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Have any of you actually read this? I'm really struggling in a way I have never struggled before.

I'll probably good look up some summaries (something I've never done before) and then try to go back to the book.

This is honestly a first for me because literally everything comes easy to me. I'm studying physics and some of the concepts are difficult at first but I soon as I put effort in I can get a hold of pretty much anything and none of it seems hard.

I've been putting that effort in to this and still can barely understand what...
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>>8104910
Is this your first attempt at philosophy?
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>>8104910
Yes, read "Kant's Transcendental Idealism" by Henry Allison:

http://uwch-4.humanities.washington.edu/Tautegory/EBOOKS/KANT/CAMBRIDGE-EDITION/Secondary/Kant's%20Transcentendal%20Idealism_An%20Interpretation%20and%20Defense%20(YUP%202004)%20-%20H.E.%20Allison.pdf
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>>8104917
I been reading philosophy since high school but it was always just whatever piqued my interest. So things where definitely out of order, for example: I read Nietzsche before Aristotle.

I've only been on /lit/ for about a year.

Anyone specific I should look into to help me understand Kant?

>>8104923
Thanks.

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Reminder that Libra is the most perfectly balanced novel ever written.
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Why do you say that?
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Sure, but not in spanish indeed
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whats his best?

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Has /lit/ read this book, is this any good or just a bunch of fluff?
Like would it help me in any way? Thinking of buying it
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>Angela

Dropped
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>self-help trash
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>>8104765
Bu...but anon, she's a professor of psychology, she's won many awards for her contributions, it's not like it's written by some junkrat like pic related

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Books that people either love or hate.

Pic related. Hated it!
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I don't think it is a very bood gook but I didn't hate it
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>>8104698
op's hypothesis: btfo
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Shut this shit down

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Hi /lit/

Has any one here been following the Escortbro saga on /r9k/ ?

Some people think he's from this board and just trolling us for whatever reason. What do you guys think?

Thread 1: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28427858/
Thread 2: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28473632/
Thread 3: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28563840/
Thread 4: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28588279/
Thread 5: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28634920/
Thread 6: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28681400/
Thread 7: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/28745482/
Thread...
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I'm not reading through that shit, just give me the tl;dr.
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>>8104525
>KHV visits an 18 yo escort
>pays her 220 euros but they just talk and hold hands for two hours
>she texts him afterwards and he spergs out thinking she likes him
>he organizes another date and they eat pizza and stuff
>she acts like she wants to kiss him but he spergs out and doesn't react
>they go to the cinema and return to...
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>>8104538
It's not Ireland, he writes like ESL and the country he's in doesn't seem to fit.

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Post your bookshelves, I guess.

Sorry if this is too meta a discussion for /lit/, I don't come here very often.
I have recently started a small collection of books, always used my kindle before that.
To support myself while I study I took a job in a distribution centre for a number of charity shops, and one of the perks is that I can keep any interesting books that people donate, so I'm quickly building a collection.

Is there any good way to arrange them?
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>time flies by bill cosby
patrician
i started crying when he talks about his son beating him in a race
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what's on the bottom shelf? what are you hiding?
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It's pretty obvious you are just collecting books for your shelf and not to actually ready them.

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I don't get it? What's supposed to be so difficult about this book? Everyone says it's impossible to follow, but it clearly slaps you in the face with clues to what's going on. I thought it was a great piece of literature, but I fail to see how it's THAT challenging.
Am I missing something?
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>>8104353
No, it's pretty easy. Especially since it's pretty short. It's just like the Infinite Jest or Moby Dick is difficult meme. People just say that because that was the only book they've read besides YA trash, they're retarded, or they want people to give them credit for reading "le difficult book!" To be completel honest, there aren't many books that are difficult to read. Literature overall doesn't compare in difficulty to hard science like physics. It simply doesn't...
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>>8104353
No clue, but I'll cop it tomorrow based on your recs. Do I read sound of fury or as i lay dying first?
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>>8104376
Either is good to start actually. Just read SatF, it's better.

Any Russian lit aficionados here?

What are /lit/'s thoughts about Pelevin, Tolstaya, Sorokin ,Olga Slavnikova, Lyudmila Ulitskaya.

It seems to me that a fascinating mix of strange authors came about after the Glasnost era that combine "weird fiction" with the old Russian novel. I know Sorokin is well received in the West , and for a good reason too, his books are amazing. I haven't read Pelevin yet, but he seems to be the Russian version of Pynchon.
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That quote is very true
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>>8104291
>That quote is very true

if that is the case, then all philosophical categories and intuitions are built in the human conscience, which may be incapable of talking about them, but able to live through them?
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>>8104308
Yea. The experiences were there long before the terms ever existed.

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Which parts should I edit?

Does anyone have any input that can help me? I'm doing this to the song slippin by dmx

Blank expressions behind a smile
More resent held when nigguhs tryna style
I keep my hopes up but is it worthwhile
Tears run long like the river nile
I deal with problems head on no time to face denial
Another lone soul in the jungle of the wild
They tryna take me for a ride but fuck a curisile
Yes I walk with God but do we walk miles
I'm tripping I'm stallin I gotta come up
Keep flippin ballin I can't...
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>>8104260
Thanks for once again confirming that hip hop is a disgrace to both literature and music. My advice is to stop listening to the laziest and least creative genre in pop music history and fuck off back to your containment board
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>>8104287
-Trump supporter

Would appreciate constructive feedback
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>>8104260
>durrr ooh ooh aah aah monkey noises
>>>/trash/
fuck off back to africa and take your boo wop doo wop deebie deebie skeebie deebie shit with you. You are shit encrusted asshole of Western civilization.

In todays society, it is considered a legitimate critique to criticize a writers upbringing. Usually these authors are upper class, white, and "privileged" if you will.

This is a result of multiculturism. The mindset at the moment is to encourage outsider voices from the under represented in society.

But haven't most writers throughout history in any given age been the product of an upperclass upbringing? Can wealth really be a valid critique of a persons work if most revered works in the western cannon been from "privileged" writers?

Also,...
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>>8104074
bump
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>>8104074
>In short, should wealth be really be considered a valid critique of a writers work?
no
should it be an important consideration for the context of their work when discussing it
yes
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticity_in_art

It's not a matter solely of upbringing ("You are rich, therefore your art has no worth/greater worth"), it's a matter of how that upbringing relates to the work of art. Can we as a society trust a rich white man from Manhattan to write artfully and truthfully about a ghetto black from Chicago? If we can trust them to do it, then should we even allow/encourage them, since that kind of encouragement could just as easily be spent on actual ghetto black writers? If the aim is to encourage outsider voices,...
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>got into lit. because I was lonely
>discovered my interest in art history, philosophy, classicism, modernity, cultural studies, rhetoric and poetry
>feel infinitely more lonesome from seeing how illiterate everyone in my life and community is

I've realized the only solution is to begin applying to ivy-league schools as a hail-mary applicant and begin a blog writing articles on these subjects to solidify my comprehension of the material plus some responses to sensational...
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If you do that, keep in mind you probably suck ass way more than you realize. You're gonna be missing all these little "tells" that show you're a Real University Guy. Get someone in the know, on the inside, to vet your applications and anything you write. Also read a lot more than they do.
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my only friends are dead authors but thats not because I'm smarter than everyone around me and no one is interested in reading what I like rather it's a quirk or defect in my own personality. It's easy to form connections and discuss common interests with people but to care for someone, to commit myself to loving a friend or a girl is something I'm not able to do.
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>>8104024
I completely relate. I don't think it's a defect, I just feel we haven't yet met anyone that we sincerely believe can captivate our attention in the way that love suggests. I've had a lot of transitory friends and lovers. It's pretty common for young and intelligent people to be less stationary.
>>8104023
I have people for all of this. It's been well considered. I basically just want to convert my introverted proclivities into something...
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I really struggle to follow whats going on unless its Keats. Every poem from Homer to Goethe I get completely lost or feel like i'm not experiencing their full potential.

What should I do lit? Is there some interpretative technique I should use? Do I "get gud"? Is it just about experiencing the prose and ideas the author is weaving and I should just relax? Should I just read more poems and get used to how they are written?

Pic related, not sure if its strictly a poem but its my personal final boss
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>>8104007

You are inexperienced and also have low intelligence.
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>>8104007
>their full potential
They don't have it. Poetry is literally shit.
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>>8104010
>>8104015
Not helping guys. Im too experienced with novels and short stories, please help

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how did the new Delillo book treat everyone
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>>8103954
>reading trust fund baby bullshit
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>>8103957
what other contemporary stuff is worth reading
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this is for underworld. should I even read it?

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Anyone else like this book, and Jean Genet? Only other thing I've read by him is Flowers of Evil. It's actually pretty hard to continuously read his work, as I find it takes a rather painful amount of concentration to stay with the thread.

Nevertheless, I also find it to be pretty ridiculously talented writing. I'm a complete heterosexual, but in Genet's writing I am able to really get a grasp of the pleasure of what it means to be homosexual, and to appreciate the bodies, forms, and sexuality of other men. Beyond that, his ideas, style, and elaborations...
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>>8103882
>I'm a complete heterosexual, but in Genet's writing I am able to really get a grasp of the pleasure of what it means to be homosexual, and to appreciate the bodies, forms, and sexuality of other men.
nigga u gay
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>>8103887
Yeah, I saw that comment coming, but ... you have to seriously read it yourself to see what I'm talking about. It's not like I get a hard on when reading Genet, but he is so open towards his homosexuality, and he reveals it in such an original way, that it's impossible not to respect what's going on in those scenes. I mean, in QoB, there's a scene where Querelle gets rammed by Nono, this sort of weird stereotypical brothel owner, and it's the gayest fucking thing in the world, he shoots...
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>>8103919
>actually being this gay
>disengaged his balls
>his cock flipped up against his belly with a smack
>actually being this gay
>actually reading this

Time to kill yourself anon.

>Total silence reigned in the room

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Best translation?
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>>8103879
>translation
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>tfw you will never be a supportive boyfriend to Franz as he comes out of the closet to his father
>tfw you will never witness his Dad going berserk while Franz climbs under the living room crouch yelling "I'm just a cockroach, I roach for cocks, I'm just a cockroach, I roach for cocks" over and over
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>>8103879
Why does he look Indian?

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