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Just got diagnosed with bipolar depression.
What are some books to cheer me up, or books that talk about or have characters with bipolar depression.
read Dostoyevsky
>>8270339
Definitely Notes from Underground.
>>8270339
You lucky fucker. The highs are supposed to be amazing.
Help me understand this part of the Tractatus: 4.1212
Don't know what it is in english, loose translation: What can be pointed, cannot be said
It's translated as "shown"
Every sub-numbering is a further comment or clarification on the preceding propositions so you should post those too
>>8270295
I'm no good at translating, but here we go:
4 Thoughts are meaningful sentences
4.1 Sentences portray ruling or non-ruling in private situations
4.12 Sentences can portray the whole truth, but not what they must have in common with reality in order to show - their logical form.
To show a logical form, we should be able to seat ourselves outside logic, a.k.a. outside the world.
4.121 Sentences cannot show a logica form - it is projected from sentences.
What is projected from language, cannot...
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>>8270329
Yep. It's the old saying/showing distinction. Very important idea in the book, and also the most controversial ...
I just realized that two of my favorite novels, Mother Night and The Postman, are very similar.
A man pretends to be something that he's not, but since his actions effect other people and intentions don't matter, they become defined by what they pretended to be, not who they were on the inside
Are there any other books like that?
>>8270258
Haven't read the novels you're mentionning, but from your description of them, I'd advise reading the following : The Vatican Cellars, by André Gide.
is the postman actually a good book?
>>8270258
that greentext story about the movie Drive
>he kicked him in the face
So is Cormac McCarthy just a hack or is there a reasonable explanation for this? How does the kid kick a man in the face who is presumably taller and standing in front of him? Are we actually supposed to picture that he landed a jumping high kick on him?
>>8270187
I'm pretty sure thats the part when they burn down the hotel. From what I recall Old Sidney was already on the ground and Toadvine told him to kick him in the face.
>>8270194
My bad, I should have been more specific. This happens when when the kid and Toadvine first cross paths. The fight starts when the kid "kicks him in the face."
Only other explanation is pic related.
>>8270187
The guy he kicks in the face had already fallen to the floor since, y'know, Toadvine fucking jumped him. C'mon, OP, you can't blame your inability to read on McCarthy.
Is there a more manipulative shit in literature than Edmund from King Lear?
>>8270179
Yeah, Iago. To a certain extent Ulysses from Troilus and Cressida as well.
>>8270179
I thought the leader kid in the group of young boys from The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea was pretty bad, actually. He persuades his friends tokill a kitten and to kill the sailorfrom what I remember, all the while expressing no sense of remorse.
>>8270179
Probably not, but I'd like to sayfuck john claggart
Press F to pay respects.
Fuck you I worked for those respects
>>8270132
same desu senpai, what sort of work did you do?
>>8270132
F
>There hasn't been a great philosopher or writer in 100 years.
Is all hope truly lost? Has the internet and millennials literally destroyed ancient schools of thought and left us with hedonism sprinkled with nihilism? With nothing to strive for nor look forward to but a dumb pursuit of happiness? To build nothing and devote to nothing but temporary jobs and weekend get-togethers?
People who think the answer to life is happiness?
Is that all there really is to it?
>>8270065
define great philosopher
>>8270065
Clearly you haven't read my stuff
>>8270065
>Is that all there really is to it?
Kind of. Better get used to it or start planning to become a hermit.
Is there a book on the philosophy of criminals? The type that is a criminal by choice.
>It's fun.
The end.
Forgot to say i already read nietsche.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegalism
Let's talk about this guy over here. What are some of your favorite passages from the Phenomenology?
Lordship and Bondsman passage is one of my favorites in philosophy
'Moral Dissemblance' is a btfo for the ages.
I like the part where he dies from cholera
1. Favorite character in Harry Potter other than Harry, Ron, Hermione or Hagrid
2. Favorite location in Harry Potter (if it's in Hogwarts be specific as to which part)
3. Favorite scene / memory from Harry Potter
1. Idk honestly, the side characters were pretty shit, I guess I always liked the werewolf professor and malfoy
2. London because of the lack of pakis at the time
3. Masturbating to hermione
>>8269833
1. Bellatrix. I fapped to her. And Fleur, i fapped to her as well.
2. Prefects bathroom. its co-ed so i could fuck Fleur during fourth year there.
3. I used to masturbate a lot while reading. Lots of memories.
Snape, sorry.
The Quidditch tournament.
When Harry tears Malfoy open I guess. I don't think back to much of it very fondly and the only thing I remember reading over several times is the flashback to Snape getting bullied.
I'm visiting a few cities across Europe soon and I'm looking for a good book to read while I'm there. I thought about The Canterbury Tales (since it's travel-related and I'll be in Canterbury a day or so) but it's English as heck and hence won't work once I'm out of the UK. Any suggestions?
please respond ;_;
>>8269876
Any book will do, y'know. As long as it entertains you... Just pick up anything that you find interesting but isn't too heavy to read. If you are travelling, you'll only read while resting so keep that in mind.
European romantics feature a whole bunch of dicking around in the countryside
Goethe's Wilhelm Meister (both, IIRC)
Le Grand Meaulnes
Aus dem Leben eines Taugenichts
etc.
I want to start reading more of Badiou, since I read his book on Saint Paul and quite enjoyed it. Marxism and theology is my thing and I know Badiou is not just a Platonist, but probably a closeted Christian as well. What else of his should I read?
He's incomprehensible.
>>8269728
>but probably a closeted Christian as well
So is Zizek. So is Agamben.
>>8270466
Agamben I can believe.
any glaring omissions? anyone that can be cut? guidance on who comes after kierkegaard? after aristotle, which 1-2 books/writings are critical for each?
>white men
Presocratics
Plato
Aristotle
St. Augustine
St. Thomas Aquinas
Descartes
Spinoza
Leibniz
Locke
Berkeley
Hume
Hobbes
Machiavelli
Rousseau
Montesquieu
Voltaire
J.S. Mill
Kant
Fichte
Schelling
Hegel
Schopenhauer
Nietzsche
Kierkegaard
>skipping Epicurus, Cicero, Lucretius, Pseudo-Dionysus the Areopagite, Plotinus, Porphyry
Tbqh tho kid you could skip most. For a basic foundation, read a bit of Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Hume, and Kant (or read Schopenhauer, he teaches Kant decently)
>>8269705
yeah i had epicurus/lucretius and epictetus/aurelius, but really trying to winnow this down. you're saying bare bones could look like this?
>plato
>aristotle
>descartes
>hume
>kant/schopenhauer
Sorta, it's not bad
If I were you, I'd read Machiavelli before the other Early Moderns (because self-contained), add Bacon before Descartes, move Hobbes to before Descartes, move Hume to just after Descartes, and I would consider moving Berkeley AFTER Hume because it's easier to read representationalists before an Idealist and then the phenomenalist Kant. Maybe add Thomas Reid before Kant. Also Mill's epistemology goes after the Idealists, not before.
You're going to be reading a lot of stuff in a vacuum, the way you're going, which...
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After reading all the important names and ideas in philosophy, I thought I understood everything in philosophy, reality etc.
Until I read about Non-Philosophy.
Which just demolished all of philosophy to pieces, including Wittgenstein.
>All forms of philosophy are structured around a prior decision, and remain constitutively blind to this decision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-philosophy
Congratulations, you finally get it.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org
>>8269639
>Buddhism
What?
>>8269639
>Eastern memes
Nope.
Eastern phil is decisional as fuck, more than Western phil
Are there any books that actually reflect modern life? Preferably written recently.
>>8269475
>reflect modern life
in what way? in a literal one where people talk about current problems and use all kinds of gadgets and online services, etc.? or something that describes the weird atmosphere we live in?
>>8269517
Not Opie, but does such literature exist that isn't YA or awful?
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