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Nah. We live in the age of scientism. We're fucked lads.

Hegel is literal nonsense for pseudointellectuals. Whenever I hear someone mention Hegel I discard every opinion they've ever had.

>>7999976
Did you just start reading Schopenhauer quotes and built up your philosophical views on those?

>>7997545
>definately
Less time reading about magical dicks and more time on grammar, plebkun

>>7997545
>definately

pynchon fans, everyone

>>7997545
>definately

I don't let spooks run my life for one

What does Nietzsche think about empathy?

Say I had someone I cared about and could easily relieve their situation because it would also make myself less anxious seeing someone I love out of a struggle.

What would the proper Nietzsche way to act be? The same action because it seemingly helps the individual or trying to unlearn empathy and try to pursue other things

read, watch anime, shitpost

Just some shit that has no value but makes me feel special

>>8002783
There's a tiny market for inspirational poetry supported by grandmas and Christians.

>>8002783
That picture, although cheesy, is very relatable desu. That postcoital feel of waking up after disappearing into the universe of a good book is pretty amazing.

>>8002783
Music has largely replaced poetry nowadays; there shall you seek a distinction between commercial drivel artificially designed by large record companies, pretentious garbage spewed out by humanities students and truly inspired art. Not to mention that a lot of music's artistic appeal is based on the sound of it rather than lyrical content; perhaps hip-hop is the closest thing to conventional poetry.

Then you've got "poets" like Mira Gonzalez. I read some of her work - it could work as prose if properly punctuated, but calling it "poetry" is, let me say it again, pretentious.

>>8002602
I have this one in my soon-to-read stack. Glad you like it. I read his The Body Artist a few months ago and really didn't like it. I'm holding off on Underworld, but that one's supposed to be great.

>>8002602
Haven't read it yet but Delillo doesn't publish shit like Pynchon does.

you didnt miss shit, reading is useless and if you think that it will give you any knowledge you are lying to yourself

That's not that late

>>8002517
I didn't start until 20 either, and now I'm doing a PhD in literature, have an enormous book collection and generally live a fairly literary lifestyle.

You've got plenty of time, OP.

I'm actually interested in this as well (Not OP)

The advice I got from a friend who is in the Classics department at my school was Mandelbaum

>>8001839
You should also read the Aeneid.

>>8000167
Did you not read the dialogue? Doesn't he describe in there somewhere his belief that everything comes from having been not because it is? You aren't led because you are in a state of being led. You are led because you were once not being led now you are. He uses this meme to justify his belief in an afterlife. For you to become dead, you must live. For you to live you must have been dead or some state previous to being alive. In his words, not mine, he believes that because this theme is common in nature. That there must be a state between the two or before. Hot does not become Cold because it is Cold. It becomes Cold because it is cooled. And this is where some of his logic stems from, observations of nature.

Few things:

1) Euthyphro is an early dialogue and entirely concerned with refuting the eristic argumentation of the sophists (specifically, not clarifying their terms) This involves linguistic ambiguities, often things as simple as making false equivalence between homonyms that look or sounds like, but are nevertheless loaded with different meanings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro#Third_definition
>To the modern reader, this part of the argument (10a-11a) sounds painfully convoluted. But it had to be written this way, because the Greek of Socrates's time lacked the grammatical terminology to refer to the active voice and passive voice which would have greatly simplified Socrates's expressions.[4] Nor can he refer to Aristotle's Categories, which also goes into great detail on this distinction (treating it as between simple expressions of state and secondary substances). So he explains with detailed examples ('carried', 'loved', 'seen') instead.

2) You're reading Jowett which can be tricky for exactly this reason even in the best of cases, even in dialogues other than the Euthyphro. But here it's fucking murder. He just translates the thing and assumes people will figure it out, I guess?

In general though, Jowett is not going to give you seventeen footnotes for every sentence, and often won't provide the Greek equivalent of phrases in brackets, which critical editions will usually do. Very helpful, e.g., when the English translation is horribly clunky and confusing but the original Greek makes intuitive sense, as in this case. You kind of need a good sense for when you should be imagining the Greek "behind" Jowett's translation of it, rather than just the English. Combined with the above point, this can make many of Plato's early dialogues especially challenging, because eristic argumentation naturally hinges on ambiguity of terms and linguistic issues specific to the Greek language.

You're unfortunately reading a particularly bad swamp of difficult translation in Plato, both in the usual sense and in cultural terms since they lacked concepts we now think of intuitively. On top of that, literary communication is secondary and oral is primary at this point - Plato is one of the first real prose writers in the Western tradition. So the ancient reader of this dialogue would pick up on Plato's point intuitively, that homonyms are not necessarily synonyms, where you're lost as fuck. Plato is trying to tackle things in whole paragraphs that we could say in two words because we have formalised grammar and writing.

>>8000167
Existence precedes essence

Sit down in bed with pen
Watch porn for 7 hours
Get KFC/pizza
Go to bed

>>7998668
I usually try to write during the morning and the night. My word count improved a lot since I have two writing sessions a day.

I always try to convey my character's traits like Tolstoy does, describe details as best as I can like Nabokov would recommend, and present it in an interesting prose. My style has been tooled a lot by Pynchon and Tolstoy lately, I believe. Even though I know I'm not as good as them, the idea of becoming a decent writer in the future keeps me going.

I usually write in the evening because I attend to college in the morning and I'm too lazy to wake up before 7:30. Sometimes right after lunch, sometimes before dinner. On weekends I use to stay awake for some hours after dinner (usually at 23:00, mediterranean hour) and write if I don't go out partying. My standard writing session is one hour long and something between 500 and 1200 words. Although I don't write everyday.
Started writing in september of 2015 and I feel like my progress has been pretty fast. Now I check some drafts I wrote in september/october/november and I see them as clearly inferior to my last stuff. I have posted some of my "late" writings on the spanish threads of /lit/ and they were well received (1L to that argie who used to insist on writing the critiques in english, your reccomendations were and are appreciated), so I feel like I'm already visibly improving my writing and that's what keep me going. I'd say my main inspirations are (not always deliberately) Flannery O'Connor, Faulkner, Chekhov, Roberto Arlt and maybe Pynchon. Although, as I said, I've been writing for no more than half a year and I know I still have a shitton to write, experiment and work.

I-I'm sorry OP, say again?

Yes, they're called comics.

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The Burning Plain - Rulfo - University of Texas ed. I don't know if the Spanish original had pictures.

Got any sauce for that image? I don't know if looking at these types of photos satisfies my lust or just aggravates it but in any case I'd like some moar if you would be so kind.

anything with pictures will attract a wider audience than something without because pictures don't require as much thought. and seeing as how the greatest authors of our generation are JK Bowling and etc. who make a point of appealing to the lowest common denominator...

yeah go ahead. but if you're just in it for the money then become a fuckin banker or something.

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>>8001653
Rumi, comes to mind.

Maybe Kahlil Gibran?

>>8001653

So it's not Arabic, it's Persian, but the entire field of Rubaiyyatic studies is fantastic. (That is, the study of Omar Khayyam's Ruabaiyyat, which means 'quatrains' or 'verses'). Old Omar was a poet in like 12th century (Islamic) Persia.

Really you can't go wrong with Fitzgerald's translation at least for an aesthetic experience even if it's not a literal interpretation

>>8001653
ibn arabi

MY

>>7999006
dairy

God's eye sees my life. That's good enough.

>>7975430