How important it is to read the bible before getting into philosophy?
>>7376883
Completely pointless unless you've mastered symbolic logic
>>7376883
It's not really that important if your philosophical readings start with the Greeks. That's a different matter by the time you get to Augustine and the other medievals though. You could start with either, or you conclude your Greek and early Roman studies with the Bible.
>>7376883
OP here, this is my plan:
>read a book of general human history (very resumed ofc)
>read the holy bible
>get into philosophy and the history of the philosophical school i am reading more deeply
r8? tips?
>watch zizek video
>laugh quite a bit
>find zizek so charismatic
>lose his chain of logic at points but no matter, i understand the individual analogies and examples
>lol, he's right, we really are so much smarter than the champaigne socialists, SJWs, and most liberals
>lol, a final joke
>close window
>realise I don't know what the fuck the point of the whole thing was
and so on it goes...
KAWAIIII :3
What book are you embarrassed you haven't read yet?
Any of the classics that I haven't read yet. I have this weird idea that as someone who likes reading and books, I have a moral obligation to read certain authors.
>>7376876
There's always something. I read Recognitions, but I haven't read JR. I read Wuthering Heights, but I haven't finished Jane Eyre. I've read all of Shakespeare's stuff, but only the abridged Canterbury Tales.
My life is hell, senpai desu.
>>7376876
Das Kapital. Not memeing.
Did I pleb?
>>7376841
Yes. Canonical poetry and James Joyce are the very definition of pleb
>>7376841
Y'don't srsly wear breeches like thah'—? :')
>wearing shoes inside house
disguss
>>7376837
*imverno
what is this meme's name?
I'm really curious about / want to read this book. Does /lit/ think it's any good? Is it pleb-tier?
>>7376758
>I'm so special because I understand how crappy boring life is!
It's that for 200 or 500 pages depending on which edition you get.
It's incredible. Get the edition you posted, not the short one.
>netflix
>game of thrones
>j law
>kloe, kylie, kanye, kim, caitlyn
>omg just going for a run
>omg just goin to the gym
>so creepy
>so random
>so awkward
>emojis
>bad boys
>music festivals
>charity fundraising
>freshers week
>travelling
>backpacking
>hostels
>going for a coffee
>nandos
>tinder
>instagram selfies
>buzzfeed
>star wars
>harry potter
>iphones
>macbooks
>social experiments
You forgot
This is some kakfaesque bait here man
>charity fundraising
>freshers week
>buzzfeed
>social experiments
>>7376752
None of that shit would actually attract young readers though. I'd say the way to go would be an easy to swallow, dumbed down intellectual message that can be memed on facebook and youtube, something like Infinite Jest but more capably written.
It would allow young people on social media to brag/post their ideal self image (an intellectual reading type). This makes it go viral. You buy an island next to Stephen King and pork JK Rowling in her boot.
>Happy are those who know they are spiritually poor; the Kingdom of heaven belongs to them!
What did Jesus mean by this?
Also, what does /lit/ think of The Sermon on the Mount?
>>7376728
>if you acknowledge that you're worth less than nothing, then God will reward you later!
There, that's it. Christianity is about the catharsis of embracing how much you suck, which is why it goes so well with AA.
>>7376728
Once you recognize you are a sinner, a scumbag, an average human being, and accept Christ's grace into your heart, the kingdom of God opens to you.
Did you guys know that Thomas Pynchon is a former racist?
He admits to it and other prejudices in his shocking introduction to Slow Learner. How are we to reconcile the racial hatred of Thomas Pynchon with the goofy persona he's crafted for himself? Is this why he hides from the public -- out of shame?
This is some seriously gross and concerning stuff.
While I hate Thomas Pynchon I wouldn't classify it as racial hatred, but rather as personal hatred. Perhaps even literary hatred.
>>7376582
>Modern readers will be, at least, put off by an unacceptable level of racist, sexist and proto-Fascist talk throughout this story. I wish I could say that this is only Pig Bodine's voice, but, sad to say, it was also my own at the time. The best I can say for it now is that, for its time, it is probably authentic enough. John Kennedy's role model James Bond was about to make his name by kicking third-world people around, another extension of the boy's adventure tales a lot of us grew up reading. There had prevailed for a while a set of assumptions and distinctions, unvoiced and unquestioned, best captured years later in the '70's television character Archie Bunker.
>It may yet turn out that racial differences are not as basic as questions of money and power, but have served a useful purpose, often in the interest of those who deplore them most, in keeping us divided and so relatively poor and powerless. This having been said, however, the narrative voice in this story here remains that of a smart-assed jerk who didn't know any better, and I apologize for it.
No it's not disconcerting because he admits to it and has changed. Nearly everyone starts out racist.
>>7376582
Eh, everybody is a little bit racist. And if he's a former racist, then I don't see why anybody should give him shit for it. It's something he's already come to see as wrong and has abandoned.
It's very dull-witted to assault people for things that are no longer relevant.
How many books do you read at the same time?
1 fiction, 1 nonfiction. anything else I read in conjunction w/ this will be super lite reading that doesn't require much investment at all, like right now Live Off the Land in City and Country, which I look at when lazy.
>>7376555
At most 3.
>beat writers
>>7376535
These get worse and worse as time goes on.
>>>/r/books
>>>/trash/
Muh moloch
>>7376535
>beat writers
With a baseball bat, please.
Hey /lit, not sure if you can help me out but it's worth a shot. I want to seriously get into reading (I've casually read here & there and I read for classes in high school) but I feel like I lack the ability to deeply understand & analyze complex novels because of my lack of serious reading. Do you have any recommendations for places to start? Perhaps books that really sparked your interest in reading? I'll take any genre. Pic somewhat related, I really enjoyed it despite the fact that I didn't take from it everything that it offers.
Start with Greeks
>>7376501
Anything specific you recommend to start with?
>>7376508
The Greeks
Anyone have any reccomendations for steam punk lit? I used to dislike steam punk bit I think that was just a reaction against cosplayers. Now I think the ideas are pretty interesting, I particularly enjoyed Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen series.
>>7376491
Check sticky
>>7376509
I had a look, saw plenty of cyberpunk but nothing about steampink.
Gibson/Sterling: The Difference Engine (if you read 1 steampunk book let this be it)
Mieville: Perdido Street Station
short story anthology "Steampunk", edited by Ann & Jeff Vandermeer
>"genre" books are just mindless wish fulfillment pulp without deeper context!
The vast majority of genre books, yes.
What's wrong with a book being for entertainment? And at least they aren't entertaining for the sole purpose of advertising and whoring out shit to you via commercials like television is.
>>7376790
If you're reading purely for entertainment, you aren't becoming a more enlightened person. You're just wasting the time left before you die.
Casino just gifted me a free Kindle.
Any tips or things I should know about it? I only just set it up a few moments ago but it seems pretty nifty. I was pleasantly surprised by how it looks.
You can just turn it offline forever and load books through USB from a computer. Uses .mobi format. Epub is equivalent but unless you crack it and install a different UI you'll need to convert to mobi first.
>>7376105
was actually just about to research how i could do this. super useful thanks so much.
>>7376096
>Any tips or things I should know about it?
um... it's an e-reader, it does e-reader things, what exactly are you expecting people to tell you here?
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