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Kafka's parable in Trial

You have exactly 5 minutes to prove to me that this isnt the greatest piece of /lit/ ever

>Protip

I dont think you can but lets try
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>>7710071

I never understood that story desu. He was allowed to go in the door but he wasn't? What?
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>>7710086
This door... it was meant for me!
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>>7710071
Befoe the Law is good but Kafkas The Castle or The Metamorphosis are much better OP!

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opened up "dead souls" by gogol, there was a note taped inside written by some guy saying it was depressingly boring and that he regrets wasting his time on finishing it.

I checked it out anyway, but I'm not sure if I want to read it. Is it good? is the person that wrote the note wrong?
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He emphasized twice that he urges not to waste time on it. Can it be that bad?
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>>7710053
It's good but Gogol died before he could finish it.
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>>7710053
gogol hair triggers me.

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>tfw too stupid to read 'hard' books
Do I really need to start with the greeks to get harder books like gravity's rainbow or Ulysses ?
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Ulysses is centered around Odysseus so having read that first would greatly improve your experience with the book.
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there is no magical ladder to being able to understand books, dont waste time reading stuff youre not interested in so you'll 'acquire' the reading capability

just read the book carefully, analyze, take notes if you have to, it's not that hard
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>>7710011
>Falling for the "start with the Greeks meme"
Just read CoL49 before GR, you'll be fine. You do have to read the entirety of the western canon before attempting Ulysses though.

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Does anyone like these books?
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this is a board for literature, not young adult graphic novels
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>>7709977
No.

I have a problem with nietzsche.
It's this idea of the self-made person or individual.
I'm familiar with all of the nuances of consciousness and I understand how it is that reality is endowed with a certain objectivity by being perceived or inferred upwards to conscience, but what is this grounded in?
Really, you can't just go "cause I said so," if reality is to have meaning then it must arise from a subsistent principle of being in which all existent things partake in and thereby exist.
We all perceive reality in an objective way by means...
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let you in on a strange secret We are all self-made, but only the successful will admit it.
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>>7709938
Can you explain to me the mechanism?
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>>7709963
ethos anthropos daimon

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What do you guys think of copywriting as a /lit/ related job? I've delivered pizzas and taught English so that I could have the liberty to read and write without having to dedicate the majority of my time to someone else, but a copywriting course has grabbed my attention and anyone would do who needs professional advise, I've come to you guys. Anyone here done it before or know more than I do after having read two pages on it. I like the potential it holds obviously for money and to improve what seems like a different aspect of my writing, but I don't know if...
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>>7709920
bump
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>>7709920
I have a friend that does it as only income while studying, will answer questions as good as I can.
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>>7709920
No one gives a shit

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Best work of literature you "had" to read in high school English?

Cyrano de Bergerac and 1984
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Our Town was my favourite I think.

We read L'Étranger in my French class which was cool beans.
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>>7709908

Crime and Punishment
introduced me to a favorite author and started my love for Russian lit
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>>7709908
The Wheelbarrow by pirandello

Listened in a sleepy hour of lesson more than 10 year ago and never forgotten

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>America was the first country based on Enlightenment values, particularly the theories of John Locke
>becomes a superpower with one of the highest standards of living in the world

Is it worth reading Leviathan after Hobbes got completely BTFO by history?
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That's a bit reductionist senpai

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Most of you guys are probably not going to be into this genre (it's NA fantasy) but I've been struggling hardcore with my opening chapter for a long while now. Would someone kindly mind taking a look at it and telling me what I could do to make it a little more interesting?

https://www.wattpad.com/216301567-terres-prologue

I don't seen to have as many problems later (I do have pacing issues which I know about) but goddamn, first chapters are *hard*

For reference this is a fun project, I don't think I plan on publishing for serious but...
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If you guys don't want to go to the link I can try to post the excerpt in multiple comments.
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Wren stared at the prostrate body of the man on the gurney. A new pair of wings jutted from his back, feathers matted with blood. Two huge gashes crawled up from where they'd emerged and over his shoulders. His face was covered with a sheet to protect it from the sun, and beneath it he barely moved.

The crowd parted as the winged guardsmen carried him past. The women whispered to each other in words too low for Wren to hear. They jumped out of the way as the gurney got close, as if the wings were contagious. Wren shuddered and backed up a few paces. She knew she...
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She eventually picked her way to her family's tent with minimal conversation past a required 'Hi' here or there to one of her mother's regulars. The tents were pitched like patchwork, laid out with no particular rhyme or reason, with an occasional traveling wagon interspersed in between. It made it easy to avoid contact when she wanted to.

No one was home, which made Wren glad. They'd be busy at the marketplace, or packing their wares to leave at the end of the week. There was nothing she wanted more than to be alone, after the previous night's...
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I have recently read Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury and I would like to gather others opinions about the book. I realized that there is a big similarity between how he portrays the future in that time to us today, students only want the quizlet,spark notes, or to even cheat rather than read or learn it all themselves. comment what you think
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Shit book, bad prose, boring plot into le dystopian garbage pile it goes. Sage.
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Students do this shit because college is such a fucking joke nowadays, it's purely focused on idiotic performance metrics that cannot truly capture excellence.

When you create a game that tells its players "get your score as high as possible!", you can't be mad at players for doing that. And that is what college has become, a center for 'job training', getting your stupid piece of paper then going into the labor force to become a drone with your great liberal education.

it's really sad, if you give even a little bit of a fuck...
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>>7709800
Read "Industrial Society and Its Future" if you want something better on a similar topic.

Has anyone ever read this guy Lagan's supposed theory of everything?

Wiki Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan

Theory PDF:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjx35bn8__KAhUH8RQKHXwkDwEQFggfMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.megafoundation.org%2FCTMU%2FArticles%2FLangan_CTMU_092902.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFgHJr0VNIa2scISjSvdhT0sAlY4w&sig2=avW_9e9Zve1dKcRSpPouJA&bvm=bv.114195076,d.d24&cad=rja

Q & A with the guy about his ideas:
http://www.megafoundation.org/CTMU/Q&A/Archive.html#CTMU

I've...
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>>7709738
From what I can tell Langan's ideas mirror Boehme's, sans Schizophrenia. He's almost as neat as his head is big. Big ol' head guy, him

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So, I want to be a writer but I can't take novel writing classes at my college because I can only take classes for my bachelor in English. Can I improve myself to become a self-taught writer? I've taken a creative writing class that was a requirement before.
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>>7709720
You can teach yourself, yes. None of the things you'd learn in a writing class or workshop are that valuable or irreplaceable.
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Just know how to do the structure and don't sperg like saramago
You'll be fine
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Write every day. Every damn day. For years.

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I am deep into poetry right now so Let´s share some short but good poems.

The Blind by Charles Hanson Towne

The blind man fumbeld down the street,
(How far, for him, the street must wind!)
I heard the click of his wretched stick,
His thin, "Please help the blind!"

I hurried past him, till his voice
Was lost, like gulls´ cries far at sea.
I had two eyes, but saw him not:
If he was blind, oh, what of me?!
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In The Park by Gwen Harwood


She sits in the park. Her clothes are out of date.
Two children whine and bicker, tug her skirt.
A third draws aimless patterns in the dirt
Someone she loved once passed by – too late

to feign indifference to that casual nod.
“How nice” et cetera. “Time holds great surprises.”
From his neat head unquestionably rises
a small balloon…”but for the grace of God…”

They stand a while in flickering light, rehearsing
the children’s names and birthdays. “It’s so sweet
to hear their chatter,...
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And The Days Are Not Full Enough by Ezra Pound

And the days are not full enough
And the nights are not full enough
And life slips by like a field mouse
Not shaking the grass
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>>7709756

Things ain't coming fast enough
There is no hood that's hard enough
I can't fold I need gold
product must be sold to yo!

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Some of you may remember a guy posting here about reading the canon to impress a girl. Well, it's almost working. Almost. She just read four books by Robert Cormier for school. I've never heard of him Redpill me, /lit/. What do I say about him? Is he good?
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Why don't you ask her?
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>>7709636
I don't want to sound like a total pleb. What's the patrician opinion?

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Hey /lit/ i need a short but good novel to read. Also general novella thread
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Onetti is boss.

Nothing to do with him except being south-american, but Barren Lives is p. good
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>>7709506
haven't read it yet but The Bridge of San Luis Rey is like a hundred pages

Hemingway and Kafka wrote short books too
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Breakfast at Tiffany's

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