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>tfw your first draft seems just fucking unsalvageable
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>>7751919
Keep trying, anon.
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Not everyone is cut out for writing.
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>>7751919

>20000 words or so into your novel
>realize the basic theme or concept of the story is extremely flawed and can't be fixed without deleting everything and going back to the drawing board

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Objectively the best prewar 20th century American novel(?)
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I really should read this shouldn't I.
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>>7754928
Yup
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>>7754922

Not the best at all but it's very good.

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why do people pretend to like his books?
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Why do people pretend to be stupid?
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I unironicaly like his books and there's nothing you can do about it pal
Deal with it
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He's aight

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Has there ever been an unironic thread about this masterpiece?
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>>7754314
Seriously though, how difficult is it really, to get your hands on a copy?
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>>7754314
I have once or twice.
>>7754337
Just order it off of Amazon.
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>>7754337
I got a copy of it for $1 lel

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Discuss.

I loved it btw...
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*discussion noise*
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>>7753151
I mean it was pretty good for a fictionalized rant. I have to say he was right about the creative artist being lost for the performing one, interesting to pin the beginning of the end on the player piano. I wouldn't exactly call it amazing though, these sorts of things were covered in detail in both The Recognitions and JR through characterization and plot but maybe he just decided he really had to lay it bare? Ambivalent that the book was supposed to be written by Jack in JR but Jack was not a dying old man in...
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>>7753832
You're right about it being something already done by himself, but I think it adds a lot of value to know that it was written by a man who knows he's going to die. He pretty much goes through his own work and tells us some personal stuff around him, like his awards, the critics and such.

I know you shouldn't criticize a work outside the work but knowing about Gaddis work and his circumstances by the end of the century gives a better feel to the work.

Also, it became one of my favorite stream...
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I know it's faggy, but does everyone else refrain from reading in public so people won't think you're an anti-social freak?
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>>7749927

Kind of. I don't read Dostoevsky in public, because you'll then look like a freak. But if you read Game of Thrones in public, you'll looks like a guy who follows trends and sees what's popular and you can even get into a conversation with someone about the books or show.

The only downside is that if you really hate the books, like I do, you're pretty much living a lie. However this is my only way of connecting with people IRL, so I can't give it up.
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I lift, shave, dress decent, have great skin, people can clearly see that I'm not anti-social, even though I'm reading Seneca while taking the metro.
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What? Why would you even care about what someone who's just passing by would even pay attention to you? I mean, they probably don't and, even if they did, it's meaningless.

Just stop being a fag and do what you want.

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I've been reading a lot of pessimistic but what are some writers of poetry that will make me feel the same way?
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Daniil Kharms
Alfred Jarry
Jacques Vache
Harold Pinter
Samuel Beckett
Edward Gorey
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>>7754800
Early T.S. Eliot
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Blaise Cendrars

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>tfw your 'novela' is very Pynchonesque, Wallacesque, a lit bit Kafkatian ironically self concious, post post modernit full of foreign words, references and metaphors
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>(you)
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>Kafkatian

How Kafkaesque
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Is there a fantasy actually worthy of respect from /lit/ something that is deeper and more fleshed out maybe even closer to life like urban fantasy?
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Gormenghast
Gene Wolfe
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Try the works of John Crowley, OP, especially Little, Big.

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Do writers actually enjoy their own stuff? I've heard of a lot of professional musicians not being able to listen to/not liking their own music so it got me thinking
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Post boipussy. I've already been denied a pic of a thick eight incher on here earlier, and, I need a fix.
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I go through periods of loving/detesting my work while writing. As I'm editing I'll (obviously) read it a shit tonne, and then once I'm finished I'll never have the urge to read it again
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>>7747291
Not sure, it was trimmed shortly after the anon said he was at work.
I don't want it in my ass, just my mouth, or hand, or in front of my eyes.

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What are some good books about norse paganism?
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What are some good books about horse Reaganism?
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Poetic Edda
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>>7755004
There isn't much out there specifically and exclusively on Norse paganism I'm afraid. Internet articles are probably your best bet.

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It is a fundamental failure of modern literature that there is nothing that takes in to account picrelated or vidrelated.

Where is the real shit? Why are there vast areas of culture and the human condition that are not depicted anywhere in modern art?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48EiVFq2K58
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One of the key parts of artistic creation is choosing what's worth depicting and what isn't.
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>>7753950
>>Where is the real shit? Why are there vast areas of culture and the human condition that are not depicted anywhere in modern art?
look, the humanity is hedonistic: we love pleasures and hate pains. sex is the best pleasure for most people and the feeling to be validated by idols is indescribable.
the entertainment industry understand this and your situation that you wish to be depicted will only be mentioned when people want to feel better about themselves, aka when they want...
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Its the same shit thats been going on since Biblical days

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Should I read East of Eden?
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best of steinbeck imho
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>>7755012
I don't know, should you? xDDCDDD

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>/tv/ has the Oscars
>/v/ has e3
>what does /lit/ have ?

Imo the most important event all year round for literature would be the Goncourt prize but there's hardly any discussion about it when it is announced, maybe even the people taking literature as a main source of escapism/entertainment conceive it as a dead media with nothing new to deliver ? On the positive side it can be seen as a meme proof media that focuses on the essentials and not on the latest trends ?
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>>7754727
The Nobel Prize in Lit.

We have had lots of threads for it every year. I still remember the thread where Llosa won it.
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http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/
I think there are probably more prizes for writing than any other media. How are you not aware of this? And the Goncourt prize the most important one? That's Francophone lit ONLY. That's retarded.
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>>7754739
OP is French. You can tell by the way he puts a space between the end of the sentence and the punctuation. Naturally he thinks he's the center of the world. Americans do too, hence the backlash from /lit/ in all the Nobel threads about the lack of American winners lately.

Could we talk about art (drawn) vs. writing for a bit?
Something that I find slightly frustrating about writing is that people often lack the attention span to read.
With drawings or a painting you need only but to see the image for a moment to take it in. Of course the longer you look the more detail you may see, the more nuances you might uncover, but at the core you really only need 5-10 seconds.

My fiance says, "But does a drawing really stick with you like a book?" And I don't think so. Is that because the work is effectively done for us with...
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>>7754681
>My fiance

fuck off normie, no one cares
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>But does a drawing really stick with you like a book?

I don't think so, because each is asking something of the audience that is fundamentally different from what the other asks. A passage from a book gives the reader context through the text both before and after the quote, while a painting leaves those dimensions of time completely nonexistent.
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>>7754695

>>/r9k/ with you

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