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Any technical book on investigating, crime detection, detective shit and the like?
Sherlock HolmesCrime and Punishment :^)
>>8044272
wtf is it, 20 y.o. sherlock holmes?
>>8044272
Do you mean the Anarchist's Cookbook of detective work, or fiction? Elmore Leonard and Raymond Chandler are top-tier crime fiction and although character driver are very intricate.
Just read this and loved it. Thoughts? Is the rest of Welsh's work worth reading?
Porno is so-so, Skagboys is awesome, as is Filth. Sex Lives Of Siamese Twins is good.
>>8044917
>Porno
How did that even work, by the way? It didn't seem like "Trainspotting" is the sort of book that lends itself to a sequel, and it ended pretty solidly. Hell, all the main characters would probably die in the time between the publication dates.
marabou stork nightmares is great.
Hey, c/lit/s. I am by no means a Marxist, but I'm trudging through Capital because I'm extremely interested in Marxism and this book in particular based on what I've read on Wikipedia lol. I haven't read any later Marxist works and I haven't progressed past the part about commodities, but I was wondering if there were any Marxists on /lit/ who'd be interested in chatting.
One thing that's struck me so far is that Marx's initial definition of a commodity is "an object outside us, a thing that satisfies human wants of some sort another." I know what Marx actually means (i.e a good or service that is bought and sold in the capitalist market), but this definition is problematic. By this definition, aren't intangible things like love commodities? Also, would Marx consider things like unpaid work (i.e. raising children/homemaking, which many feminist economists think ought to be calculated for in GDP) commodities? If you put labor into raising a child, you "crystallize labor" and value in that individual. Is a laborer/person a commodity? A person can certainly "[satisfiy] human wants of some sort or another." Thoughts?
Also, Marxism general. I will be a liberal until the day I die but Marx's vision of the world fascinates me.
When we say object, we mean a physical thing which exists in material form. Love isn't an object.
>domestic work
I think Marx would include that as something which goes towards the reproduction of labour power, and not valued as labour power itself, since one doesn't turn the product of domestic labour (clean dishes, e.g.) into something which is sold on the market.
>Ivan karamazov is an atheist ethicist who ends up having a mental collapse
>Freidrich Nietzsche is an atheist ethicist who ends up having a mental collapse
>Dostoyevsky's writing was an influence on Nietzsche
Does life imitate art?
As Zarathustra would say What does it matter?'
>>8043428
Nietzsche also channels Thrasymachus imo
>>8043483
that justice is the will of the stronger? no he doesnt. your reading of these texts must have been extremely superficial.
Alright /lit/
I don't frequent here, and I'm not even sure this is the right place to post, but it is literature related so you guys are my best shot.
Does anyone know where I can find the most direct English to German translation of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf?
>>8043054
There was a sad pitiful boy who felt entitled to special treatment in life, and when he didn't get as much of it as he wanted, he murdered a number of people. He's mentioned on this board quite often, provocatively so. His victim manifesto fits your request (assuming you meant German-to-English).
>>8043054
The Manheim translation.
>This ONE simple book / trick FINALLY lets you go from lazy and smart to really hard working and smart! Adderall dealers HATE it!!!
So what is it?
Report frogposters.
>>8043047
Intelligence
You know such things are bullshit
I find the process of scansion very difficult at times, is there something i could read to get better and more concrete understanding of it?
I was thinking of buying Stephen Fry's book, but it will take a while for it to get here,
"O, it came o’er my ear like the sweet sound,"
I came across this line by shakespeare, and it's supposed to be in iambic pentameter, but is the last foot not a spondee?
Also, is scansion with syllable length only in mind something that is ever done in contemporary english? I find that infinitely more interesting.
Stephen Fry's book is pretty good. I recommend it.
>I came across this line by shakespeare, and it's supposed to be in iambic pentameter, but is the last foot not a spondee?
It's not metrical, IMO (and certainly not blank verse). But this is something Shakespeare does now and again. The kind of classical structure in English verse was fairly new around the time he was writing (and unprecedented in drama), so Shakespeare gave himself a great deal of flexibility in his prosody. Don't get too hung up on making every single stressed syllable fit a preordained pattern, every great poet will vary his metre. Paradoxically, what makes blank verse is the way the poet works against it, not how he conforms to it. Perfectly metrical poetry is boring as fuck (Wordsworth...).
>Also, is scansion with syllable length only in mind something that is ever done in contemporary english? I find that infinitely more interesting.
I don't know what you mean here. Do you mean ignoring stress and simply counting syllables? That's so rare as to be completely unheard of, because it creates completely turgid poetry.
>>8043126
>I don't know what you mean here.
I mean you don't focus on the stress, but on the vowel length, almost like you would in ancient greek.
Isn't Dante's inferno only counted syllables with terza rima?
>>8043200
>I mean you don't focus on the stress, but on the vowel length, almost like you would in ancient greek.
The poets who introduced the accentual-syllabic metre into English (Edmund Spenser and Sir Philip Sidney, ~1 generation before Shakespeare) actually experimented in writing poems with metres based on vowel length at first, because they were trying to ape the classical languages Greek and Latin. Turns out it doesn't work very well at all in English because our language is just different, so they turned to stress instead.
>Isn't Dante's inferno only counted syllables with terza rima?
Yes, but Italian (and French too, which has a syllabic metre also) is a Romance language closely related to Latin. English, with its Germanic heritage is too rough, so stress has to be taken into account (Anglo-Saxon poetry was entirely metred by stress alone).
Hope I'm of some help
Which translation should I get?
>>8042988
it doesn't really matter. the book is a waste of paper and ink
All of them.
Bernofsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLccpNEGYHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBXKxBAJb5E
Well, /lit/?
>>8042776
>pink-on
worst one yet
>>8042914
I can literally hear his snaggleteeth
Just bought this and marathoned the title. Is it good?
>>8042242
What kind of a statement is that?
Yes, I think it's absolutely brilliant, but why do you ask after stating that you finished it without giving any other impression?
hOLY SHIT I WANT TO BE DOMINATED BY SOULCATCHER SO BAD FUCK
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>8042248
Marathoned the title not the book. Dionysus.
I'm about to read V. Any advice for what I should do to get the most out of it? Is reading Pinecone really as difficult as everyone says it is?
There is a contingent of morons here on /lit/ who will tell you that V. is essential to an eventual reading of GR. They are wrong. Read the first fifty pages, or until Profane first mentions hunting in the sewer, then move on to GR. V. isn't worth the time.
ur in over ur head kid
It's not really hard at all. It's a really comfy book with lots of interesting stuff happening.
If you don't really want to bother with it, at least read Fausto's chapter. It's the best one
Is the Wheel of Time worth getting into?
>>8041340
yeah you better hurry and read all 35 quick before the show comes out so you can brag to all your friends on facebook about how much you already know about the series.
you fucking normie.
>>8041349
>wheel of time
>normie
>>8041340
No. If you want, read it's wiki. It's like Horus Heresy, great as lore, absolutely retarded to actually read.
How do you guys get quality essays/scholarly articles to read up on the books that you're reading (if you do)? I want to begin to read more essays about the texts I read so that I can better understand them. Not so that I can be spoonfed interpretations, but so that I can expand my own and learn how to interpret better in the process. Just JSTOR/googling for PDFs?
>>8041269
I don't know what it is you're asking
Yes people read secondary materials
The question's in the first sentence of the post, dipshit
JSTOR thru university access
most places with essays have uni access stuff
The Pillars of the Earth
Does /lit/ like boats? I like boats.
Yes to both questions.
Pretty good book series desu
>>8041028
Actually I have the Folio Society edition of "The Far Side of the World". Seems pretty cool. Not gay, btw.
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