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Hey guys,

Do you ever think about the great writers of history and wonder if they would be working in literature if they were alive today? Maybe they'd be writers, but would it be in the same medium or in the same form?

For example, if Shakespeare were alive today, would he be a playwright or a screenwriter?

Would Hemingway be a motivational YouTube personality?

Would Kerouac be a travel blogger?

Would Tolstoy be on Patreon?

Would Steinbeck be writing scathing political opinion or commentary?

Would Whitman rule Tumblr...
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>>7854095
The Whitman one I could believe, and wouldn't be surprised.
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>>7854131

Whitman's great though.
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>>7854095
>> For example, if Shakespeare were alive today, would he be a playwright or a screenwriter?

screenwriter

>> Would Hemingway be a motivational YouTube personality?

no, he'd be like better tom clancy

>>Would Kerouac be a travel blogger?

yes, but there are a million travel bloggers now. no one would know who he is, he'd have like 100 followers on twitter and eventually give...
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What makes a work of alternate history "good". Is it plausibility? Historical accuracy? Or should it merely aim to be entertaining?
And as a side question, what are some examples of really bad alternate history?
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>>7853931
What makes a book "good"? Is it plausibility? Accurate portrayal of society? Or should it merely aim to be entertaining?
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>>7853931

Same things that make good sci-fi. Good writing and an interesting hypothetical. That's all. It doesn't need to be serious in tone, just good like any other book.

Pic related, I'm not sure how it would hold up today but I still think about the one scene with the knight reaching out to try and help his electrocuted comrade and dying in the process. On the nose maybe but there was a bitterness to it that really stuck with me.

Maybe you wouldn't consider it alternate history either...
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>>7853954
Alternate history as a genre is fundamentally tethered to this world.

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does /lit/ know of any good books about this guy?
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>>7853929
The "how we fucked up" report by the Norwegian police is actually pretty damn good for what it is 2bh

Don't know if it is translated though.
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>>7853936
lol sounds really interesting. ill look into it.
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>>7853929

No but this can help

What are some lit tier romance novels or with major romantic subplots?
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All of Russian literature?
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Oblomov
Brothers Karamazov
Stoner
Nadja
Dr Zhivago
The Sun Also Rises and most Hemingway
Story of the Eye
Sorrows of Young Werther
Lolita
A Confederacy of Dunces
The Peregrine

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>Be me, 4 years ago
>Far cry from well-read, did love to read
>Started writing
>Colleagues said it gave them goosebumps
>Motivated to write a book
>Started 2 projects
>Asked le Internet to r8 my writing
>Said it was shitter than Dan Brown
>Become demotivated, stopped the projects at page ~60
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who are your colleagues?

I would say never trust people on the internet, but i would imagine it's just as foolish to trust people in real life
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>>7853713
Teachers. History teacher and linguist teacher.
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>>7853723
Oh, and a religion teacher.

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Why does /lit/ fall for the "older is better" meme?

Like: Mozart HAS to be better than modern music. Because >muh culture

Or: Hegel HAS to be a better thinker than Sam Harris...

Why?
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I like my books the opposite of how I like my women: old, worn-in, and with lots of things to tell me.
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>>7853573
Sam Harris is the guy who wrote a terrible book about his theory that there is a universal code of morality and when his book got completely panned he wrote a long butt hurt essay responding to his critics. He then created a contest to see who could disprove him and the winner would win 2,000 dollars. If someone managed to change Harris' mind, they would win 20,000 dollars. Someone won the 2,000 dollars but of course no one won the second prize.
If you actually think this guy is an important figure in the field...
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>>7853573
objectively mozart is better than modern music in terms of musical techniques used in his compositions compared with that of modern songs of any type, but by this measurement music peaked in the late romantic era with Chopin, Rachmaninoff and those insane guys and just declined from then with the advent of modernism and minimalism and the degeneracy we call pop culture today, and the same is pretty much with all other art forms to varying extents

I saw this copy of Moby-Dick at my local bookstore today, it was $15. It was a softcover, but had deckled edges. I already own the hardcover Penguin Classics version, is it worth getting this one?
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>>7853564
Over the years I've grown a huge obsession towards Winesburg, Ohio
Whenever I see a copy of it in a bookstore I buy it. Doesn't matter that I already own five copies
So my answer would be, if you really enjoy the book, buy it
Maybe someone will want to borrow it from you in the future and you won't want to lend them your better copy
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>>7853564
Can never have too many Dicks, anon. Maybe you can let someone borrow it in the future.
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Nah m8 u got the penguin, it's superlative nig

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Normie here trying to get into books

Thought this lifestyle was meant to be an escape from the real world, and experience fictional utopian worlds through the lens of a novel protagonist?

Why are books so repetitive, the authors seem to use one word numerous times making the reading experience dreary as hell

The character development is non existent as well. You faggots probably just say you read because it makes up for being a boring reclusive fuck
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>>>/b/
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I don't read to make up for being a boring reclusive fuck, I'm a boring reclusive fuck because I read.

I've decided to try to learn German over summer. Not for any functional purpose, but because I want to understand Wagner's libretti. It would also be nice if I could read some Goethe/Schiller/Novalis/Holderlin/Rilke in the original German.

Are there any resources specifically aimed at people who want to learn German for its cultural side? Also how much is achievable in about 3 months with a decent amount of work?
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>using a Seuss cartoon for a Nietszche quote
>not using Miffy
I made this image in 2010 and I hope at least you, /lit/, get it because fucking nobody else ever has except this one Dutch girl.
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>>7853389
Good luck, it's been a year and a half for me and I still have the command of the language of a 5 year old kid.
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You will not be able to read Goethe after 3 month of learning german, or the little prince. You'll need 3 years and a lot of work

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Who /pavese/ here?
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>>7853240
Noone has read him here. La luna e i Falò is my all time favourite novel so if you want we can circlejerk the two of us
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>>7853603
You italian?

Also La casa in collina is mine.
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>>7853674
Yes I am.
Fun trivia: the original translated title was The moon and the Bonfire. Singular. For no precise reason. And noone corrected that for more than twenty years and multiple editions

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Tender Is The Night >>>>>>> The Great Gatsby
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Formula for /lit/ posting: 'y > x' (where x is more popular/acclaimed/known than y)
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Infinite Jest >>>>>>> Spot the Dog
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>>7853219
Except Tender Is The Night is actually a LOT better than TGG

Hello, /lit/ I'm coming here with a request. I need to find authors who criticize the church as an institution. Talking about the church's downside, and negative impacts in society.
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>>7853191
Why do you need them for?
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>>7853191
Why We Love the Church: In Praise of Institutions and Organized Religion
By: Ted Kluck, Kevin DeYoung
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>>7853192
I'm doing a debate on the subject.

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Can we talk about this book?
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>>7853075
But Senpai, might ain't right.
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>>7853090
Yes it is.
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make me bitch

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is this the real old Pynchon?
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>>7852906
juvenile hack
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Some other guy said that this is the real old Pynchon, from the Inherent Vice's cameo (thats one reamins unknown tho)
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>>7852921
That's not Pynchon. That's Charley Morgan.

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Posting here since this seems to have more to do with ontology than politics:

From Capital :

Fourth paragraph, around the start:

>The utility of a thing makes it a use value. But this utility is not a thing of air. Being limited by the physical properties of the commodity, it has no existence apart from that commodity. A commodity, such as iron, corn, or a diamond, is therefore, so far as it is a material thing, a use value, something useful. This property of a commodity is independent of the amount of labour required to appropriate...
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Full text: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm#7b
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>study Hegel all the time
>always excited to discuss Hegel
>oh boy a Hegel thread!
>it's another fucking marx thread instead
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>>7852902
Sorry, I'm not understanding the problem?

a use value
>has no existence apart from that commodity
and something is commodifed
>because human labour in the abstract has been embodied or materialised in it
and it is presented on the market.

The use value satisfies some sort of need/want, and becomes commodified when presented for an exchange value, i.e., placed on the market.

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