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ITT: gibberish hacks
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book cover gore thread?
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1. ITT plebs
1.1 The plebs that are the totality of shitposts.
1.12. The plebs who make gibberish hacks threads on this Samoan kite flying forum while outing themselves as plebs.
2. What is then to be done other than saging and reporting?

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I noticed I had a lack of knowledge about books written in my lifetime so I have spent the last few months making myself less ignorant. I'll share some of my findings to people as ignorant as I was.

Feel free to also post some others worth reading.
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Bartleby & Co. by Enrique Vila-Matas
A book about authors who stopped writing, who ended up preferring not to.

http://www.ndbooks.com/book/bartleby-and-company

Valeria Luiselli said he is one of her favorite authors (I'll rec her books soon)
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>>8275027

Contemporary female authors with a 5-5[-5] naming scheme who are quality writers include:
- Joyce Carol Oates
- Alice Munro
- Zadie Smith
- Donna Tartt
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Preparation for the Next Life by Atticus Lish
Following a Chinese immigrant and a post-iraq war veteran, Lish comments on the current situation in America with a decent prose style, considering this is his first book.

http://www.nytyrant.com/books.html

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Who are the Homer Simpson and Frank Grimes of literature or philosophy?
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>>8275028

The question is easy man, Homers are basically people who everyone loves despite them being really shitty or stupid people while Grimes are the ones who worked really hard at their masterpiece, get zero recognition and go unnoticed by the public along with their faults of pointing out how stupid the works of the Homer's of literature or philosophy are.
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Hemingway and Joyce
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>>8275053

>I don't need to make my novels coherent, because I'M JAMES JOYCE

What are some great books about previous U.S. Presidents? I'm trying to find one on Reagan and want to read one more objective than subjective.
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>>8274926
Books about american presidents or policy are uber propaganda tier. If you want to read about it regardless be sure to navigate the waters well and avoid books coming straight from the state department(do i have to mention that they won't mention this?) which will inevitable tell you how great any US president was, and if not how pressured they were, how they made the best of what they had and how they were overall good even though they might have had "some" faults. Your naive objective of finding one "more objective than subjective" - whatever that means - are therefore bound to fail unless you know what to look for.

I recommend doing due diligence and looking up his policies one by one while soberly looking up every little fact until you are convinced you AT LEAST know how you feel about /that policy/. It will still take you less time and feel better upon completion than taking X book and hoping it somehow will be "the true story".
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>>8274962
I should also probably mention that Wikipedia is also controlled and regularly visited by the CIA and other three-letter-agencies, Hitler wasn't a bad person, and there /is/ a war going on for your mind. So due diligence is required also here. Stay awake. Good luck.
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I see your point, but what does Hitler have to do with this?

I made this proyect to publish my second book of dark literature .
http://idea.me/proyecto/43689/poetisa-uruguaya-contemporanea
and here is my blogspot: http://www.florenciabonino.blogspot.com
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Leí algo de tu blog. No es muy bueno.

¿Qué te motiva a escribir poesía? ¿Qué autores lees? ¿Quienes de ellos te han influenciado? ¿Por qué debería darte mi dinero para que publiques tú? ¿Qué entiendes por "dark literature" o "literatura obscura/de oscuridad"?
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Hola, toda opinión es válida, leo Julio Herrera y Reissig, Delmira Agustini, Herman Hesse, Bukowski, soy muy abierta en cuanto a eso. Escribo por necesidad de expresarme y quizàs falta de comunicaciòn. Me refiero a escritos que salieron desde la parte oscura de mi alma/ser. Jaja, no "deberìas" darme tu dinero simplemente lo harìas para apoyarme en mi carrera en caso de: o que te guste lo que escribo, o te sientas identificado/a conmigo, o simplemente quieras apoyar a los jovenes que tienen intereses más allá del zapato nike nuevo que ha salido. Gracias por...
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http://florenciabonino.blogspot.com.uy/2014/08/veneno.html

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>He doesn't use a crisp, uncirculated hundred dollar bill as a bookmark
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>he doesn't use a crisp, uncirculated Confederate hundred dollar bill as a bookmark
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>>8274939
You might as well be using a Zimbabwean dollar.
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Let me guess, you're a financial domination pig-slave amirite

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https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Elliot_Rodger

Look who has their own wikiquote page
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>https://en.m.

get a load of this chump
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>Finally, at long last, I can show the world my true worth.

Kek, this was a genuinely good last sentence.
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He really liked being half white.

Poor guy.

Why couldn't he realize his personality was creepy as fuck in all that self reflection?

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what are some good smutty but literary novels? something like houellebecq, or celine, i guess
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>>8274846
Hubert Selby's Demon and most of his other work
Henry Miller and Anais Nin's work, especially Tropic of Cancer and The Rosy Crucifixtion
Ginsburg
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>>8274846
Satyricon and Justine by de Sade
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>>8274846
John Hawkes includes a lot of sexual themes in his books. The Lime Twig is probably the best starting point for him.

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We really shot ourselves in the foot by calling a genre "modern". Where do we from there and pos-modern?
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There's always contemporary.
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>>8274821
well meta-modernism
cyberism
the singularity period
Future Primitive Futurism
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1. probably called modernist
2. it's a general movement in the arts not a genre you idiot

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Where was /lit/ when people started seriously quoting from Harry Potter?

I read pic related today. It was like the literary equivalent of when kids today don't know what a VHS/Floppy Disk are.
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Context.
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>>8274766

>As was said in Harry Potter
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I hope I'm dead before people start seriously quoting from ASOIAF/etc.

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Just finished this. Was tempted to just go back to the beginning and read it again to figure out what the fuck was going on, but went to Mason & Dixon instead. Should I have re-read it?
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>>8274555
Why am I an idiot?
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>>8274543
>Пинчoн
>not Пaйнкoyн
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>>8274543
It makes much, much more sense the second time around, as you finally know who the many character names refer to, or at least which ones to pay attention to (I know most of the early Weissman stuff flew over my head on a first read, nevermind the opening scenes). The details you pick up...
You don't need to re-read it right away, but some people are (generally speaking) partial to re-reading books no later than 2-3 months afterwards

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"All during the service I kept thinking about Dave Masters. About Dave dying in France, and about old Sloane sitting there at his desk, dead two days; like they were the same kinds of dying" (89).

How are they the same kinds of dying?

Also, Stoner general.
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>>8274542
>How are they the same kinds of dying?
because they were both dead. He wasn't speaking figuratively.

two separate days and deaths; one of old age and one in war, but ultimately the same.
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>>8274557

This, one day you're here and the next you're gone. There are always more things that could have been done.
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>>8274557

OP here.

See, I'm only 89 pages into this book, and I really notice a trend in the writing, where Williams consistently points to a sort of contradiction which Stoner, wherein something or someone is familiar or intimate, while at the same time is distant or strange.

The first major example I find of this is the state of his marriage with Edith. They're familiar, they are intimate, yet at the same time Edith is one of the most distant people to him. His marriage is his home to come back...
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The differences in personality between people are determined just by their defects and virtues?

Do you guys know any books about this topic?
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me on the right
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>>8274481

If you accept that a virtue is just the lack of a defect, the amount and the combination of the defects i have is what defines my personality?
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>>8274530
Go home Kinski, you're supposed to be dead.

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Books that evoke in their reader some grade of personal growth without being complete jack shit. (self pitty-ish/John Green-ish/ Coelho-ish bullshit)

Pic related of the only author who I've actually found interesting, helpful and gifted with a great talent and domain of the language.
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Dostoyevsky, I agree.
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The Greeks in general, and especially the Iliad and Odyssey, have been a great help for me, particularly helping me understand amor fati.
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Dostoyevsky is a huge "Life is shit, buck up and quit bitching". Something this generetaion seems to need ASAP.

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in gaddis's recognitions he has one character say, "chraaast" constantly, which give him a pretty distinctive voice. what are some other little tricks that do this?

>having a character repeat a specific word or phrase
>giving a character a crutch word
>short vs. long sentences
>vocab level

Any good one?
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>>8274065
I always have my protagonist, Revlaggin, a kind of postmodern-day viking troglodyte, say "tane" and variations of "tane" and puns based on this word and it makes him sound very unique. He also talks like a black man when he's white.
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Have you read A Confederacy of Dunces? Jones' "woah!" catchphrase is fairly unique. He has a pretty distinct way of speaking that is one of the book's highlights.
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>>8274097
ooo, wigger is a good one.

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