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Why does /lit/ like this book so much, considering that it was incredibly influential to the modern YA novel? You could even call it a precursor.

John Green raves about how it's one of his biggest influences.
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yawn troll more
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Wardine be love the stick that bruised her carrots, namsen?
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>>7988230
http://infinitesummer.org/archives/1486

read it and weep, faggot

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Does anyone have a pdf or ebook copy of this book?

Phatic Communion with Bob Dobbs

It is a tough one to find and out of print.
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>>7988192
/lit/ is an anti-Papist board. GTFO my /lit/ PAPIST!
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>>7988192
What's it about? Might want to ask /wsr/
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>>7988200

Not completely sure desu

This guy believes the Church of the Subgenius is based on him. He's a "para-media ecologist" who's influences are Marshall McLuhan, Finnegan's Wake, Wyndham Lewis, and a zillion other things that he rambles about for hours on his radio show.

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please post slackercore books familia
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>>7988186
back to >>>/fa/
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V.
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>>7988253
i'm from /lit/ desu

What's a good book to listen to? I mean a book that has literary merit but is easy enough to comprehend that I can do other things while I listen.

Pic not related.
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The Savage Detectives, by Bobby Bologna
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>>7988147
I'm thinking about listening to Botchan in japanese.
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Homer- you're supposed to listen to it anyway

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Kind advisors,

This fume of words, seducing poetic reason, it lyricaly shakes my gut.

any lectures, poems , stories of equal impact?
http://www.openculture.com/2012/05/jorge_luis_borges_1967-8_norton_lectures_on_poetry_and_everything_else_literary.html
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>>7988146
>this fume of words, seducing poetic reason, it lyrically shakes my gut

the faggiest sentence in the history of the world

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Name one book by a French author where the protagonist doesn't go to prison.
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The Art and Craft of Approaching Your Head of Department to Submit a Request for A Raise - Georges Perec
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>>7988140
Rene Descartes' Meditationes
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>>7988140
Nausea - Satre

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do you gytys find you write better drunk? I freel very creative but its hard to focus that energy to be honest.
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Not really, drinking and doing drugs make me depressed
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>>7988100
normally are how you deprresed?
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>>7988110
>normally are how you deprresed?
what did he mean by this?

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hey /lit/ what are some good science/fantasy fiction books to read
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>>7988075
vurt
the once and future king
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>>7988075
wow you are gross. why anon? why
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catalog. sage.

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What do you guys think about /r/books?

I feel like they have higher, meme free, content on lower quality books.

Do you browse any other literature forums?
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Why would you ever want higher, meme free content?
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>>7988056
>browsing bullshit forums
>instead of actually reading
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>>7988063
Because jerking off with other dilettantes is fun but not educational

Super cool to read Dirty Herman before he started bumping uglies with Hawthorne. So /lit/, what do you think? Should Dirty Herms have avoided plowing Nathaniel over the sink or would he have never been able to generate his masterworks without Hawthorne?
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Melville himself wrote about this in the allegory of the candle-maker in the Confidence Man. He needed Hawthorne even if it ruined him.

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Soup /lit/

I haven't seriously read anything (as in picked up a novel/nonfiction book and decided to read it) in the past 2 years or so. So I went on here and someone recommended I read Ulysses.

I am reading it and quite blown away by the poetic writing style and how he gets into the head of Stephen Dedalus.

The only possible criticism I can make is that there are so many grammatically incorrect sentence fragments. Did Joyce ever take an English highschool class?
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No you aren't you living fucking meme. Stop this. Every time I go into the fucking bookstore or come on /lit/ there's some post-ironic faggot who is like "Ulysses' language.. it's so poetic. It's the PINNACLE of PROSE! IRISH MEN, RUNNING THE WORLD.. A NEW AGE!"

NO IT FUCKING ISN'T

IT'S A FUCKING IRISH FARTFAG PLAYING GAY IRISH WORDSMITHERY GAMES
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>>7987897
>grammatically incorrect sentence fragments.
>Did Joyce ever take an English highschool class?
*head explodes
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>>7987897

I'm in your position except I just finished Shipping Out. It's a pretty funny read, on the surface, but it's morbidly transfigured by DFW's suicide.

Every other page includes a note on self-elimination as a 'wry joke.' The ocean as a 'primordial stew of death and decay' is a running motif. The entire conceit of the piece is DFW-as-clever-neurotic 'seeing through' the corporate processes used to induce relaxation in cruisegoers.

DFW's go-to capsule synopsis of Jest called it an investigation into the purposes and limits of pleasure; its central device, a magical film that is so enjoyable it makes viewers want to do nothing else but watch the tape continuously.

It's stupid to try connecting authorial biographies to literary analysis and it's stupid to guess at contributing factors of a suicide. In the case of DFW it's incredibly difficult to respect these rules. The question animating his entire career was, 'why bother?'

In interviews, DFW comes off as maybe the gentlest author ever recorded. He's unfailingly patient, respectful, and soft-spoken. But in 'Shipping Out,' seated next to middle-aged, midwestern dining companions whom he professes to deeply like, he spends eight paragraphs deconstructing these peoples' foibles to hilarious effect.

Have you seen the Charlie Rose talk where DFW is seated opposite Franzen, his long-time friend and, at that time, much lesser rival? DFW is polite and deferential towards Rose. DFW cautiously qualifies his generalizations in case you think he's leaping to conclusions or putting words in your mouth. But then Franzen, his friend, says something pretty innocuous about literary fiction; that its fans are much less likely to spend time with lowbrow TV entertainment.

"So the only people who read serious fiction are people who don't watch TV?" Says DFW. He's looking directly down his nose at Franzen.

"No, no--...ah, thank you for drawing that out for me, Dave..."

"No, no. If I misheard, enlighten me," says DFW. There's no mistaking his tone for the quaint circumspection marking DFW's NPR appearances. He's telling Franzen to fuck right off.

I could keep going, but basically I agree with OP. I'll try DFW's fiction but I'd be shocked to discover he could render a character believable, broken, and also loveable. I think most of DFW's life was spent mistaking one cause of unhappiness for another and proving that hatred is a habit that you can conceal, but which is very hard to slow or break.

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How does one write a novel that takes place in a city that one has never visited previously?

Can you ever truly develop an authetnic feel for the city in your writing?
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>>7987884

Look up pictures, read up about it, use your imagination
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You have both an advantage and a disadvantage. You may not really know the city, but you still have a romanticized vision of it. No previous experiences have ruined your opinions about the city, and it still has a mistery aura around it in your mind.
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>>7987890
This, and obfuscation.

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it's that time again
how did you read it ?
1.Navidson record all the way through > back to start > Johnny story + misc footnotes till completion
2.Navidson and johnny at same time till completion
3.Navidson till end chapter , go back Johnny + misc notes till end chapter > proceed to next chapter.
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Navidson Johnny at same time till the end

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Greetings, /lit! Today is the day we started the group-read of Ezra Pound's The Cantos, which you can find a Discord for at https://discord.gg/0x7GUiMfuYkFc1DN. For those who don't know and want to join, the pace is set at 50 pages a week, and there are discussion held on Discord on Tuesday and Friday at 6:00 PM Central Time. Feel free to ask questions or, if you have started, discuss in this thread and on Discord.
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faggot shit,

start in july or not at all
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I'd have loved to be a part of this but it's starting too early for me; going into exam period. I'll catch up with you guys if you're still going a month from now.
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>>7987886
YOU could always start in July, and then just talk about the chapters you've read.
>>7987900
I hope we will be. Regardless of whether everyone else stops or quits, I'm going to finish it.

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How shit are the Witcher novels is Sapkowski a hack tell me
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Pretty good actually, it's basically a clever self-aware subversion of fantasy tropes and then of genre fiction in general, while also being interesting reads and an interesting setting in their own right. Fun on several levels.

Anyone remember that Daikatana demo review by Lowtax?
>I CAN SMELL COLORS
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>>7987850
>clever self-aware subversion of fantasy tropes and then of genre fiction in general

Is it really? Or is it just a fantasy story with more swearing and fucking?
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I wouldn't say it's quite as genius as >>7987850 says, but it's definitely not bad. If you're into fantasy, give it a shot. Last Wish is short stories, so read a few and decide if you like it.

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