Do you need to have a good idea of what to write about when you begin, or do ideas come to you while you write?
>>7975923
came here to click on that picture
Both.
>implying I can write
>implying I can have ideas
most /lit/ books in public domain?
>>7975849
The Greeks
Jamba Joyce
The Metamorphosis
what does /lit/ think of him?
>>7975838
I don't.
I can come up with themes, general situations or abstract ideas for stories, but not with plots. Anyone else feels the same?
>>7975828
>writing for plot
>>7975828
>Plots
They're a construct. Just look at Dostoevsky
>>7975828
Not saying that some author's don't start with plot, but I think more often they begin with characters.
From the Preface to Portrait of a Lady:
Trying to recover here, for recognition, the germ of my idea, I see that it must have consisted not at all in any conceit of a "plot," nefarious name, in any flash, upon the fancy, of a set of relations, or in any one of those situations that, by a logic of
their own, immediately fall, for the fabulist, into movement, into a march or a rush, a patter of quick steps; but altogether in the sense of a single character, the character and aspect of a
particular engaging young woman, to which all the usual elements of a "subject," certainly of a setting, were to need to be super added. Quite as interesting as the young woman herself at her
best, do I find, I must again repeat, this projection of memory upon the whole matter of the growth, in one's imagination, of some such apology for a motive. These are the fascinations of the
fabulist's art, these lurking forces of expansion, these necessities of upspringing in the seed, these beautiful determinations, on the part of the idea entertained, to grow as tall as possible, to push into the light and the air and thickly
flower there; and, quite as much, these fine possibilities of recovering, from some good standpoint on the ground gained, the
intimate history of the business--of retracing and reconstructing its steps and stages. I have always fondly remembered a remark
that I heard fall years ago from the lips of Ivan Turgenieff in regard to his own experience of the usual origin of the fictive picture. It began for him almost always with the vision of some person or persons, who hovered before him, soliciting him, as the active or passive figure, interesting him and appealing to him just as they were and by what they were. He saw them, in that fashion, as disponibles, saw them subject to the chances, the complications of existence, and saw them vividly, but then had to
find for them the right relations, those that would most bring them out; to imagine, to invent and select and piece together the situations most useful and favourable to the sense of the
creatures themselves, the complications they would be most likely to produce and to feel.
"To arrive at these things is to arrive at my story," he said, "and that's the way I look for it."
What is the most immersive and encroaching book you ever been absorbed into?
>>7975811
Slaughterhouse Five lmao
gOOSEBUMPS gIVE yOURSELF gOOSEBUMPBS.
yOU HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES SO THE IMMERSION IS VERY BELIEVABLE
Honestly, the Game of Thrones series. Kind of like how junk food is designed to make you want to eat it. It's like watching TV except with words and paper. No mental exertion required. One of the few books I could forget about time reading.
fellow students,
what is the longest paper you've written, revolving a poem, using no outside sources?
How did tun out? What was your topic?
>>7975755
Wrote a 35 page essay on Whitman's "Song of Myself." Got an A, but I don't think my professor read it all.
Is there any literature that will reinforce my self esteem and make it easier to socialize with people?
Pic unrelated
How to Win Friends and Influence People
>>7975741
people shit on this book needlessly, mostly out of some mistaken idea, given that they've never read it, that it's a machiavellian book, and even though it's common sense, it's still good.
>>7975738
Models by Mark Manson.
No more Mr nice guy for self esteem and self respect
What are the best British novels? I'm just starting to read again and want some literature from my own nation. Anything you suggest lads?
the once and future king
Ulysses, Middlemarch, Emma, Bleak House, Tom Jones, Great Expectations, Vanity Fair
is it a great american novel?
>we will never get a sequel following Ignatius and Myrna to NYC
>>7975653
Is this worth reading? It's on my night table, but haven't opened it yet. Feel like returning it to the library and forgetting about it.
Is it a book?
It's bright and colourful and sitting on my serving tray it looks just as if it were made of icing.
Have I inadvertantly bought the cake of the book?
Just got it from library today along with some Céline, Joyce, Pessoa and Wallace. Pretty hyped.
I spend a lot of my time writing and masturbating. I think I do it because when I was a kid I used to read a lot of science fiction books. Note that I'm talking about writing here. I don't think the science fiction has influenced my masturbating at all. My favorite was Bradbury. Some of his stories were shit but there are two of his stories that have always stuck with me. One was one called Sun and Shadow ( https://www.unz.org/Pub/Reporter-1953mar17-00036 ) and one was called The Long Rain ( http://www.blaine.k12.wa.us/bhs/Staff%20pages/mstevens/Stevens_Site/Welcome_files/The-Long-Rain.pdf ). These two stories were my earliest true pure literary experience. Being able to read these with almost no preconceived social/cultural/etc. biases was an experience I can never have again. Reading them was a seminal experience for me that probably explains why I am the way I am today.
The funny thing is that my mom only bought me those kinds of books because old ass used books (like 5 cents each at a yard sale) were cheaper than Animorphs (which were like $15 each and there were like 100 of them).
>Being able to read these with almost no preconceived social/cultural/etc. biases was an experience I can never have again.
What's the tl;dr of the stories and what are the aspects that you now (would) read differently?
And how long do you take from taking your cock in the hand for the first time till coming?
>>7975620
Sun and Shadow is about a guy who flashes his penis at a photographer because he doesn't want his picture taken. He does it because he doesn't want his shitty life to be simplified into a single picture that people will see with no context. When I was a kid I may not have been able to elucidate my understand that well but I think my inclination to be suspicious by default of everything stems from this story. This is the better and more "literary" of the two so if you only want to read one, read this one.
The Long Rain is about a group of spacemen stranded on a planet where it never stops raining. Bradbury maintains a striking omnipresent dread hopelessness throughout that gives me chills. It is a horror story with no horror.
>>7975674
If you like the Long Rain check out the Walls of Eryx by Lovecraft. Very similar and extremely unnerving story.
>____ reading
>muslim reading
Are literature studies just agenda inputs at this point?
>feminist reading
>muslim reading
>queer reading
>queer muslim reading
etc
Any worth in that diploma? Not talking market wise.
>____ pussy vagina
what the fuck happened at the end of this book
It finished.
>reading cucknegut
>>7975543
FPBP
Hey /lit.. I've never seen any threads on the subject so I thought I would start one.
Which e-book reader is the best?
>>7975535
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Had kobo aura HD and now have a paperwhite.
Go with Kindle.
The small inconvenience of converting to moby doesn't outweigh the other advantages.
Wow. Just wow. I haven't read a book that gripped me like this did. Being a fan of "1984" and "Brave New World" this hits the nail on the head into bringing it into the near future.
Most of the story takes place in Japan, but it is very easily understood and there isn't much written that didn't translate into English well. The story is fast paced and well detailed. The characters are well developed and the world is very believable
>>7975526
>sci-fi
>translated from japanese
Anon.the book probably sucks.
>>7975526
>there isn't much written that didn't translate into English well.
Nigger don't pretend you speak moon.
>>7975559
> decides it sucks
> hasn't read it
God? is that you? why did you put guys' G-spots up their asses?
I have recently taken an interest in Mircea Eliade, but don't know if he's worth reading or not. For example: Is "The Sacred and the Profane" worth my time?
Any recommendations? - Both in terms of fictional works and his research.
I read The Old Man and the Bureaucrats which was pretty good. Short too. Eternal return is his recommended starting place for his research.
i date rich teenagers who go to prep schools and i understand why john green is a thing
imagine an entire high school full of thousands of self-important rich people who get their political opinions from youtube channels and embody john green characters
>>7975567
how did this end up in the mircea eliade thread instead of the john green thread
well whatever i am also a crypto-fascist and eliade is pretty good