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Recommend me (your favorite) poetry, fit for a child.
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Metamorphoses, its a family tradition for me. Just gloss over the rape parts.
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>>7735987

Lewis Carroll
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The Crocodile

by Lewis Carroll
How doth the little crocodile
Improve his shining tail,
And pour the waters of the Nile
On every golden scale!

How cheerfully he seems to grin!
How neatly spread his claws,
And welcomes little fishes in
With gently smiling jaws!

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I am no where close to being able to comprehend this book but I still think it's hilarious.
As a comedy it does its job.
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is this bait?
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>>7735960

must surely brother
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>>7735960
What? No, I'm trying to have a discussion.

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>try to read Shakespeare
>realize I'm a moron
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>try to read Pynchon
>realize Im a mormon
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be patient, friend
if you keep working at it and try your very best, the texts you want to understand will become clearer and clearer
you just gotta believe in yourself :o)
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You should read Taming of the Shrew or A Midsummer Night's Dream, those have easier language.

Macbeth is also very simple.

You could actually watch the new Macbeth movie and get about the same out of it as the play, which is also very short and violent.

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rec me some late 80s.90s ironic detatchment end of history nirvana suburbia core
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>>7735907
Vineland
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>>7735983
terrible suggestion. terrible terrible suggestion.
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>>7735983
Good suggestion. Good good suggestion.

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I'm finally getting my copy of Journey West tomorrow!

I'm so fucking excited. Have any of you read it? What were your thoughts?
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>>7735905
Needs a proper modern translation. About 4/10ths of it is good, the rest seems like filler. Excellent narration if you can get past the repetition and some of the jarring bits of prose poetry.
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>>7735936
by 4/10ths I mean out of the 1000 pp unabridged version.
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>>7735905
Outlaws of the Marsh is significantly better.

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“After Shakespeare and Chaucer, Dickens vies with Jane Austen as the peopler of the world. It is all the better that so many of Dickens people are grotesques: look around you.”

was this person right, /lit/?
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anyone?
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>>7735868
Yeah Dickens wrote realism. More news at eleven
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>>7735868
>After Shakespeare and Chaucer, Dickens vies with Jane Austen

MUH ANGLOCENTRISM

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We live in ridiculous times.

He glanced up at me from the screen. He was in deep. Gone were the days when your friends might at least have bad habits that seemed outwardly cool. A cocain addiction. A cigarette hanging limply between two fingers, or behind the ear waiting to be reached. No, like most others he was simply not really here. Not really there. He didn’t exist in the three dimensional space that I did. No, he occupied a 3G space. Probably he had wet dreams about one day being able to afford to suckle from the sweet tit of an iphone.
“Mmm…yeah?”, he...
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Hey guys, here's just a short sample of an idea I'm working on. Any and all criticism is welcome.

The first part is trying to mimic the way America Psycho so effectively mimicked an awful culture. But, I'm thinking, instead of making the main character a psychotic killer - why not have him behave normally and have everyone respond to him as such. That seems more common these days. But this led me at the crux of my problem. What is the opposite of the awful vanity we see today that he can indulge in that would be exciting to read? In the extract he just...
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I like your writing style OP. There's still lots to work on, but you have an eye for details and symbolic language.

As to your question, what do you think. It's something that would be the opposite of vanity, right? What about honesty? Indulging in honesty would be kind of interesting. I'm also half worried that I did not even understand your question, though. Would you be...
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Hey, thanks. Greatly appreciated.

Yeah, that would be interesting. I want to make it as grotesque and shocking as (have you read/seen American Psycho?), to sort of drive the plot, because really I just want to lampoon all the horrible douchebags I know.

I think you understood me. I'm just sleepy as fuck. But to maybe clarify; I want to create the idea of his being social/normal as being seen as odd/disgusting by the vain characters surrounding him...

To be honest I just like writing and haven't...
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Who is the Tarkovsky of literature?
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Who is the Bergman of literature?
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>>7735788
dosty
>>7735821
strindberg, he wishes
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>>7735847
>strindberg
too easy
but true

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Whose fault do you think all the bad things that happened in Macbeth were? Was it the witches? Lady Macbeth? Or Macbeth himself? Or maybe a combination of them all?
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The seed was always in Macbeth himself. The lesson here is not to surround yourself with people that stoke your bad tendencies and give bad advice.
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Banquo.
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>>7735738
Why Banquo?

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Can a book capture 'epic'?

I'm not /lit/erate, I've read but not widely or particularly well. It looks like I'm going to get into the film industry, and something has been bugging me for a while.

I spend a lot of my time thinking about ideas, themes and imagery that I would like to explore in a visual form. Since I was a kid, I've daydreamed about these 'epic' scenes, invariably accompanied by some 'Requim for a Dream' style soundtrack.

These images are vivid and compelling. Far more so than anything filmed...
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Yes. Its called "Epic Poetry".
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>>7735709
isn't that jesus in piss?
>going to get into the film industry
so, you're jewish..

epic huh? go back to the old shit. old as you can go.
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>>7735709

>Can a book capture 'epic'?

Can a movie capture 'drama'?
Can a music capture 'sonata'?
Can a painting capture 'red'?
Can a perfume capture 'musk'?
Can a restaurant capture 'french cuisine'?

Books are where epic comes from you utter pleb

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Writers: how do you get over the embarrassment from people you know reading your writing and knowing the personal experiences and relationships that influenced you to write certain things?
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i cover myself in a veil of ironic detachment so nobody can understand when i'm being sincere and when i'm not
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You don't. You frame the writing in a way that the depiction of events would embarrass them if they dared to call you on it.
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My family isnt a reading family so it dosent even matter, only exception is my sister but she also writes so she wont care.

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Has there been an eloquent defense of elitism? Not just in literature but in general. How do you justify the idea that quality exists outside of personal opinion and that it is important. Or books generally literally justifying elites and their dominion over the lower classes. Just general authors who deal with the concept of eliteness in a positive light.

I've read Evola, watched Barton Fink, and I know of Bloom. They dealt with these topics but I'm interested in others.
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sorry for rewording the question 5 times. I am a pleby pleb born and raised btw.
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Lord Julia Ebola of Sachsen Munchausen
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Quality doesn't exist outside of personal opinion, it's just that some opinions are more authoritative than others. Fuck fags who try to hide behind their canonical taste that they can't even defend. A true patrician enjoys whatever he likes and can justify his stance when challenged.

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Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road and this moocow that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo
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>>7735645
finished the book yesterday. really beautiful
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>tfw no funny pretentious latin/philosopshy oriented friends
Currently at same age as Stephen in last part of book and it made me sad desu
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Great opening, whole book was fantastic.

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What does this symbol mean? I've seen it tattooed on an anarchist punk and in a comic mocking SJWs. Basically a compass composed of arrows.
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postmodernism probably
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It symbolises openness to adventure.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_of_Chaos

poem about wanting to be a dad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-N6Yy5xWMk

aww
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How is this poetry?
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These "Performance Poets" people keep making threads of their shitty poems, it's just spam. If warousu was working I could provide evidence of the previous threads.
Are we allowed to retaliate?
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>>7735616
I actually had a professor that made the claim that anything could be poetry. Something you may had done that day might be poetic and considered poetry. Fucking garbage.

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