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What's the point of "Young adult" literature? When I was a kid I went from kid's books to just reading "Grown up" books. Mostly in science fiction or fantasy. I never really set foot into "Young adult"

What's your experience with it? It just strikes me as weird. Like, the authors don't want to write kid's books but they're also not good enough to write "adult books" either. Somehow that's worse to me than just writing kid's books
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>>8250515
It's for normie manchildren who want to feel sophisticated for being "readers" but don't actually like reading.
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I thought it was books written by teenagers for teenagers
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It's for big dum dums

After finishing Moby-Dick I became a full-blown prosefag. I'm still a pretty new reader, but what should I read next?
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>>8250366
jesus christ what a woman. name for this sperm worm?
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Nothing else will come close to Moby-Dick.
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The Border Trilogy, if you love prose
>and tortillas

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reminder he didnt start with the greeks
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He literally did though
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He was a professor of classics whose first book was about Greek tragedy
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>start
>when Herakleitos your main man
kekekekekekekekeke

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I feel like I have a concrete understanding of existentialism, and I want to move onto another branch of philosophy. I was directed toward phenomenology so I decided that existential phenomenology should be a good introduction for me. I purchased Being and Time today and I plan on reading it, but I'm interested to hear what /lit/ thinks about Hedeigger, Being and Time, and phenomenology in general.
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>>8250153
So, you've dabbled in existentialist philosophy, and now you're going to Heidegger? Who on earth recommended that you should do that?
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What are you asking?
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>>8250153
Heidegger is incredible, I'm also reading being and time.

It's far more dense and "real" philosophy (a la Kant) than any of the main existentialist guys though, so be ready for metaphysics.

In fact, I highly recommend you go through his short essay "What is Metaphysics" before you begin Being and Time.

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What are some great books about sexuality?

Thus far I've read Funeral Rites and Our Lady of Flowers by Genet, Story of the Eye by Bataille, The Lover by Duras, some works here and there by WS Burroughs, but that's it.

I've heard very good things about Peter Sotos. The main theme of the book doesn't necessarily have to be sexual, but as I'm trying to write a semierotic bildungsroman myself, I'd like to crib from the best. Is John Hawkes good? I remember seeing a chart reccing Blood Orange and The Lime Twig among other things.

tl;dr...
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50 Shades of Grey
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The Happy Hooker, by Xaviera Hollander
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Academic reminder that eroticism and sex aren't the same thing.

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Advise me English literature about noble girl's youth. Like Estella in Great Expectations.
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A Little Princess and The Secret Garden
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>>8249832
thx, is there anything else? in particular, I want to know about the noble education system.
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>>8249941
There wasn't much for girls. What you might like is Mary Wollstonecraft who outlined why upper class women should be educated (and not be allowed near the pleb women) in The Vindication of the Rights of Women.

Both of Hodgson Burnett's books are closer to what upper class women's education would consist of with occasional tutoring (Secret Garden) or a boarding school at home in England while their parents were abroad (A Little Princess).

If you want to know about the noble education in...
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since we do have one thread to contain the anglos let us post the poems we remember in the other languages here.
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Pavana del hoy para una infanta difunta que amo y lloro

A Alejandra Pizarnik

Pequeña centinela,
caes una vez más por la ranura de la noche
sin más armas que los ojos abiertos y el terror
contra los invasores insolubles en el papel en blanco.
Ellos eran legión.
Legión encarnizada era su nombre
y se multiplicaban a medida que tú te destejías hasta el último hilván,
arrinconándote contra las telarañas voraces de la nada.
El que cierra los ojos se convierte en morada de todo el universo.
El que los abre traza las fronteras y permanece a la intemperie.
El que pisa la raya no encuentra su lugar.
Insomnios como túneles para probar la inconsistencia de toda realidad;
noches y noches perforadas por una sola bala que te incrusta en lo oscuro,
y el mismo ensayo de reconocerte al despertar en la memoria de la muerte:
esa perversa tentación,
ese ángel adorable con hocico de cerdo.
¿Quién habló de conjuros para contrarrestar la herida del propio nacimiento?
¿Quién habló de sobornos para los emisarios del propio porvenir?
Sólo había un jardín: en el fondo de todo hay un jardín
donde se abre la flor azul del sueño de Novalis.
Flor cruel, flor vampira,
más alevosa que la trampa oculta en la felpa del muro
y que jamás se alcanza sin dejar la cabeza o el resto de la sangre en el umbral.
Pero tú te inclinabas igual para cortarla donde no hacías pie,
abismos hacia adentro.
Intentabas trocarla por la criatura hambrienta que te deshabitaba.
Erigías pequeños castillos devoradores en su honor;
te vestías de plumas desprendidas de la hoguera de todo posible paraíso;
amaestrabas animalitos peligrosos para roer los puentes de la salvación;
te perdías igual que la mendiga en el delirio de los lobos;
te probabas lenguajes como ácidos, como tentáculos,
como lazos en manos del estrangulador.
¡Ah los estragos de la poesía cortándote las venas con el filo del alba,
y esos labios exangües sorbiendo los venenos de la inanidad de la palabra!
Y de pronto no hay más.
Se rompieron los frascos.
Se astillaron las luces y los lápices.
Se degarró el papel con la desgarradura que te desliza en otro
laberinto.
Todas las puertas son para salir.
Ya todo es el revés de los espejos.
Pequeña pasajera,
sola con tu alcancía de visiones
y el mismo insoportable desamparo debajo de los pies:
sin duda estás clamando por pasar con tus voces de ahogada,
sin duda te detiene tu propia inmensa sombra que aún te sobrevuela en busca de otra,
o tiemblas frente a un insecto que cubre con sus membranas todo el caos,
o te amedrenta el mar que cabe desde tu lado en esta lágrima.
Pero otra vez te digo,
ahora que el silencio te envuelve por dos veces en sus alas como un manto:
en el fondo de todo jardín hay un jardín.
Ahí está tu jardín,
Talita cumi.

by Olga Orozco
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>>8249591
k chido wey
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Ich weiss nicht was soll es bedeuten,
dass ich so traurig bin?
ein Märchen aus ur-alten Zeiten,
das kommt mir nicht aus dem Sinn.
Die Luft ist kühl und es dunkelt
Und ruhig fließt der Rhein,
Des Berges Gipfelt funkelt,
Im Abendsonnenschein.
Das schönste Fräulein sitzet
dort oben wunderbar.
Ihr gold'nes Geschmeide blitzet
Sie kämmt ihr goldenes Haar.
Sie kämmt es mit goldenem Kamme
Und singt ein Lied dabei.
Es hat eine wundersame,
gewalt'ge Melodei.
Dem Schiffer im kleinem Schiffe
ergreift es mit wildem Weh.
Er...
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post some real-life tragic heroes, someone who could BE in A Shakespeare play, dog
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the monkey that got left at ikea
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>>8249558
geert wilders
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>>8249571
I didn't say real life Patrick Bateman
>>8249572
yes

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What book would you like to turn into a film, who would you hire to direct it and who would you cast? I like to see the kinds of people others imagine when reading. Sorry for the potato quality, I had a template but lost it
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Why would you want a hack like Nolan to direct it?
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Phenomenology of spirit directed by james franco
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Crime and Punishment starring Christian Bale, directed by Wes Andersen.

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Has anyone here read Industrial Society and It's Future. I thought it was pretty neat and want to know more works that reject technology and modernism.
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>>8248632
It's too late and I don't know what to do.
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>>8248625
>creating art to react against and reject the state of society
>not creating art for art's sake
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>>8248625
I think he's wrong. Technology makes our live easier. Sure, some are excluded, and technological progress also gets abused, but in general the world's getting better every day.
Nevertheless, he made some interesting points and encourages you to think instead of just consume.

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Has a woman ever written a masterpiece?
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The Making of Americans by Gertrude Stein
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>>8248595
yes, please stop posting this thread now
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mój cień jest kobietą
odkryłam to na ścianie
on się uśmiechał falistością linii
i ptak bioder o zwiniętych skrzydłach
na gałęzi uśmiechu śpiewał


drzewo kwitnące
obwieszone zielonymi papugami
poprzez skrzydła
pomarańcza złota dojrzałość
słońce na kroplach połyska
w deszczu
proste i nagie drzewo
moje usta uchylone piersi

wschodzący księżyc rzęs zamigotał
i zgasł
gdy zdmuchnąłeś zapałki płomień
i oparłeś na ramionach moich dłonie
mój cień był kobietą
nim zniknął

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are self-help books just a meme?

if not, what are your favorite self-help books?
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Yes they are a meme. LMAO if you read this garbage.
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Meditations is the only self-help book worthwile
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>>8248552

The self-help genre is basically a watered-down version of New Thought, which is a water-down Hermeticism.

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>your favorite book
>when a cute girl asks
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cute girls don't talk to me
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>>8248097
>>your favorite book
The Twelve Chairs.
>>when a cute girl asks
*if but it'd be the same
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>Ulysses
>Ulysses

And that's how i found my fiancé

Gee, maybe lying and pretending to be someone you're not is fucking stupid

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Which author have you read the most books from? Don't lie

>John Green
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John Red
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probably tylo be chillin really it's JK Rowling
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Scott Bakker
then John Hawkes, I think

>tfw 4chan has completely ruined your attention span
>tfw you will never live the literary lifestyle
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I have the same problem. is there a
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>>8248141
no there's no
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>tfw time travel to the 1920s is literally impossible
>tfw you will never live the literary lifestyle

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