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What are some books that will make me more intelligent/alter my thought process to be more logical?
Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
>books that will make me more X
Just stop. Saged
The Lovejoy approach.
So most of my reading has been genre fiction (fantasy/sci-fi). Trying to explore a bit more into non fiction, i don't really know where to start though. I have read the sticky which has a lot of good recommendation but it presumes you know what you're looking for to a degree.
Looking for some beginner philosophy or insights of life kind of stuff, however it seems very daunting to people inexperienced in this stuff. So any recommendations for beginners?
it seems like a lot of this stuff has a pseudo reading order to it and i don't want to start in a bad place
>>7585411
start by READING THE FUCKING WIKI YOU ILLITERATE NORMIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7585411
discourses of epictetus
Also some information. I am 19 and not too smart, just looking to broaden my perspective somewhat. From the sticky the category that intrigues me most was "Aphoristic", but again, i don't know where to start. Any suggestions appreciated (nothing too advanced).
So I saw A Clockwork Orange in a bookstore and picked it up on a whim, been reading it and holy shit, is it good. It may be one of the best books I've read in the last five years just for its prose and language. Every line positively bristles with raucous vitality and rhytm, reading it it's like dancing to percussive no wave ballads of batons hitting concrete.
I've rarely seen prose this good and lively and fluid before, the only likely candidates I can think about are Burroughs, HST, maybe some of Welsh's stuff and a few bits of DFW. Do you guys have...
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>>7585355
>17 years old
Concerns
>>7585483
Is that an indictment of my taste or are you talking about something else
>>7585355
I really hope this is elaborate bate
Sup /lit/,
How do you celebrate when you've finished your book? I'm drinking wine and eating chicken right now as we speak. It's a piece of shit YA sci-fi (pic unfortunately not related), but damn, it's my book. Gonna finish this bottle and eat this fuckin' chicken YUM-TASTIC.
>>7585324
Whenever i used to finish a short i used to drink and smoke and have my own private party. Now i don't smoke or drink much..
But the feeling of elation is well worth the toil.
>chicken and wine
Let's talk about the kind of chicken and the kind of wine. Also, tell me about your book.
>>7585331
The chicken is just the cheapest sort of broiler cooked inside a bag with some turnip, carrots and onion. The wine is a Terra Cruz Cabernet Sauvignon 2014 year "vintage", a Chilean red wine which cost me only 3 euros.
The chicken is still cooking so we have to wait a bit.
My book is about five teenagers sent to Earth so they could send something from Earth to the outer space colony. Meanwhile the world (which has been ravaged by wars and disease) blames the teenagers on shit that they aren't...
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place your bets, lads.
>>7585190
Unfortunately, this man.
It's you, OP. You're next.
>>7585190
Delil is almost 80 and is about to release a new book which apparently took quite a toll on him
That said, probably Chompsky. He's 87 and is basically one minor fall away from the infinite nonexperience
Was Bloom right about Harry Potter? Does it make it harder to get into more dense literature?
I imagine most of us read it in out youth yet we will read
The first book I read properly was Homer's Iliad
>he didn't grow up with orthodox Christianity
I didn't read it in my youth, my brother took the book from my hands and said he was going to burn it for it's portrayal of witch craft.
>>7585144
How would it make it harder to get into more dense literature? That doesn't make any sense
I just ordered this book as an introduction to Kafka, and for general enjoyment. Did I fuck up?
Kafka and Lovecraft are so reddit every time I try to read them I black out and make some tacos XDD
>>7585105
>uses ascii smileys while trying to insult reddit
go back to reddit.
>>7585118
>missing the irony in the post
What is the difference between justice and revenge?
>>7584951
fucking, that picture
all those people in the background looking, the guy in the cap, the guy in the back seemingly smiling
anyway anon, idk
>>7584951
Justice is dealt only once, revenge is a neverending circle
Depend if emotions are involved.
"What is your place in the marketing scheme? Once you're out of school, it is only a matter of time before you experience the vast loneliness and dissastisfaction of consumers who have lost their group identity."
>not forging your own identity in the crucible of ennui that is modern society
Do you even want to make it?
>>7584653
Have you heard about meme arrows xD?
Shitposting aside, I just read White Noise a few days ago. Greatly enjoyed it. So much so that I've got Mao II and Underworld on the way in the mail. I hear great things about Libra as well.
The entire airborne toxic event and the ostensible simulacra nature of the event is hilariously relevant to the entire imgur influx phenomenon here.
Shitposters are creating the hyperreality.
>>7584755
1/2 way through White Noise at the moment. It's good but not great. I have to say I found Mao II & Libra significantly better, although Libra was mainly the shock of how much 'homage' Oliver Stone was paying in JFK.
I think White Noise hasn't aged too well. Not badly, just not great. Obviously it's a study of modern life & trivia & can be read as a snapshot that's still relevant, but the white noise of modern life is portrayed in a very similar way to American Psycho,...
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>he didn't get published in a respectable journal at the age of 16 when competition was fierce
>he didn't live his teenage years as an "enfant terrible," partying and getting laid and causing hijinks during the 19th century.
>he didn't create a completely revolutionary new style of writing before the age of 21
>he didn't enlist as a soldier and then desert, savoring the danger
>he didn't die young, fulfilling a perfect legacy as a prodigious and successful genius
just give up
>getting laid
That's a cute euphemism for 'getting his boypussy ravaged by prusian soldiers'
All memes aside, I've had a pretty interesting life so far for someone who's on the internet so much. Drink, drugs, travel, crime, digital intrigue, women, meeting interesting characters, doing strange things in stranger places. I'm no genius but it's all good stuff for my writing.
>>7584841
Cool blog, subscribed.
>the alternate universe where DFW became a mathematician or a logician and never wrote fiction
he would still have no discernible talent
What a wonderful world. We could have a /lit/ where people didn't just parrot the same shit all the time.
DFW studied in the humanities, why are you bringing up math? Is it the figuratively autistic writing style?
If it's because of his essay or the passages about statistics in his novels, anyone who has more than passing knowledge of these fields knows that he just dabbled and gave no signs of having any particular talent for them.
Went in to B&N today because I got a gift card for Christmas and might as well. Walked over to /lit/ and picked up Ulysses. My head hurt just flipping through it. I've always considered my self smart, aced ACT and AP classes, killed my lit survey classes in college last year, read a book or two a month (last month was Hamlet and Inferno) BUT APPARENTLY I'M A BIG FUCKING SHAM. How do I prepare myself for something like Ulysses? Just read more? Study the Joyce's other stuff first? Fuck validation, I just want to not feel like an idiot while reading a book
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okay oops I checked too
anyways dive in, just remember it was first serialized separately
once you have read it once then you can get something to study it with
>reading ulysses first
he literally references multiple characters from earlier books he had written.
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What's the consensus on this?
>>7583830
it's a good novel. worthy of the booker prize, whatever that means
pretty good
>>7583830
very solid
read it; come back, we'll have a chat
Are you familiar with the works of Morimi Tomihiko?
Have you read any of them?
No, but the anime was fucking dope.
So Tatami was basically, 'What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more' ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.'?
>>7583914
You got it.
A simple story done well. Same with Ping Pong.
Us readers, im right?
>>7583482
there's a reason I avoid those places
>>7583482
>read a book for eight hours straight everyday
I couldn't do this.
