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Why is the Iliad considered so important? Just because it's very old and very long?
like my dick
>>8021106
Because it's pretty much the earliest known work of Western literature
Yep. That's why. Old n long. The extensive field of research behind Greek literature and culture, of which The Iliad is the centerpiece, is more or less entirely focused on explaining just HOW a poem can be SO old and long.
In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
What did he mean by that?
are you retarded
>>8020983
That property shouldn't be private anymore you dumb fuck.
>>8020983
Private propert is different from personal property. Your phone and sextoys are personal property. Theyre yours. You own them the same way you do now.
Private property, in this sense, is the means of production. Factories and whatnot. Marx says people shouldnt own these means of production since opression, imperialism and so on and so on *sniff*. Basically not allowing classes to form.
What are lits favourite Hunter S novel?
I've read Hells Angels, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and The Rum Diary. What else would you recommend?
Was this man important in 20th Century literature introducing 'gonzo' journalism?
Campaign Trail '72
>>8020935
I've only read Fear and Loathing. I got Hell's Angels but haven't read it.
I like his way of storytelling. His way of writing has become much more relevant these days. It seems that you can't bring news without entertainment. Thompson able to provide a scoop with something for reader takeaway other than pure facts.
Well I think I'm just an idiot who doesn't like to read news
>>8020935
Personally read F&L in Las Vegas/On the Campaign Trail, Hell's Angels, the Kentuck Derby and the Curso of Lono.
One of my favourite writers, I've read F&L in Las Vegas about six or seven times, I'm writing an essay about its correlation with Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling, shit's a blast. I recommend you read anything you can get your hands on, more or less everything's available online in pdf format, there's no excuse to avoid getting it if you like his writing.
I think he was maybe one of the first to truly understand the value of (self-conscious) perspectivism in journalism - he certainly was (and remains, as far as I'm concerned) the only one to do justice to the idea - everything after him just isn't on par, when it comes to the beauty of his writing/the depth of his observations. Only one to come close is Joan Didion, and even then, she was much too disaffected to really do the format justice.
I'm looking into reading The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky, but i'm not sure which translation to pick. A lot of people seem to recommend the P&V translation but some prefer the Mcduff version.
Can you help me out /lit/?
Also Russian literature general.
>>8020903
bump
>>8020903
Just read the P&V, don't listen to the /lit/ memes it's a solid effort
I doubt anyone here has read both translations and the Russian version so they can have a valid opinion.
anyone into talking romanian literature or novels that talk about the sole purpose of human soul, that is to transcent into absolute by love ?
Bumping with a classic
>>8020908
that is indeed a classic
>>8020856
bump
So what do you think about my idea for a novel:
I want to adapt Dostoyevsky's "Notes" in a contemporary setting (student, social media etc.etc.). Pynchon is my favorite author so I'd also use a million pop-culture references so that the reddit crowd will approve of it. Sounds like a great idea, doesn't it?
I'll start tomorrow, never have written anything before besides papers for university.
Wish me luck
>>8020686
Whats at stake though anon? What is at stake?!
>>8020686
What is your underground man going to critique? Enlightenment philosophy is long dead. A narrator living out post-modernism could be interesting, but I imagine it'd just be infinite jest.
>>8020706
He will not critique anything. Or, well (wow, I will use that pun in the novel), he will express his desires in the ways the /r9k/-beta wojaks do all the time.
Besides, the underground man was unreliable to an extent where his "philosophy" stopped making sense and contradicted itself every second chapter.
Just finished it. Anybody care to talk about it? As far as the literal events of the book I think I have it mostly figured out, but obviously a lot of what you're supposed to be taking away from it is abstract.
Themes I'm interested in are The Zone, how it sort of represents freedom and chaos, the sexuality of the bomb and what point he's trying to make, the way in which many of the characters derived meaning from the war, like how Slothrop stopped getting erections when the bombs stopped falling, and how Pirate Prentice stopped being able to see others' fantasies when the war ended. Just throwing out fodder for discussion really.
Also, what to read next? I have a plan to read Confederacy of Dunces as a cool down, then Blood Meridian, White Noise, and Lolita, but after some lighter workloads I want to read War and Peace and maybe even some Joyce. How would GR compare in terms of challenge to W&P? Or to Finnegan's Wake or Ulysses?
stop reading memes you terrible fucking pseud
>he literally fell for the meme
>>8020560
Well give me some recs then. Does it make more sense to read some of the most celebrated works that people constantly talk about, or just pick books at random? I'll admit I'm not super well read, but everybody has to start somewhere. I figure the classics are probably the most sensible places to start.
Is there a solution to underground man syndrome or is there no return when you are reflexively attacking of everything and feel there is no viable path outward?
just appreciate life, dude.
>>8020335
isn't this just like saying 'just be happy' it's not like a switch that can be turned on and off
>>8020343
dude just turn your brain off lol
How useful is this as a sampler of the canon?
It is great, and much more interesting than the american one. The lack of realism and the actual amount of fun picaresque/excellent poetic texts in pre 19th century english writing is surprising. I highly recommend it.
>>8020264
Dis
I was required to take early Britlit and late Britlit and the only textbook was all five volumes of this. Learned about loads of authors i knew nothing about
The edition i bought ten years ago came with a cd with recordings of some old english poetry, that was pretty cool.
Do /lit/ ever write love poems for their gf/bf?
Are they good? How does your gf/bf react to them?
I write my gf poetry and recite them to her when i'm drunk, they are usually pretty god damn cringey and she will say so but then give me a kiss after
>>8020116
>gf/bf
>implying
No but my gf leaves handwritten poems in my lunchbox for work pretty often. They're usually childish ones (i.e. ones written for children) but I find them cute and they always brighten up my day.
What are the other themes of Romeo & Juliet besides love and death?
It's too late for you. Work on your chemistry homework instead.
There is no human work of art that isn't about love and/or death.
One of the most important themes of the play is that you should do your own homework.
Have you noticed /lit/ style pretentious struggling on other boards? In other areas art is judged solely for its entertainment value, not some nebulous made up pretentious "literary" (or its equivalent for other artforms) value.
You've obviously never been in a NGE thread newfriend.
>>8020004
>in other areas art is judged soley for its entertainment value
What, retard?
>>8020004
There is no "right" way to judge art, dummy; it all depends on individual tastes, so stop fucking bitching.
Are any of you members of the elite Edgar Allen Poe society?
Also for the Poe fans here, whats your favorite work of Poe's?
my favourite is le raven poem
>>8019960
As someone who only read the Raven in high school, what should I start with?
>>8020001
The Cask of Amontillado, The House of Usher, The Masque of the Red Death,, The Murders in the Rue Morgue, William Wilson and then maybe The Narrative of Gordon Pym of Nantucket. They're pretty short except for the last one.
Murder is wrong because the earth orbits the sub.
>>8019881
Rape is okay because the moon orbits the earth
Is the sub a tuna footlong?
>>8019885
dayum nigga now I want a tuna sub
What's the name of the book from the 1950s/60s/70s about a white man that used sophisticated makeup to "become" a black man for a few months. He works and interacts as this black man for a few months and is the victim of a lot of hate crimes and discrimination. I think it's non-fiction. I feel like the name is close to "the Man Inside me"
Fuck, I found the answer pretty fast from google. The book is "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin, published in 1961
the man with the twisted lip
i dunno but there was a movie called gentlemans agreement where gregory peck, a goy, goes undercover as a jew to experience antisemitism
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