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¿What do you think about Antoine de Saint-Exupéry? ¿What is his best novel?
bruh...
southern mail
In “Lines Composed a Few Miles above Tintern Abbey, On Revisiting the Banks of the Wye during a Tour, July 13, 1798,” Wordsworth goes on about the "The still, sad music of humanity" but what do you think he means by that?
hello
rato
how's high school?
>>7733704
hello
rato
I've heard Buddenbrooks is a good start. I really want to dive into his work, he seems pretty interesting.
>>7733703
ffffucking read book bitch
go for it. they're separate novels. it doesn't matter.
buddenbrooks and/or death in venice.
take a detour with tonio kroger if you like death in venice.
then go magic mountain -> doctor faustus - >joseph and his brothers
his shorter stuff can be sprinkled in where you want depending on interest. mario the magician is a personal favorite, and i think it works well to read it right before doctor faustus.
after that you can explore his other stuff as you see fit. holy sinner and black swan are a bit "out there" and very much involved in mann's particular interests, and felix krull is cool but unfinished
>postcolonialist realism is just as relevant as postmodernism
one actually exists and is relevant to the lives of more than half of the world facing the legacy of Western imperialism and neocolonialism whereas the other doesn't really exist, is basically LELSORANDUMXD U DUN NO NUFFAN and is spearheaded by white males in their suburban basements making vapourwave remixes
>>7733657
in other words, one is produced by the natives of undeveloped countries, and the other by people with an actual command of art and the avant-garde therein.
>>7733642
>postmodernism is a thing
>modernism hasn't just been decaying for the last 100 years.
>"experimental" writing
a lot of it is pretty good though tbqh
much of the works of the surrealists in the early 20th century is very experimental and from that point onwards there is plenty of really good experimental writing up through the 60's and 70's
HEY LET'S COMPLAIN ABOUT STUPID SHIT AGAIN
>classicist writers with no interest in new emerging form
Can someone explain to me why reading fiction is so important?
I'm not condemning it. If you enjoy it, go ahead, I'm not here to shit on your fun.
I'm the kind of autistic though that only enjoys reading non-fiction. Every time I say this to my friends or family the response is either
>But non-fiction is boring!
>But you have to read more fiction anon
No one has ever given me a proper answer. So I hope my friends here at /lit/ can enlighten me.
There is no reason why reading fiction is important. The whole it gives you empathy reason is bullshit and used by autistic shut-ins to feel superior for feeling emotions to a fictional character that they would never with a real person. And given this board is filled with raging retards who live for shitflinging, the empathy discourse is even more bullshit on a stupid board like this, despite no one on this board actually reading.
Either it's fun or it's not. There is no intrinsic worth to reading fiction. It's a waste of time either way.
>>7733617
Your life is a fictional tale and you and me learn from the characters inside it. That is why you learn more about your real life from reading fiction than any biology textbook, at least good fiction that is.
>>7733815
That makes no sense.
ITT: Stories about times we met authors
>be me a while ago
>run into Stephen King in a bookstore
>Introduce myself
>Tell him that I really like some of his books
>We talk for a few minutes
>Getting pretty chummy
>I say "Your books were better when you were on drugs!"
>whole mood shifts for some reason
>King excuses himself and leaves the bookstore
Seemed a bit autistic if you ask me.
My dad writes historical fiction about Indians (feather, not red dot), so I guess I count my interactions with him.
I'm going to meet dfw soon, anyone got any messages you want me to pass on?
>>7733590
I met Jared Diamond, He was bird watching and asked me and my wife if we knew where the bird watching pamphlets were because there was no park staff working.
Is there anything I should read or know about him before jumping into his worl?
Also, start with his short stories or The Trial?
u should start with my ass whole ;)
>>7733578
start by waking up as a giant insect
>>7733578
>Is there anything I should read
Flaubert
Has anyone read this book? Opinions?
>>7733554
Sounded like racist garbage to me. I didn't bother.
Its pretty dope. I don't remember it much tho. It had a cross dressing boy or something so I'm sure most people here would like it.
>>7733566
Could you recommend some racist gold?
I want to get into op-ed article writing. Where do I start? I need some website which accepts just about any article, as long as it isn't spam or outright nonsense.
>>7733537
have you tried buzzfeed good sir?
What are some good gay books?
I remember reading a somewhat cheesey novel but I can't remember the title.
It had something to do with seasons
At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neill is the best I've read.
There's also Confessions of a Mask, The City and the Pillar, Maurice.
>>7733489
>cheesey
>to do with seasons
Vivaldi desu
>>7733505
I meant the title had something to do with it
i found this and it's quite a big book. worth the read?
>>7733412
The bigger the book the better it is, right?
>fucking faggot.
>>7733422
I think OP (while certainly a faggot) was rather implying that its length is what motivates their request for reliable 4chan opinions before jumping into it
>>7733495
basing whether or not to read something off of 4chan opinions is retarded and not worth making a thread about. what you want out of the book is a personal matter
Has your city birthed any literary greats?
Lord Byron, DH Lawrence and Alan Sillitoe grew up in my home town but they never seem to be celebrated or recognised in any way apart from a poster near the train station!
Oh my god! people ITT were born in the same city as great people! I wish I were that special
>>7733406
Not city, but I know a few who share my race and gender. Does that count? A...are we /pol/ now? Please?
>>7733413
I wanted to see if the same applies for other city's.
But now you mention it I am at a more elevated status than you, worship me plebeian! Bask in the literary glory of my forefathers!!
Does it make any difference if I choose to read anarchist books on paper or virtually?
>Reading gutter philosophy
>>7733461
Why do you think this ideology has no value?
The real problem with anarchism starts with people asking for a clear definition of what it is. There is no unity or agreement.
If Tao is finding the way of things and being in balance with your surroundings; Anarchism is finding discord chaos and imbalance, refusing to fit in or accept.
It's babbys first taste of independence, and considered shit-tier by any self-respecting thinker, why? Because most contrarian ideals have poorly formed value structures (mostly negations) and quickly become authoritarian and violent once they seize the slightest bit of power.
What are you rebelling against? You're living in the greatest age of mankind, shiny affordable handheld computers answer any question you could ever ask. Poverty and it's related diseases are close to eradicated. There are less people dying of war now that at any other point in all recorded history, despite the fact we have the largest ever global population. People are mostly free to travel, work and love as they desire.
Why be contrarian? Is it that you're reacting to some deep injustice in the world, or are you just a sour loser desperate for attention?
If you reject a system that has brought so many out of misery and into prosperity simply on moral grounds, without offering any tenable alternative, claiming only superiority of ideas, then expect to be rightly ignored.
Remember people were mocking Anarchists in the 1930s for being completely shut out by Lenin and Trotsky a decade earlier and having to flee for political asylum into the USA. Reading about this topic for anything other than historical context on the rise of the USSR seems pretty useless.
By the 1970s people stopped even bothering to pay attention.
An anarchist and a socialist are having a dinner conversation:
S: What is your favorite food?
A: I reject the construct of food, or favorites. By eating you are simply submitting to power, I will not make this concession, nor do I consent for you to do so on my behalf.
S: I like bread.
A: I hate fucking bread.
At what point does a work cross over from "emotionally powerful" to "saccharine" and "sentimental". I can kind of tell, but I want to know if there is anything more concrete to go off of than just my gut feeling.
it probably has something to do with the distinction between kitsch and sublime
It depends on the reader.
The Japanese, for instance, are particularly unconcerned with separating drama from melodrama, and so you get stuff like Kurosawa's Ran.
It's basically the difference between guilt and shame; feeling guilt is drama, expressing shame is sentimentality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame_society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt_society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melodrama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_%28style%29
A lot of that depends on the reader.
Obligatory DFW connection: Wallace thought IJ was a very sad book.
Here's what's printed in the front of my edition:
"Uproarious" -New York Times
IJ is a "wickedly comic epic"- Seattle Times
"A blockbuster comedy"- Elle
"Brashly funny" -Chicago Tribune
General consensus on lit is that it's very sad, but very funny.
I just think it's sad. But that's understandable. Not everyone gets David like I do.
