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I see everywhere on /lit/ people degrading genre fiction. As a dumbass, I was wondering what is wrong with said genre fiction
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Don't take it seriously.
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>>7398778
hohoho you are a cheeky m8
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It won't do very much to help you in your quest to the top of the literary mountain except to sustain your basic passion for words and stories. Do whatever you want, mang.

Fill in the blanks. You can fill in blanks with more than one word if you wish:

>"There are two kinds of writers, those that __________ and those that ___________"
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Revise. The word is revise.
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>>7398728

write

say they write
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>>7398728
>those that
start with the Greeks
>and those that
read genre fiction pleb-tier garbage shite

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Just finished Trial by Kafka. Can't figure out what to think of it. Share your opinions please.


Is spoiler supported?
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I read it two days ago. I definitely liked it however I'd honestly only give it 8/10. Something about the work just makes me feel claustrophobic particularly with the copious descriptions of the court and offices.
Is there any translation aside from the muir which is good?
I loved the 'ending' and the dog scene though.
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An all time favorite. You will enjoy it much more on your second read.

I think the opening line: Someone must have slandered Josef K (...)
lays it all on the table for you. While I think it's best to avoid rigid allegory when talking about Kafka I think there is definitely an element of equality between K. and the courts in this book, whether that's to mean the courts are tipped off by his peers, run by his equals, or only in the sense that even the highest member of the highest order of high court is still a man - perhaps a dog - like K.
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>>7398695
> Something about the work just makes me feel claustrophobic particularly with the copious descriptions of the court and offices.
Agreed.

> Is there any translation aside from the muir which is good?
I read czech translation which seemed to be good. I especially liked very long sentences.

> I loved the 'ending' and the dog scene though.

Why was he executed?


I'd also give it 8/10.

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Has anybody on 4chan read this book? What do you think of it?
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Just finished. Is it good?
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I remember that interview he did with Hitchens where he got raped
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>>7398647
I've never listened to it, but the summary on RationalWiki (a mostly atheist website) makes it sound like Hitchens loses.

>“What if God did come to this earth in the flesh of Jesus Christ, and he took the punishment from you which you deserve, what if this is true would that be the greatest kindness gift to your life and the world?” Hitchens says no, he does not want anyone dying for him and would seek to have him prevented for sacrificing himself. Todd says “if that did happen, wouldn't it be an act of kindness?” Hitchens answers no, it takes away his free will and gives him no choice but to bad, the son already died and now he [Hitchens] is committed. Todd begins to plea with Hitchens to admit that it would be an act of kindness, but Hitchens does not give in and his answer remains the same. Hitchens notes that he already addresses this in his book, and Todd is not asking something new. Hitchens does not think it is an act of kindness, it is a tyrannical act. Todd asks “you think it is tyrannical that someone sacrificed themselves for you?' Hitchens replies “according to you, he didn't. He was alive again shortly after.” Todd says he did die and we celebrate it called Easter, which has been going on for thousands of years – Hitchens adds in “to no effect.” He was supposed to come back during the time of his listeners, that was a direct promise, and he did not keep it.

He sounds like a child trying to disagree with everything his mom says. Here's how it ends.

>Todd asks Hitchens if the reason he wars against god is so he can live his life autonomously and live his life anyway he wished without being accountable to his creator? Hitchens answers it may be highly probable. And with that, Todd ends the interview.

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>Shadow had done three years in prison. He was big enough, and looked don’t-fuck-with-me enough that his biggest problem was killing time. So he kept himself in shape, and taught himself coin tricks, and thought a lot about how much he loved his wife.
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>>7398562
, and?
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>Shadow

Gets me every time.
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>>7398562
>>7398572
>shadow

...the hedge hog?

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>David Foster Wallace played by Seth Rogen
>David Lipsky played by James Franco
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>David Foster Wallace played by Jeff Daniels
>David Lipsky played by Jim Carrey
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>DFW played by the 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates
>David Lipsky played by the orangutan from 'Every Which Way But Loose'
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>David Foster Wallace played by Burt Reynolds
>David Lipsky played by Cher

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Is there a more attractive writer?
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Looks like he's taken a few in the fanny. Removed from my backlog.

Thanks, OP.
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>>7398507
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Me honestly. I may not be famous but I blow that faggot out the water in the looks department

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Has anyone actually learned a language just to read books that are in that language? Is it worth it? Does it improve your native language writing skills?
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sometimes jokes work better in the native language. Sometimes it doesn't matter.
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>>7398445
i learned english just to shitpost here.
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>>7398445
I'm learning French primarily to read Proust. I'll let you know if it's worth it once I progress a little more.

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Alright you faggots, I'm starting Infinite Jest. Is it suggested to get one of those reader's guides too? They seemed unnecessary and kind of pricy.
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I don't think a reader's guide is worth it. Realistically its a fairly simple book. Just requires multiple reads.
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Totally unnecessary, like yeah there's a few cool Borges references here or there but it's not complicated prose (for the most part, certain segments on math or in vernacular can be a little tough but nothing that would ruin a first-read through). Guides pretty much just feed you trivial information which is only cool to know if it becomes your favorite book or something.
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It's the most clearly written book you'll ever read besides The Stranger. You just have to get past the early-ish ebonics chapters. It's just long. There are no tricks to it.

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ITT write an ode to the beauty and elegance of a girl's foot
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>>7398289
qt
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>>7398301
thx
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I thought her legs were a dick at first
but alas it was even worse
they were the legs of a grill
"Ew! You're like a brother to me!"
*hits me with her purse*

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/lit/ i'm having an existential crisis. Everything I wanna do I suck at, and everything i'm good at, its worthless. Should I really study for an English degree? All my friends support me on it because they think i'm some genius but they don't even no the first thing about literature. My family always keep telling me to do something useful but i'm just so jaded with my life and who I am and what the whole point of anything is right now. I've thought about taking a semester off but i'll be wasting my financial aid if I do and I'm really...
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>Should I really study for an English degree?

Not if you want your life to go anywhere. What are you good at?
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>>7398263
Start with the Greeks.
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>worthless
Sure is spooky in here

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Well this is depressing.
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It's actually very inspiring, you normie pleb-shit
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>>7398191
can't it be both?
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>>7398182
I got about half way through before dismissing it as unrepentant edgelordism.

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What is /lit/'s opinion on this book? I'm probably about to read it all the way through.

A little background about myself. I was born and raised a southern Baptist and up until when I was about 15 I was a very very strict Christian. Not the mean type but the "nice guy" Christian. Around when I was 15 I started to question my own beliefs. I soon came to the conclusion that I was an agnostic thiest. I floated through life until now where I want to find a purpose. So here I am going to read it for myself as an adult instead of a child to judge it myself....
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Also am I wrong to kinda not trust modern translations and even the king James version? I feel like there could be outside forces that wanted to translate them how they wanted.
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>>7398114
For the Qur'an, Sayyid Hossein Nasr recently released a Study Qur'an that's supposedly very good and will be used as a standard by Western academics. Basically intro stuff from what I've read about it. No Arabic is within it but it's better to listen to the Arabic than attempt to read it or its transliteration if you don't know Arabic.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Study-Quran-Translation-Commentary/dp/0061125865
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>>7398139
Thanks. Anyone recommend any other religious books that I should read also?

The Book Of Mormon?

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Hey fellow Aussie /lit/fags. I'm going to transfer into Secondary Teaching, Majoring in Arts. Any of you out there in this line of work? I know it's not the most glamorous, but Australian teachers are some of the highest paid teachers in the world. Plus I love Literature, so being able to focus on that, but teaching at a high school level (ain't rocket science) would be good for me.

Also, the ability to travel overseas to South East Asian countries teaching English, or any other foreign country for that matter, greatly attracts me to the degree.

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kek
>life decisions
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>>7398071
I've also given it some thought purely for the economic security aspect of teaching. From what I understand you get in, join the union and from then on so long as you don't hit or molest a kid you've got a reasonably well paid job for the rest of your life.
I've been poor and it sucks arse, being a teacher might not be so bad.
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before you become a secondary school teacher, listen to every song This Is Serious Mum ever wrote. most of the guys in that band were secondary school teachers, and their hatred for teenagers drips from every note.

>Australian teachers are some of the highest paid teachers in the world


that's like saying "Australian homeless are some of the highest paid homeless in the world"

> Plus I love Literature, so being able to focus on that, but teaching at a high school level (ain't rocket...
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>you spend Friday night reading Sartre
>she screams for Chad to fuck her harder
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Animals gon' animal.
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>>7397961
you need a
>still pay for the abortion
for this joke to work.
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>>7397961
>FSAD ROG

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