What are some beautiful/weird/useful parts of this old influential book?
I'm currently reading the genesis illustrated by Robert Crumb and highly recommend it.
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>>7595554
my diary to be honest
I went to a christian elementary school. In class, we had to read some parts of the book together. given the fact that i was about 6-11 years old at the time i can't really say what is worth reading in the litterary/moral sense.
Nevertheless, I really enjoyed the books of David and Samson, pure for the storyline. its nice, like reading a novel if you have a modern version of the bible. The book of Caïn and Abel is a classic brother story in which, if you have a brother, you can definitly identify yourself (though the ending is a little bit extreme to say the least, no spoilers). The new testament is a bit overdone by Hollywood so it might be nice to re-read it, see where the story originates from. And the book from the new testament where Petre continues his journey is really good too.
Can't really think of anything else now. Hope this helped mate. Good luck!
>>7595554
Ecclesiastes is pretty well regarded, I've heard.
What are some more essential dystopian novels?
>>7595541
Atlas Shrugged
>>7595559
good joke
1984, BNW, We, The giver, never let me go
Off the top of my head
Just wondering cause I just read White Noise and thought it was fucking brilliant
It somehow became a fucking meme to hate Don Delillo here. Ignore obvious shitposters.
White Noise is a brilliant novel, OP. What did you like most about it?
>>7595507
I enjoyed White Noise, Libra and Underworld.
Didn't care for End Zone, which in fairness was very early in his career
>>7595507
>asking whether /lit/ likes Delillo
Lurk moar before posting
Hey /lit/ eastern fag here looking for recommended reading in a particular order for eastern philosophy, in particular Buddhist philosophy, any suggestions?
>>7595364
Yes. Skip Buddhism and go straight to Taoism.
>>7595364
>Buddhist philosophy
>Buddhist
>Philosophy
>>7595364
Buddhist philosophy is a massive corpus.
The earliest stuff is the abhidharma of the Pali canon, literally "phenomenology." Might check out Nyanaponika Thera's Abhidhamma Studies: Buddhist Explorations of Consciousness and Time.
Mahayana philosophy is usually depicted as being comprised of two pillars - Madhyamaka and Yogacara. For Madhyamaka the principal work is Nagarjuna's Mulmadhyamakakarikas. Use the Nishijima translation. For Yogacara Vasubandhu is the main guy. I can't think of a good intro book on that.
The third phase of Buddhism, Vajrayana, things get much more complicated. For the Tibetan tradition, Tsongkhapa, founder of the Geluk sect (the Dalai Lama's sect) is very straightforward and systematic in his writings, and forged an extremely precise form of Buddhist dialectics. In Japan it was Kukai. Around this time Chan/Zen was born in China. Huineng's platform sutra is a good starting point. Then there's no shortage of English books on Japanese Zen, so I won't get into that here.
Buddhist philosophy, as you can see, is a very general umbrella term. Lots of stuff there.
What do you think of his body of work? I haven't read anything by him since highschool and am about to start re-reading to see if it still holds up.
Not my favorite writer but you can talk to a lot of people about Breakfast of Champions or Slaughterhouse.
I like Breakfast of Champions more of the two
>>7594724
Kill yourself?
What books would /lit/ recommend for someone who is learning English?
I'm teaching a Japanese girl at my college English, and I want to give her something relatively simple, but not hogwash.
Highschool curriculum stuff
A celebrity memoir perhaps? Tina Fey maybe?
>>7593543
>bourgeois make-up and hairstyle
>big manga doe eyes
>passive pose
>not even running forward to stab capitalist-roaders through the guts with a giant fountain pen
0/10 would not make revolution with
Are there any books where the characters fart? Or shit? Brush their teeth? I feel like very often in books/movies the normal every day behavior stuff is skipped entirely. I realize it might be gratuitous but there's a lot of gratuitous stuff in books.
>inb4 diarrhea dany
There are plenty.
It often happens but I don't care if it doesn't. I prefer it does't. I want to read a thrilling book, not a transcription of someone's boring life.
on Ulysses you can find the most poignant accounts of people shaving, shitting, swallowing food, walking, and countless other minute daily activities
Where to start with Confucius? Ezra Pound translations?
start with the Greeks
Readings in Classical Chinese Philosophy - Ivanhoe & Van Norden
>>7592922
Afaik Ezra Pound couldn't even read Chinese. So... no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xYO-VMZUGo
This guy incarnates all that is wrong with high intelligence (as opposed to "normal" intelligence and as opposed to "very high" intelligence). He has the ability to accumulate knowledge, but he's so hyperactive and arrogant that he never pauses to think rationally and figure out that what he's saying is removed from reality to the point of being flat out false if not absurd.
Post-modernism is the negation of one reality that is the common source of our intersubjectivity. It is a speculative narrative that makes interesting tales and musings and which may inspire... but that never accomplishes anything real. In other words, post-modernism is just bullshit that any asshole can make up on the spot and pretend to be true as long as it's not been proven false by somebody else. It is embracing logical fallacies and making yourself appear smart to anyone who's smart enough to point out your bullshit. Anecdotes are fallacies. Argument from ignorance is a fallacy. Argument from popularity is a fallacy. Zizek is just full of shit. As is psychoanalysis, which has fallen into the trashbin of history in all countries except France. Especially Lacanian psychoanalysis. Lacan was making shit up all the goddam time. He was receiving 80 patients... I mean "clients" every day. That's 5-10 minutes per patient. And he just had to play on words. Pure outrageous bullshit!
As for the beginning of his talk, Zizek seems to forget that in real life, without dating websites, seduction and simply maintaining a relationship are commodifications too. Through our appearance, our culture, our personality, we present an array of characteristics that will be evaluated by potential partners who will decide whether we're a good product for them or not.
>he's wrong because i said so
>>7591067
His views are quite bland. I've read him argue that islamic terror comes from 'jealousy'.
He wrote a few interesting ideas on certain movies but beyond that, he's feels like the neil tyson of philosophy.
He is a cultural critic first psycho-analyst last.
Criticize this without buzzwords
Nigger
>>7589918
1 post and we're done. good thread everyone pack it up. same time tomorrow?
>>7589918
haha epic!! Can't wait to post this to /r/4chan
Is it worth learning a classical language for reading the earliest in Western canon?
Where does one start and with which texts?
Something like latin enriches the languages you already know and any further ones you'll learn.
>>7596778
Can you expand on this, please?
>>7596830
Not him but learning Latin is a bit of an intellectual rite of passage, or used to be, because aside from initiating you into the GREAT WORKS of Cicero and so on (which you may or may not value, and remember this was also inertia from an age where translations where much, much rarer, whereas nowadays you can build a career in academia by translating the obscurest shit you can find), learning a classical language teaches you rigorously and "cleanly" how to learn a language.
Living languages have a lot of distractions and infinite points at which you can go take your partial knowledge and apply it to more-or-less workable conversation with living people and living culture. Go talk to half the professors of foreign extraction in some university department, and their English will be quirky and shitty even after decades, because fundamentally it's fine to speak quirky and shitty English. Their reading is probably slightly more serviceable and they can get along.
But if you want to be able to read and enjoy Mallarme or fucking Heidegger or something, you need to know German to the same degree that people used to know Latin. Learning Latin will make you realize how vital and useful it is to apply the same strategy to a modern language, and so to avoid all those distractions.
Afternoon /lit/
I really need some terrifying, staying up at night, turn on the lights, horrific books that will/have scared you.
To make this thread a /lit/ thread, also talk about your favorite horror books and why they scared you so much?
Only thing that really scares me is how pathetic my life is, to be quite honest family
The first 1/3 of 11/22/63 is scary as fuck. Parts of V. were unnerving. So were parts of Lot 49. How The Mind Works is like paint thinner for your soul.
where do you start with the greeks?
>>7596472
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You start with Aristotle, then read everyone else in light of Aristotelian principles.
Jason and the Argonauts - Chaffey
Got this copy in a local charity shop, trying to find out when it was printed, seeing as it's not said anywhere inside the book.
>>7596441
>meem keyboard
>can't even find printing date
Please go back to you know where
This is the page showing the printing company "butler &Tanner Ltd.". It was published by "Ward, Lock and Co."
>>7596447
Senpai, I've looked everywhere in this book and there is no printing date to be seen.
I just read this. Is it good?
You read it. You tell me.
I read you. Tell me this.
Is that the new translation, directly from the Greek? Did you really read it? How was it?
