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Why the fuck did you make me read this?
>>8211790
lmao that fucking cover
Because I'm your senior English teacher. Don't forget the paper for tomorrow.
I didn't make you do shit you stupid little faggot.
Today I'm packing my bags because I'm going to Greece, alone, on a voyage of wonderment and intense discovery. It is the start of something new for me, so I'm pretty stoked. I've maxxed out my kindle with great Greek literature to read on the plane, so that's good to go. Lately I've been reading Plato and really, really getting into it, his cave story made me think on a whole other level so I've been thinking, where is the cave actually located? There's literally no mention in the brochure and I'd love to see it while I'm there! Thanks anon
>>8211722
Tfw I wish I was intellectual enough to actually enjoy traveling. But after a while I always end up in some weird limbo of ambivalence.
And now I wonder: can I even afford to travel? I rather hike from now on. Maybe with a gf I could share that experience better, but I cannot derive pleasure from it.
>>8211722
I wish I could travel like Kerouac in "The Dharma Bums", but I have no friends who would like to do that.
>>8211722
you're already in the cave, because there is no chance of enlightenment for a pleb like you anon
t. future philosopher king patrician
Could someone please explain to me what my English teacher means by this:
"The writer must establish a clearly defined set of standards/criteria/expectations to measure the quality or effectiveness of that topic."
This one point is preventing me from finishing an otherwise simple assignment. To clarify, my topic is anti-consumerism.
I know this is 4chan and we're all a bunch of assholes, but I'm desperate. No one has been able to help me. My paper is due in two hours.
>inb4 underage
I'm in college
>You procrastinated. It's your own fault.
I know that. Still, I would greatly appreciate your help.
I apologize if I am on the wrong board. I wasn't sure where else to go.
the sentence makes no sense. the effectivenes of the topic to do what?
>>8211716
That's what I'm saying. I'm glad I'm not alone. I thought I was going crazy.
I don't understand what she wants me to do.
>>8211706
Basically what it's saying is that the writer needs to establish a set of norms for the poem -- that is, a baseline -- that can then be used as commentary on a particular topic by looking at how the representation of the topic conforms to or differs from that established norm.
I'm halfway through Moby-Dick and holy shit is it good
>A vast pulpy mass, furlongs in length and breadth, of a glancing cream-colour, lay floating on the water, innumerable long arms radiating from its centre, and curling and twisting like a nest of anacondas, as if blindly to clutch at any hapless object within reach. No perceptible face or front did it have; no conceivable token of either sensation or instinct; but undulated there on the billows, and unearthly, formless, chance-like apparition of life.
This is just par for the course on this book.
How did Melville do it?
>>8211604
Lots of interesting life experiences, natural talent and help from Hawthorne
>>8211604
yeah I'll never be as talented as melville anyways so why bother
By reading lots of Shakespeare and Milton, duh
Moby Dick is definitely top ten
The term "matter of Britain" was coined by the medieval poet from Arras called Jean Bodel along with the two other "matters" everyone should know:
Ne sont que III matières à nul homme atandant,
De FRANCE et de BRETAIGNE, et de ROME la grant.
Since Jean Bodel got cursed with leprosy, he clearly wasn't all that right. There is just one that MATTERS of the three and we shall vote on which it is right now:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10597977
Found this amazing anthology at the local thrift store today. Thought it was /lit/ worthy.
Also, recent thrift finds general.
>>8211559
Also came across this masterpiece. Random highlight page coming up.
>>8211561
>"But here was this hound, product of no trial and error process, lacking lust, unhampered by ancestral fears and instincts. And I wondered if in this hound of the hedges were not to be found the apogee of all that life could ever promise. For here were beauty and gentleness and grace; only ferocity and sex and guile were lacking. And I wondered: 'Is this a hint of the goal of life?'"
>Doctor Lao reached in the cage and patted the hound's head. The beast soughed like the murmur of wind in sycamore leaves.
>"What the hell is the Chink talking about?" asked Quarantine Inspector Number One.
If The Samsa family was so poor and in debt, how did they have a servant girl?
Also, Kafka general.
Most people react poorly to times of crises
>be absolutely beta male
>write shit after shit boring story about your boring beta office life and your beta insecurities
>write in your will that you want your shit stories destroyed so the world will never know about your embarrassing works
>""""""""""""""""friend"""""""""""""""" immediately publishes them after your long painful death with tuberculosis
Welp! Poor beta Kafka
Kafkaesque
There's tons of books about how war is bad, but what about books about how war is good? Books that depict war as heroic, noble, or even fun?
The Iliad would be an obvious answer
>>8211427
Hard mode: written after the Vietnam War
>>8211427
Have you read it?
The bible is literature. How much of it is worth reading? Is it any good?
Genesis, first half of Exodus, Kings, Judges, both Samuels, Esther, Job, Ecclesiastes
The Gospels, Romans, Acts, Revelation
>>8211412
>the bible is literature
>>8211416
>no Song of Songs
>Can write good dialogue and have a good understanding of characterisation, plotting and themes
>Can write detailed plans of novels including extensive character notes and detailed plot outlines
>tfw bad prose
Should I just give up now?
>>8211409
If you're seeking advice from elitists, you already know the answer.
>>8211415
Elitists give better advice than sycophants.
The problem is that /lit/ is made up of elitists who for the most part don't read.
>Can write good dialogue and have a good understanding of characterisation
these are your only strengths, from what you've said
>Can write detailed plans of novels including extensive character notes and detailed plot outlines
anyone can
>tfw bad prose
if your dialogue is actually good and not just not-cringey, you have potential. try minimal prose, like Erlend Loe or something. if it's terribly bad and not just bland, try plays instead.
"Go away, little hippy."
Commentary on the dying counterculture movement in the 70's.
>>8211392
That the Joker, an agent of non-teleological chaos, i.e. a hippie, would be superceded by Bane, an agent of a teleological simulacra of chaos.
The story is all about how the freedom loving movement of the 60s was betrayed and exploited and turned into yet another tool of the powerful. "Go away little hippie" because he knows what the detective hasn't quote figured out yet. They lost.
had a dream last nite
>enter dream
>im back at home
>me and my father and lingering people in background
>my father is bringing noam chomsky over for a drink and dinner etc
>apparently theyre friends from college days even though (theyre not)
>noam chomsky comes over
>everybody starts eating and drinking and noam chomsky stares at me for a long while
>finally he starts asking me questions about whatever we were drinking
>cant find anything to ask him and dont really want to
>just waiting for dream to end
>father is just laughing
>all of a sudden dozens of highschool classmates/friends i dont see anymore enter
>chomsky gets lost in the crowd and mixes with my classmates
>get jeered at a little and the room gets very standoffish towards me
>father is off lingering too
>now setting is an unknown unimportant place
>dark
>chomsky is staring at me with that wrinkledface in that one pic of him, unmoving
>while have on eye on chomsky start having conversations with estranged people in my life
>wake up
wtf
wtf
staring picture here
Intense
a quick psychoanalysis reveals you just want ol' noam's cock in your bum, my dear boy
I don't get it.Why was Yash such a slut
because Pynchon padded the novel with his personal erotic writings under the guise of 'maximalism' so he could beat DFW's 1079 page count
Pynchons my fav writer for sure because my fav thing in books is goofs, gags, jokes and rambunctious behavior, and his books are full to the brim of it. Every novel is like one of those novelty snake cans, you open the book & POP you get a face fulla snakes and you fall back cackling. The mad mind, the crack genius, to do it! and then you think hmmm whats he gonna do next, this trickster, and you pick the book back up and BZZZZZZZZZZ you get a shock and Hahahahahah you've been pranked again by the old pynchmeister, that card. "Did that Pynch?" he says, laughing yukyukyukyuk. Watch him as he shoves a pair of plastic buck teeth right up into his mouth and displays em for you- left, right, center- "you like dese? Do i look handsome???" Pulls out a mirror. "Ah!" Hand to naughty mouth. And you're on your ass again laughing as he snaps his suspenders, exits stage right, and appears again hauling a huge golden gong.
>>8211354
I like this pasta
Don't have room to save it anywhere though
I wish Pynchon played VtMB and wrote a book about it.
What are some books about/with the aesthetic of feeling alone, even among company?
Suttree
No Longer Human, it's the entire subject of the novel.
>>8211318
Catcher in the Rye
my diary desu
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