations
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
Previous: >>8192694
First for there being nothing wrong with talking about old books without constantly, defensively mentioning that you also like new books.
I know it's >YA but anyone here read Cinder / Lunar Chronicles series? It kind of looks interesting, premise wise.
And I guess just throw some books at me with interesting, non-standard premises.
>>8199604
I have yet to read modern fantasy that wasn't written by an established author that wasn't trash or extremely mediocre at best.
Science fiction unlike fantasy had decent titles. Not sure what makes fantasy worse in comparison, or rather more attractive to hordes of nerds and feminists.
> Reading books with a glass of wine
Do people outside of try-hards who want to look oh-so-sophisticated actually, unironically do this? This has to be a meme.
if guys are in their 20s doing this then they are probably pseuds
especially if they are doing this at a restaurant or pub
>>8199026
Only women reading stephen king are doing it.
>>8199026
A lot of women like wine, so them doing it is probably no big deal. A guy doing it raises questions. Especially if in public. If they're alone doing it, I guess who gives a shit?
Let's play the "I've never seen that posted in lit before but it's amazing" game
I'll start with pic related
Mars by Fritz Zorn
I've never seen it mentioned which is odd because it seems especially "lit"
I've actually seen it once or twice though. It's nyrb, not exactly hidden.
No one talks about how great Maurice Merleau-Ponty is except for me.
Post things that you like that aren't books, and c/lit/s post books that you would like based on that.
I'll start:
>Twin Peaks
Pretty much all of Bergman's filmography. Persona and Cries & Whispers in particular
You might like the works of Paul Auster.
Hunter x Hunter
Zootopia
Starting a novel is one thing, but continuing to write it is another. Let's see the first sentence of your second chapter. I'll go first.
Nine in the morning like three bowling pins knocked down by a thunderous God leaving the remaining nine for the great unwashed to aim for to pick up the spare to pick up the toasted french pastries that papa and I prepare every morning spared a morning of empty bellies as they go about their business in businesses or with business partners on their busy days of byzantine barbiturate fueled mock battles while papa has been here since last night painting today's specials on both the glass windows and floors and I have been prepping for that same amount of time drenching bread in time stream harvested pterodactyl egg yolk while speaking french incantations from a long forgotten grimoire recovered from the tomb of Maximilien François Marie Isidore de Robespierre but the missing piece of this triumvirate of breakfast fast but not cheap food lords is missing and without that missing piece there will be no one to man the cash register and we will be ruined for the morning rush and we may die.
Dulcet came the summer sun out of the clear blue sky.
Shuffling is one of the few mechanical skills I’ve acquired.
>>8198191
Brilliant, if I do say so myself.
>>8198205
I had to look up 'dulcet', thank you, it is a pretty word, I'm glad I know what it means.
>>8198217
I like this. It's a bit humorous, and makes you wonder about the explanation that is to come.
is this the best version of the hadiths?
>>8197881
Yes. Sahih Bukhari is goat, but it is not a version inasmuch as a collection of Ahaadiith.
>>8197909
yea that
>>8197881
Unless you are reading them to BTFO Muslims into becoming Quranists and/or full-time-sufi, I'll be mad.
ITT: Books that improved your life. I'll start.
On the run by jack kerouac
Solaris - Stanislaw Lem
DOGBOYS: A Farce in Two Acts
![J4X8BsWDr3sgjRUIxR36DmoW9jChMBwdnhCzptOB04vKJrGBDBWZkxX9ItLC8NZo_large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kWbz2DH.jpg "J4X8BsWDr3sgjRUIxR36DmoW9jChMBwdnhCzptOB04vKJrGBDBWZkxX9ItLC8NZo large[1]")
>my name is Clifford Le Sergeant
>take sip of coffee
>swirl glass of wine in hand in front of camera
>I just read this book
>better than food
>contemplatively stare into the distance in silence
>'wow'
>dude sex lmao
>majored in film
Does /lit/ really like this pretentious fuck?
>>8197570
Also, to showcase:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLbxtAr8E2U
I like that he got himself steralised.
>>8197576
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
Hello /lit/. What is the required reading in order to fully appreciate and understand Metamorphoses? I am worried I may not have long to enjoy it, your kind consideration is most appreciated.
Read the things that treat the myths in it, like the Iliad.
>>8196898
Thank you for your quick response. I currently own an unread copy I've been delaying to engage in.
>>8196892
Metamorphoses is the genesis of all Western literature, along with The Bible.
Read both of those and you'll be pretty much good to tackle anything up through the 1800's.
>itt fuck up classic lines
I'll start
to be or not be, that is my question.
>>8196691
im a writer
ay, that's the rub of it
>>8196697
I don't get it.
