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Rate my poem, /lit/.
It's called "The Masketta Man".


...Will you not speak? Then you shall die,
"Not good" 's how I'd describe you fly.
The next among you I shall ask:
Bane! Why does he wear the mask?

Your silence is both strange and bold,
For one who fights for naught but gold.

Perhaps the man does simply wonder,
Why, before you'd throw him yonder,
You would shoot him in the head,
And cast him out when he is dead.

Finally a man here who can speak,
You may be the one I seek.
Tell...
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7.5/10
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I can't be doin' with this.
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Hey guys just got here from /pol/

I really want to read more because I feel like it will make me more well read, but then whenever I sit down and try to read, I find I'd rather be shitposting on the internet.

Any advice?

I'm supposed to be reading Gravity's Rainbow atm.
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>>8006727
I don't see how this addresses my problem.
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>>8006727
CHOP CHOP TREE BOY -.-

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How do you come up with story ideas that aren't shit/overdone?
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luck
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>>8006674
by being a good fucking writer
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>>8006674
come up w/ idea -> research tvtropes for similar works -> refine idea -> research tvtropes for similar works focusing on fine details -> refine idea further -> research tvtropes for similar works focusing on finer details -> refine idea even further -> research tvtropes for similar works focusing on even finer details -> give up -> lurk tvtropes

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Hey /lit/, what's your favorite PoMo? I finished pic related over Christmas break last year and I highly recommend it.
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>>8006672
Baker's great. If you liked The Mezzanine, I recommend Ibid. by Mark Dunn
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>>8006764
sounds fantastic, thanks
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i always think back to the part where he describes displaying objects on a clean white surface. the way he talks about the straw, milk containers, and bags and whatnot is a similar process imo. taking something mundane/insignificant seeming and magnifying it, highlighting its intricacies.

after i finished it made me reappraise the things i encountered in day to day life that i'd overlooked previously (since childhood probably).

its a very calming book to me.

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How can anyone say Hemingway is better than this guy? Faulkner shits all over Hemingway. Faulkner shits all over nearly everyone in the 20th Century. The only one better than him is Joyce.
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>>8006665
As far as corn-cobby chroniclers go, there are none better.
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>>8006665
>How can anyone say Hemingway is better than this guy?
Never heard anyone say that.

>The only one better than him is Joyce.
Eh, I think Beckett is above Faulkner.
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>>8006665
Faulkner is great--really, really great--but, even so, I think that is kind of a ridiculous claim to make, especially when you consider all the authors you haven't read, like Orlovitz, or Coover, or Gaddis, who are all just as great as themselves as Joyce was as himself.

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What are some other comfy books. I can't explain why this book is so comfy, maybe it's because the characters interactions and being alone on a long stretch of road
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>It's a "No one participates in your thread" chapter.
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>>8006662
This is my favorite Stephen King book by far, haven't read it in years tho. I wouldn't call it comfy however, the whole concept freaks me out. What did you think of the ending OP? I found it pretty depressing.
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>>8007534
I haven't got to the ending. I'm at the part where they've made it through the first night, it is not dawn

I read like half the book in one sitting though. It is so engrossing.

I don't know which other board to ask this, but since you guys are "/aesthetic/: the board", let me put it here.

Is graffiti a regressive and thus degenerate art form or not? Like a return to cave painting?
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>>8006648
Kind of.

"Graffiti" and "Street art" are two different things. People have made decent shit on the sides of buildings and whatnot with spray paint. While technically graffiti, I'd classify it differently (street art).

Continuing in that vein, "graffiti" is writing words on a wall, which can be viewed as narcissistic, regressive, and degenerate since typically you are not making any statement besides "I made this."
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Cave paintings were probably the Sistine Chapel for early humans.

Graffiti doesn't really regress to anything in my opinion because it seems to me that people have always done it. It's neither a step forward or step back I guess is what I'm trying to say.
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>>8006653

Right. I should have called it "street art" instead of graffiti, since graffiti is more atemporal than street art, with obvious examples already present in Pompeii and before.

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would you read a book about a guy who writes people's suicide notes for a living?
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>>8006523
yeah
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Depends on the angle.

If it's funny then yeah, but if it's "seriously depressing" then no.
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That sounds more like a short story. But idk thats pretty heavy handed and fundamentally manipulative

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Is it a common thing that other countries have their own "copies" of the famous writers? For example, some say that Pelevin is a Russian Pynchon (or poor man's Pynchon). His literary style and even his life-style shows some similarity.
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>>8006521
I think pelevin is decidedly more sci-fi than pynchon
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Just wondering, what location are you from?
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>>8006574
I live in Helsinki, but born in midwest USA. i can't read Russian if that's what you're getting at...

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Maybe somebody could recommend a writer similar to this? I have really enjoyed reading the Molloy trilogy, probably one of the best books I've ever read.
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Tulse Luper
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>>8006492
I mean, if you want minimalism, there is Ernest Hemingway, Cormac McCarthy, and Fredrick Barthelme, but no does Beckett even close to as good as Beckett.
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>>8006511
Thanks. I don't like Hemingway for some reason. Will have a look into the other writers.

I don't really know what minimalism is. I am a bit a brute of literature :). Gombrowicz was in some parts similar to Beckett to me.

It's hard to explain. I like books where nothing appears to make sense, but then everything makes perfect sense. Borges in some of his stories can be like that, but in my understanding Borges is very gentle and humane.

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This topic might not be especially suited for this board and if so I apologize but considering it's the de facto philosophy one, it seems suitable enough.
So this morning I was visited by a couple of Jehovah's witnesses and whilst being considerably high, I talked to them for a while. They asked me if I believe that god has a name and I said I wouldn't know since I'm agnostic and I'm not even sure of god's existence.
"If such a being exists, given the apparent indifference witnessed in nature I think it would be more akin to Lovecraft's Azathoth: the blind idiot god, the nuclear chaos, rather than our wishful benevolent conceptions of it" I did not say.
Instead I simply said that their booklet seems "interesting" and that they wouldn't bother me if they visited again tomorrow to ask me my thoughts on it.

So fuck it! Instead of telling them to fuck off I guess I'm gonna have at least some fun and debate/troll(?) them since my stupid high self initiated this. So, I come to you for suggestions on things to say. Not the classic ad nauseum arguments we all know and convince nobody (what does?) but something.. interesting? fun? Like that Azathoth thing. I trust 4chan's imagination.

>tl;dr Jehovah's witnesses visit due. Asking for suggestions on trolling, paradoxical or fun (for me) arguments.
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>>8006392
just talk to them like a normal human being and tell them to leave once you get bored
also, gtfo
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>>8006392
>Jehovah's Witness
>posts a picture of Mormons

You won't get anywhere with them nor have a meaningful conversation. Put your fedora back on and finish that glass of Mountain Dew.
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Ask them about holy war, why god killed milions of innocent peoples in Moses times just because of other religion they believed (and they had no idea about "only true god anyway)

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Hi /lit/ lads, I got no idea where to get an appropriate opinion on English books and I have a lot of esteem for you all.

Has anyone read Moran's short books?

Did you like them? Did you like the guy before (standup, Black Book, etc)?

anything about it goes in
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>>8006380
Holy shit he wrote short stories?! Ive been saying he should for years. As someone influenced by Flann O'Brian, coupled with his own surreal humour, I'd be very interested.

Link me
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>>8006380
>>8006413
forgot linkz
http://dylanmoran.firebrandstores.com/
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Get a brain Moran

>Gene Wolfe said, "magic realism is fantasy written by people who speak Spanish"
>Terry Pratchett said magic realism "is like a polite way of saying you write fantasy."

Are they right?
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>>8006299
Marquez isn't fantasy, he's unreliable narrators!
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>>8006299
>Gene Wolfe said
>Terry Pratchett said
there's your answer.

I'm pretty sure they're both just jealous that Marquez got the "magical realism" label and they didn't because they're shit writers compared to him.
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>>8006299

Fantasy nerds hate magical realism though. They like wizards and kings and shit and when they try to read 100 Years they get bored and read GRRM.

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/lit/ things that make you sad:

I found out that my two favorite authors, Philip K. Dick and Stanislaw Lem, hated each other. Lem considered Dick the only American author worth a damn, so he wrote him a fan letter. Dick thought Lem was a communist spy trying to get him, so he reported Lem to the FBI.
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>>8006215
lem didn't hate dick, as you wrote yourself. and as much as i like pkd, he was an asshole to a lot of people, e.g thomas disch, or some of his wives.
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what a dick
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Total dick

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This book surprised me, it was actually quite good. Any of you read it? What did you think? Would love to dicuss.
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Henry James is one of the greatest prose writers ever, a true patrician's choice. Read "Portrait of a Lady" next, it's a real joy.
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>>8006213
thats my current read. its really good.
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>>8006213
I wasn't that impressed with the prose to be honest: It felt like his attempt to frequently dim certain details went beyond his intention of demonstrating victorian values and just made following the dialogue annoying. What really caught my attention was the design of the ghosts as an "intruder" element by stripping down the concept. And the kids' relationship with the Governess.

Will be Portrait of a Lady, sounds promising.

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