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Where do Alexander Pope and Jonathan Swift rank in English letters?

Recently read The Tale of a Tub (it was assigned reading back in university, but I missed the class because of a hangover iirc) and thought it was great, reminded me a lot of Carlyle's Sartor Resartus. I read selections of Gulliver's Travels, but I think I'll get to a full reading of it soon. Does the rest of his work hold up to the same quality as Tale and Modest Proposal?
I've never read anything by Pope, but I'm curious as to why he's always highly esteemed (I glossed...
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Eh, that whole period is a bit of a lull.
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>>8292197
I was trying to resist that judgment until after I read some of their works, but that's always been my impression of their contemporaries and period.
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So Elvis was quoting Pope?

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>Hey there anon, I heard you like to read! Why don't you check out this 300 page book that's my absolute favorite because I have shit taste! Let me know what you think! Alright, later buddy, see you around!
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T-thanks....but I have a p-pretty big backlog to get through a-already
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*runs after him*

N-no thanks, senpai!
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>>8291762
>Ready Player One
>The Shining
>Gunslinger
>Fight Club
>Fault in our Stars
>Perks of being a Wallflower
>One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
>Game of Thrones
>a Bible written entirely in Australian slang

out of all the shit...
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About 2 years ago, I read and thoroughly enjoyed the first 4 books of the Dark Tower series, especially The Drawing of the Three and Wizard and Glass. Something came up and I wasn't able to continue the series at the time, and then I heard that the quality takes a pretty steep nosedive off a cliff starting with the next book, losing my motivation. Is the rest of the series worth reading? I've already been slightly spoiled with the ending.
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not worth it at all. really really bad.
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Might as well see the thing through to the end, man. I had the whole ending spoiled for me, I knew the books dipped in quality, and I still finished them, and I don't regret it. There are some cool parts, some dumb parts, and some parts that are completely out of place. Stephen King really changed after he got hit by that van, he rushed to get this particular series done and it shows. But I recommend finishing for the sake of closure. You should especially read it now before the movie shits all over the source material.
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First book was GOAT and should've stayed that way, not fucking stupid magical black lady and spider offspring

Best business books to read?
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the art of the deal
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>>8291601
Is that supposed to be misleading?
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The ones they will teach you in business school.

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what exactly is volume 2 of this book? was it chapters he left out that they put together after he died? have you read volume 2?
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bumpoooo
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come on guys. none of you have read this? !

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am i getting shafted or nah
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>falling for actual memes
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what site is that?
sick of amazon fucking me over with 4 dollar shipping
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>>8291449
who are you quoting?

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Any other good books set in African conflicts?
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Not exactly a piece of literature, but there's a memoir I remember called 'My Friend the Mercenary' about some British reporter who hired a South African bodyguard to protect while in Liberia. It was quite entertaining.
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We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed With Our Families
Non-fiction about Rwanda Genocide
Haven't read it but been intending to for a while, seems pretty interesting
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Weep Not, Child is set in Kenya during the Mau Mau uprising.

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I know Stephen King is kinda plebby, (but I love his books anyway.)

What's your favorite Stephen King novel, /lit/?
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>>8291252
Pet Sematary scared me the most, but Misery pulled me in the most. Either one of those, I suppose.
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The Long Walk
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i just bought the stand, should i try to read it?

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Has /lit/ read pic related? Thoughts? I just finished and I think it's an interesting story, but a semi-shitty book.
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>Palahniuk
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how do you pronounce Palahnuik?

the one time I said it, I pronounced it like Paladin, but before the 'din' bit I made a wretching noise, so I pronounced it like

Pala-n'HURRK

but my lit professor laughed at me so I guess it wasn't right
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>>8291207
Pala-nook

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Is it fair for engineering students to have an easier English course than students in any other faculty?
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I-I just like reading books
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>>8291064

Is it fair for humanities students to have an easier science course than students in any other faculty?
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no

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>So is there any other female even close to her level of writing?

Been thinking about reading The Waves recently, is it really as good as they say?
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When I'm asked about female writers and all i can say is VW, I feel it's kinda wannabe, because there are obviously more female writes than her. But once I go, think about it and reread such a masterpiece like the waves, I remember why she gets all the credit. So, in response to your questions, I have to add this ┬┐is literature really for women?
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Austen and Rossetti are god tier and, in america, the best female writers are Dickinson and Henry James.
Never cared for Woolf tbqh, her works are full of vulgar cliches
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>>8290925
Lear how to greentext woolfposter

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My brother is a huge weeb who has never read a chapter book in his life. In order to try and get him to read I made a deal with him. He reads five books that I select for him and I'll watch five anime series of his choosing (I have never seen anime other than the Ghibli movies).
I enjoyed what I watched but don't think I am going to be watching any more anime any time soon. But now when I sit down and start to read something I imagine all the characters as if it were anime. It's honestly driving me crazy and no matter how hard I try to stop I eventually slip...
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Go watch the entire Bergman filmography to counter the weeb poison.
Start with Persona.
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Get down with the sickness
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Embrace it.
Hit rock bottom and then rise as a new individual.

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Do you agree with this book's argument?
Do you think mentally ill people have been treated inhumanely throughout history?
Do you think psychiatry is a flawed field of study morally?

(pic related is my copy)
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I've never read it but isn't it just that most "mental illness" is a social construct and the combination of state force and that psychiatrists will always find something "problematic" to "fix" as long as it's profitable for them to keep creating new mental illnesses
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It was 2 dense 4 me to read, but it boils down to how mentally ill people were at times better treated in the past because they were accepted or even praised for the eccentricities whilst giving free permission to roam in society - right? Meanwhile we today just lock people up and tell them they're not normal and need to change?
Have I got that right?
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I'm >>8290902 so I haven't read it either, but just to comment on this any way: I think if so, Foucault might be somewhat outdated today. A lot has happened in the field in the last couple of decades even. When I myself sought psychiatric help I was constantly told it's for me to decide what I want help with, and that it isn't in itself wrong to live in any certain way as long as I myself don't consider it an issue I want to overcome. I got quite...
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Hello /lit/,

Given your hatred for women and their lack of education in literature, how would you go about educating one as a board? What would you start her off on? Where would you start? Do you think women are even worth trying on? What if you had a willing subject? I'm quite curious.
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The Greeks.
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>>8290805
Even fucking Plato?
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>>8290815

Especially Plato.

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There is no way to force others to agree with your definition of literary quality. Most people have an artistic quality definition of "Whatever gives me joy" and their definition of joy is their own and may vary from time to time.

What the academia-media-publishing industrial complex and its pseudo intellectual hangers on (i.e., /lit/) seeks to do is band together to form a large group with a common definition of literary quality, a definition which may not be honestly believed by individual members of the group. This gives them many advantages, one of which...
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You're a hipster OP.
Your entire post says nothing that isn't obvious. This is just how taste and trends work, with all things.
You haven't figured anything out. And you're not above it, lad.
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>Most people have an artistic quality definition of "Whatever gives me joy" and their definition of joy is their own and may vary from time to time.

That's true, but there CAN be a qualitative measuring of joy. As much as I don't really like John Stuart Mill, I think that he had a point in the ability for someone who has more education to make a more accurate assumption concerning what is more pleasurable.

For example: fly fishing versus bait fishing. If you ask anyone who has knowledge of fly fishing and can do...
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> Most people have an artistic quality definition of "Whatever gives me joy"

This is obviously false. If it were the case that most people defined "artistic quality" as whatever brings them joy, then they would would accept that sex, the company of friends and family, good food, etc., -- all things which bring people joy -- have "artistic quality." But few if anyone would claim that these things have "artistic quality." And so it is safe to conclude that most people either don't believe that artistic...
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