Philosophical differences aside, why do people dislike Ayn Rand's prose?
I ask this question because I enjoyed reading her books (even with their sometimes overwhelming length) and found her prose somewhat entertaining? The way I'd describe it is that it kinda feels like pic related: Old-fashioned and bold as fuck
>>7387491
>I enjoyed reading her books
Me too, but you can't say that here.
Her philosophy is childish and retarded, but I enjoy her epic-poem like style of prose. Every one of her characters is either a complete hero or a complete villain.
Her prose is actually totally fine, she writes action fairly well and cleanly. Her characterization, though, is moronic (all characters are either saints or devils).
I agree OP.
Who wrote like Hieronymus Bosch painted?
Burroughs is the one on the right
>Bosch
LOTR or something, anyways, get a taste.
Gaddis
What's the /lit/ equivalent of getting off the boat?
Falling off the wagon.
>>7387285
THINGS?!!
BIG
I feel like the answer should be obvious, but i just wanna make sure, which version of the Odyssey is the best?
>>7387084
Fitzgerald or Lattimore, depends on what you want.
>>7387084
Pope.why doesn't it exist? ;_;
>>7387084
The original.
Is discussion necessary in order to fully appreciate a book? Do you have anybody to talk about literature with in real life? Do you activly seek the discussion, or are you just trying to push your opinions on others?
>>7386988
No one to talk to
>Is discussion necessary in order to fully appreciate a book?
there is no such thing as 'fully' appreciating a book. you will miss stuff even if you spend twenty years studying a single book. so no. it might enhance your appreciation but it's not required.
>Do you have anybody to talk about literature with in real life?
yes.
>Do you activly seek the discussion, or are you just trying to push your opinions on others?
why would i care about what they have to say if its essentially the same as what i think? i mine people for their viewpoints, pushing mine is counterproductive.
>>7386988
It's important, but hard to find people to discuss with.
It can uncover nuances that you may have missed and offer perspectives that you hadn't thought of.
Also, since the need to connect with other other people is a part of human nature, it's better to do it over something worthwhile like lit
Hey dudes...what are some easy to read "feel good" books. My brother moved and I want to send him some books for Christmas since he says he's bored and has little money. No library near him.
He liked musashi a lot. Sadly he's not big into the classics. He did enjoy brothers K though. But I'm trying to think of just fun to read stuff.
Thanks in advance.
>>7386978
thanks, anon. that book looks pretty f'ing serious and not light and fun...
>>7386955
Moby-Dick
>mfw 10 page essay on the conception of god in Islam due tomorrow and haven't even started yet
Looks like you are fucked OP.
Please dump some good material on this, I have a bunch of Avicenna, Averroes, Ibn-Arabi etc. already
Does not have to be primary texts.
>mandatory weekly didn't start my homework untill the day before it's due thread.
Get off 4chan and start writing, we aren't going to do it for you.
How do I into the Russians? i.e which of these is more essential than every other essential
the 19th century is vastly more essential. you can't really disregard many of the authors there even if you're going for the essentialest of the essential.
i would say maybe ditch chekhov but i might get lynched
>>7386889
Turgenev is less essential than Chekhov, and I love Turgenev.
>>7386885
Start from the top and work you way down. When you're done, here are some others to check out (some duplicates from the chart):
-Anna Akhmatova
-Vasily Aksyonov
-Leonid Andreyev
-Mikhail Artsybashev
-Isaac Babel
-Andrei Bely
-Andrei Bitov
-Ivan Bunin
-Lydia Chukovskaya
-Sergei Dovlatov
-Venedikt Erofeev
-Afanasy Fet
-Vsevolod Garshin
-Aleksander Griboyedov
-Vasily Grossman
-Ilya Ilf and Evgeny Petrov
-Daniil Kharms
-Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky
-Mikhail Kuzmin
-Nikolai Leskov
-Vladimir Makanin
-Osip Mandelstam
-Vladimir Mayakovsky
-Yury Olesha
-Nikolai Ostrovsky
-Victor Pelevin
-Ludmilla Petrushevskaya
-Boris Pilnyak
-Andrei Platonov
-Zakhar Prilepin
-Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin
-Victor Serge
-Varlam Shalamov
-Mikhail Sholokhov
-Fyodor Sologub
-Vladimir Sorokin
-Tatyana Tolstaya
-Lyudmila Ulitskaya
-Mikhail Zoshchenko
At what point in your life did you become interested in literature and begin reading seriously?
i began reading at 7 and started the entry-level at 13. i attribute a large portion of my autism to this.
>>7386883
At 20, in early 2010. Almost simultaneous to the creation of /lit/.
>>7386883
23
25 now, I basically just read hard philosophy all the time now
it got me out of mayor depression, good stuff
i needed this shit when i was 19 yo
As an unperfect actor on the stage,
Who with his fear is put beside his part,
That henchy blunt rolled with too thick a page,
Whose white smoke chokes lungs and weakens the heart
Me! I say valiantly, when it’s asked
Who can handle this beast without splutter?
My lungs are a castle, they’re strong, hold fast
Toke deeply, and then squeak: “smooth as butter”
And then, for fear of looking lame, hold back
That fugitive itch nesting in my throat
But I am o’erwhelmed, saliva stacks
I tense as cough escapes my bodies moat
As they say, if thou wish to have good health
Then check thou self before thee wreck thou self
>>7386856
>Rhyming health with self.
>>7387003
>works phonetically
>>7387020
No it doesn't.
apology for poor english
when were you when god dies?
i was sat at home eating angel food cake when nietzsche ring
‘god is kill’
‘no’
How can one philosopher be so based?
>metaphysics: BTFO
>morality: BTFO
>religion: BTFO
>Rationalists: BTFO
>the Self: BTFO
>causation: BTFO
>induction: BTFO
>all scientific paradigms before and since: BTFO
>philosophy: BTFO
Where were you when the entirety of human intellectual history was kill?
What would Nietzsche make of selfies?
>>7386793
Then one man came to free the Empiricist scum...
What does /lit/ listen to whilst reading?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULTMMgwLuo
rachel's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un2K0CBHoJ0)
or tchaikovsky or nocturnes
The runescape soundtrack
I either read or listen to music. Doing both is tryhard-tier.
So I've taken the habits of reading books on the subway for the last months or so and displaying them very high in front of my face so that everybody can see the cover clearly and engage conversation about it, also I read one book a week so this should maximize the odds that I meet people with common taste, and yet still no literary gf. What is likely to be my mistake there ? Also do note that the subway I take only travels through p patrician districts.
>>7386673
I TOLD YOU
IT DOESN'T WORK WITH A KINDLE
>>7386673
>What am I doing wrong ?
The space before the question mark. Also you're ugly.
>>7386673
>I'm being super autistic all the time
>what am I doing wrong?
Does anyone know wtf this is? It was posted by someone on /lit/ and I saved it bc I love it, but I don't understand what it is. This isn't the ending of Finnegans Wake, is it? I recognize the riverrun, past eve and adams, etc. as the beginning of Finnegans Wake, and I know that it's supposed to be a circular novel, but no searches of these paragraphs bring up anything FW related, so I'm confused:
Music's in my ears, sounds
Strangely bringing days long
Gone, the heat of summer's sun,
Laura's face, all said and done,
The smell of sweat pervades the
Air, water's freshness sought and
Found, the thirst satisfied to sustain
August's lust's unquenchable fire,
She giggles and my body freezes, or
Maybe it evaporates and expands, like her
Laughter; her soothing voice spreads
Around the room, echoing, reverberating,
Colliding with the walls, everything,
Massaging my body. Her words touch my
Hears, her high-pitched laughter sounds
Like my smile, it seems, please keep talking,
And I'll just listen. Let everything else be
A movie to my mind, a movie, let it pass
And demand none of me, let me care without
Caring, let me love without loving, I love you,
I swear. Darling, I love you, it's just hard
To say I do, it's hard to put love into words,
Into gestures, into, into... it's hard to say
I love you, but I do, it's easy to, to love you.
He said that once. He knew his message
Hadn't gotten through, he knew it had been
Ridiculous, inadequate, stupid, pointless,
Dishonestly honest. Can't be who you aren't.
Her death left him baffled. He loved her.
But he felt what looked to him like relief.
She was gone, this was the end, there is
A lot of relief in knowing that things will end.
When meditating, the river's water shines
Clear and transparent. Transparency allows
Clear sight, clear sight allows knowledge, but
Knowledge impedes understanding of others,
For not everyone knows, while they act as
They do. Fallacies are sound arguments, that
Lack a proper score. Valid arguments are
Well-written scores, but they are nothing without
Performers. riverrun, past eve and adams,
from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings
us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back
to the fallacy that sounds through my ears.
Nice quads
Also this is just shitty OC poetry, nothing from a book
>>7386674
glad that's cleared up and I can finally delete this
>>7386666
This isn't very good. I'm going to guess you've written this and just trying to get some cheers, hiding your attention whoring with a phony request
I have to write something for my therapist. It can be a letter, memoir, essay, whatever. Only restriction is that it has to be about one page long.
I think I'm going with a short story, but other than that I'm lost.
Suggestions?
>250 words essay for therapist, due tomorrow
>haven't started yet
>>7386645
Screw your therapist, go do something fun
Write about dragons
