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When did you finally realize you had nothing important to say about things and no artistic merit whatsoever, that everything you create will be an unoriginal chewing of vomit of greater people and gave up the attempt to write?
I really dont have time for that.
>>8248310
>When did you finally realize you had nothing important to say about things and no artistic merit whatsoever, that everything you create will be an unoriginal chewing of vomit of greater people and gave up the attempt to write?
When I actually tried writing for the first time. I just sat there because I had absolutely nothing to talk about and no life experience whatsoever.
I don't have anything """important""" to say, I just wanna write a nice story with nice prose.
Has anyone here read this? It was my second Gaddis book after The Recognitions and I don't really know what to make of it. It was just all so abrupt, especially those last two chapters.
>>8248203
Actually the only Gaddis I've read so far.
I really liked it alot, anon. I'm a big fan of anti-climax in a narrative, but there are plenty of crumbs provided that allow the reader to interpret, or remain mystified, as to what happened. The events don't actually matter though, it's the fever pitch of deplorable humanity that made the book work for me.
I read Gaddis' Paris Review interview, and a review of the book by Cynthia Ozick as well, and Ozick and the interviewer both hone in on the possibility of McCandless madness, but I think they're lending it too much importance. I think that contemporary readers often try to use mental illness as something more than it is, but if you look at people suffering madness from syphilis in a text like Ulysses, it's more of a character flaw than any sort of extenuating condition. I get that it is a by product of the syphilis, but I think the point I'm coming to is that it's more a description of a perceived societal condemnation than it is the clinical exposition of why a person is the way they are.
>>8248543
It's not what happened that was the issue for me, but how jarring it all was as a whole.
I did enjoy it, but I guess it was as strangely constructed as its eventual title. That aspect of it caught me off guard at the end somehow.
I have a first edition signed copy.
was Tolkien depressed when he wrote this little story?
>incest
>suicide
>murdering of innocent people (not in war)
>deceiving and plotting
>tragic ending
this is easily the darkest Tolkien story
he is no stranger to dark storylines, but this was just filled with wicked people and mean spirited acts
what do you think?
At least for a while Tolkein imagined that Turin would come back during Middle Earths Ragnarok, when Morgoth breaks through the Door of Night and the final battle begins, and that little ole Turin would be the one to deliver the final death blow to Morgoth himself.
Thinking of that kind of makes it all ok.
>>8248038
Did you never hear of Kalevala or at least Greek tragedy?
Because this is the retelling of the first and could be seen as influenced by the second.
Tolkein was big into old Sagas and pagan tales. Don't be surprised when a work influenced by them is full of death, intrigue, and misery.
I just finished The Stranger, and i really enjoyed it. What do you guys think of this book?
>>8248029
>he enjoyed the stranger
HAHHAHAHAAHHAAHA
Shouldn't you be in school kid?
the most overrated legitimate work of literature i've ever read
it's like catcher in the rye for college students
>>8248037
What's so bad about it?
ITT: Philosophers who practiced what they wrote
>>8247913
>implying writing is not practice
>>8247973
It's not
>>8247913
Julius Evola.
Literally gave away all of his paintings and writings for free, and lived an incredibly modest life.
What went wrong? Is Lacan alone enough to do this to a man?
At least he grew some hair on that feminine face of his + also the chest, pretty sure he gets laid for every sniff he produces
The fight against ideology is stressful on a man.
Influence by yellow fever and video games
Is there a good "first year literature textbook" type of thing you've ever read?
Something like pic related, which went through editing, sound, genre, angles, misenscene, form, content, but instead about prose.
Burroway, Writing Fiction
>>8247906
thanks
Is that actually good?
I am looking to increase my library with more medieval literature - What are your suggestions on must-owns besides the ones I currently have:
Divina Commedia
Decamerone
The Norse Eddas
St Augustine's Confessions and City of God
Beowulf
Chanson de Roland
Nibelungenlied
Hit me with your best medieval lit!
Chretien de Troyes' Arthurian Romances
>>8247773
The Decameron
St. Augustine isn't medieval you dip.
Recommend me some books whose perspective or main character is female age 24 to 56, preferably by a female author.
I'm writing a story about a lonely kindergarten teacher whose student dies. Need some more female perspective.
Already reading Alice Munro, Virginia Wolfe and Alice McDermott but need more.
o shit my nigga Jane Eyre is exactly what u need
Jane is always younger than 24 in the novel but there's a section whereher friend dies at boarding (charity) school and there's a lot of shit about the relationship between that student and one of the teachers
>>8247741
hack facebook acounts
Do Hip-Hop lyrics possess any deeper meaning, or hold any literary values worthy of being analyzed by scholars? If so, how could this be done, or are there any examples of this being done before?
BONUS: Try to break down and analyze lyrics of your favorite Hip-Hop song, or let others do it for you.
Not a single rap song is worth your time lyrically
>Do Hip-Hop lyrics possess any deeper meaning
pretty fucking obvious if you just listen to some
>or hold any literary values worthy of being analyzed by scholars?
lol
>>8247645
no
and i really wish you would stop making this thread
>OMG anon, of course I am a positivist! I love feeling happy! :)
[[internal autistic screaming]]
>I love being an intelligent and rational person, like all those cool famous scientists! Mind you, that's why I'm a rationalist!
{{I want to hate fuck you in the butt}}
>local philosophy factory closed down
what's a philosophy factory?
Mine outsourced to India. Fuck.
>>8247294
>can only afford cheap chinese buddhism
I am just beginning my literature journey. Of course I "read" what was required of me in high school but I merely extracted what I needed for my assignments, in other words, I read the books but made no attempt to understand them.
I (in a rather dark place) decided that I may as well pick try to read something because I had enjoyed reading when I was a child (obviously YA books such as HP and Percy Jackson) and picked 1984 out of a stack of mostly unopened or neglected books from my families bookshelf.
I was captivated. It unlocked deep emotions within me I had thought dormant. I related and empathized deeply with these characters and their circumstances. Then it was over.
I feel almost depressed? Not because of the ending itself or that it ended at all even, just very melancholy. Is this normal?
I am thinking about jumping into my next book (Siddhartha) but I feel like it may be too soon, that I haven't given myself enough time to process and understand what Orwell had just given me.
So I guess my question is, should I take some time before starting something else? Should I just move on and maybe understanding will come to me in time?
I'm not looking for some clear cut answer, I just wanted to know what you thought or about your personal experiences with this feeling.
(Also general 1984 discussion thread)
>>8247141
I think you can continue. Some works u just think about for the rest of ur life if they really ment something to you. If they did no new book will really take the message away and u have plenty of time to think about books u read afterr u read them.
>>8247141
>I am thinking about jumping into my next book (Siddhartha)
You sure you're not still in HS, because these were both assigned for me freshman year. Thankfully I'd read 1984 in eighth grade on my own and was able to understand it rather well. Hell, I was talking about it a few months back with one of my friends and she never figured out that Winston dies at the end.
>>8247220
9th: Lord of the Flies
10th: The Alchemist (among other options)
11th: A list of options I can't remember
12: Grapes of Wrath
I was even in AP.
Also I'm not particularly proud of this, but it isn't difficult to get an A on a paper about a book you didn't read. I was more preoccupied with Theatre and pussy at the time.
>unbeknownst
>unirregardless
>methinks
>photo.jpg
Modern Library Classics> NYRB Classics> Oxford world classics> Penguin Classics. (sometimes Penguin is better than Oxford but more often than not, Oxford is better)
Agreed?
>>8246425
>no norton critical
>no bedford case studies
>no vintage contemporaries
you didn't even try
>>8246425
I've honestly never even heard of Modern Library.
>>8246425
>one fairly ordinary publisher is better than another
is this really the sort of thing you spend time thinking about, anon?
