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How the hell did Joseph Conrad manage to become one of the greatest English prose writers despite only having learned the language in his twenties?

Is this feat possible to replicate with other languages?
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I think it is really hard... but for example, paul celan wrote in german only, even though he avoided speaking in german. And since german is viewed as a really hard language, I think it is possible with every language.
Also, byung-chul han, for example, is a philosopher from south korea. He learned german because he was interested in nietzsche and heidegger and published his works in german only. He is really good. I know, this example is not from poetry, but since with heidegger and nietzsche, language is really important, it kind of fits you question, too.
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>>8173530
>one of the greatest English prose writers

He was no doubt a great writer, but his prose is far from that.
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>>8173530
I learned English in my early twenties hoping to someday write a novel in it. Some of the things I wrote were well received on /lit/ and elsewhere which gave me boost in confidence and made me pursue the depths of this language even more eagerly. I am aware I still make many mistakes and I completely lack the sensibility which I may never achieve, but writing is about imagination for some as it is about realism for others. If my universe, characters and descriptions are consistent, they can be well received by English...
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How do you get motivated to read, lit? I have a problem, I usually pick up a book and then I will read a few pages and I never really feel like finishing it. I have several books to choose from, actually any book I want; I have a kindle so I can just download literally anything. I've read a few books this year, but I had to push myself. The problem is that I think a lot of times the stories I am reading just feel sort of tedious, or I can never find the enthusiasm and intrigue to keep reading a story. How do you keep reading a story and not put it down until the end? I...
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maybe you just dont like reading bro
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>>8173192
Genesis 1 didn't occur in that circle
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>>8173207
that's not cool man, I want to like reading.

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hi every1 im new!!!!!!! holds up eagle and snake my name is frederick but u can call me Z4r4ThU5TrA!!!!!!!! lol...as you can see im very freigeistig!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet freigeistige ppl like me _... im 56 years old (im powerful 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch attic tragedy w/ myself (im a self-propelled wheel and don't need anyone else if you dont like it deal w/it) bcuz it SOOOO apollonian-dionysian!!!! its freigeistig 2 of course but i want to meet more freigeister =) like they say the more the wearier!!!! lol...neways i hope 2 meet lots of freigeister here...
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hi every1 im new!!!!!!! holds up penis my name is jimmy but u can call me ST3PH3N!!!!!!!! lol...as you can see im very artsy!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet artsy ppl like me ... im 40 years old (im wellread 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 read shakespeare by myself (im an individualist and don't need to serve that in which i no longer believe whether it call itself my home, my fatherland or my church: and i will try to express myself in some mode of life or art as freely as i can and as wholly as I can, using for my defense the only arms I allow myself to use--silence, exile,...
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>>8173187
*friedrich

but nice meme, I laughed
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>>8173241
Can't believe I haven't seen this before if it's pasta, because this one is A+

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About to start reading pic related, what am i in for?
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>>8173120
The best. His "What is Metaphysics?" is a nice, short intro to his core ideas; you may want to start with that
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>>8173120
German Derrida, LITERALLY.
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Das Fragen sucht den Grund für das Seiende, sofern es seiend ist. Den Grund suchen, das heißt: ergründen. Was in Frage gestellt wird, rückt in den Bezug zu Grund. Allein, weil gefragt wird, bleibt offen, ob der Grund ein wahrhaft gründender Grund ist, Gründung erwirkender Ur-grund ist; ob der Grund eine Gründung versagt, Ab-grund ist; ob der Grund weder das Eine noch das Andere ist , sondern nur einen vielleicht notwendigen Schein von Gründung vorgibt und so ein Un-grund ist. Wie auch immer, die Frage sucht...
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What are some good books to tackle depression and bleakness? Lately my father's health has been getting even worse and he simply doesn't seem to improve and moneys getting tight. Someone suggested the enchiridion before but what translation woukd u guys recommend?
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Maybe you shouldn't wallow in your own sadness?
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>>8172981
>Maybe you shouldn't wallow in your own sadness?

This honestly. Read something easy and fun to distract yourself like ASOIAF or something.
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>>8172981
maybe you should go to /adv/ if you want to be an armchair therapist?

to op, look up the exit-level /lit/ chart

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What's your excuse for not reading this yet?
Alternatively, NYRB general thread.
>in b4 Stoner
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>>8172951
Sounds interesting, and I'm always on the lookout for testimonies of bohemian/intellectual groups from the female members' point-of-view.
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it sounds good

ill download it

thanks op
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>falling for the nyrb pr made on this board
n1

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>book has more than 300 pages
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I feel like reading anything less than 800 pages is a waste of time; it's always a fleeting experience.
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>>8172937
And I feel like reading anything more than 300 pages is a waste of time.
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>>8172939
But what's the point? What do you get out of a short book? There's no room for discussion of the events as it's over so soon.

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Are there any books that at least somewhat describe schizophrenia?

Pic unrelated.
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None whatsoever
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>>8172783
DSM
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Memoirs of my nervous illness - Schreber

I'm reading One Hundred Years of Solitude and something is bugging me. I don't remember Colonel Aureliano Buendía and Pilar Ternera sleeping together, so how is Aureliano José Colonel Aureliano's son?
Is it explained in a flashback or something?
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>>8172552
Pilar was the town whore wasn't she? Early in book it talks about how they would both visit her and have sex, so I guess since it's unknown who impregnated her the parentage of the children is shared by both of them.
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>>8172552
Chapter 4
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>>8172566
>Early in book it talks about how they would both visit her and have sex,
I only remember José Arcadio fucking her and talking with Aureliano about it.

>>8172571
Thanks, I have to read it again to remember that part.

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Writefags on /lit/, what is the key to plot?

This is my eternal struggle. My characters are in-depth and unique and well-rounded, by dialogue is interesting and witty, my settings are unique and intriguing, but I've got fuckall idea of where to go with them. They all exist in a kind of stasis. When I sit down to right, I have all these good ideas, but I get caught up on "Yeah, but what actually fucking happens?" and can't write anything.

What's the secret, /lit/?
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>>8172296

probably missing a conflict or a reason for why the characters are doing anything at all.
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shit happens

it doesn't matter what, it's an excuse to get characters talking.
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>>8172301
Well the problem is my conflicts are all philosophical and thematic rather than concrete. Characters are upset by their place in society or struggle to reconcile their preconceived notions of reality with what their reality actually is. All that pretentious stuff is well and good, but it leads to nothing but characters sitting around talking to themselves, each one having their own private existential crisis.

>>8172306
Well no shit, sherlock.
You'd be...
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Does /lit/ agree?

>http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-ways-high-school-makes-you-hate-reading/
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>clickbait shill garbage

no thanks
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>>8172035
>le /pol/ or /r9k/-tier bait article

Kill yourself
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>>8172050
>>8172053
You should read it anyway because it's an opinion of someone relating to the area of literature.

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What do you think is a reasonable number of pages (of regular literature) to assign uni students per night?

I was thinking about 50 pages
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if you want everyone to fail your course, sure
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>>8171747
Depends on literature. 50 is steep for undergrad when they have 4-5 other classes to think about
should shoot for 200-250 a week (this lets them pace themselves and either do 30-40 a day)
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>>8171764
Or binge during the weekend. But it def depends on the difficulty of the text.

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Post any questions you have that don't deserve their own thread. I'll start us off:
Is this the correct usage of the word 'anodyne'?
"The latter, only further added to his dismay, as all he found were anodyne messages of condolence; written only to meet obligation."
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>>8171669
It seems fine to me. Why do you ask?
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is pevear and volokhonsky copy of the master and margarita acceptable? I have glenny as well but I heard that one is trash. Those are the only two I have access to,
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Are there any authors that found their writing to be shit? Inversely any authors who were extremely satisfied and smug about their writing? Give me the extreme examples.

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I'm new here, what does /lit/ think of Hemingway?
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write me a six word story /lit/
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For starters it's Hemmingway.
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>>8171851
Pop pop pop watching motherfuckers drop

does anyone else have a recurring fantasy/desire about being a part of a small circle of literati who develop a cohesive domain of thought? things like the Vienna circle for the most extreme famous case, or the Toronto Semiotics circle for a more generic example

if you were in one of these groups what would you ideally be writing about/commenting on?
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>>8171600
I browse /lit/ sensu depai.
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>>8171634
Holy shit me too.
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>>8171600
I would write lots of letters to other members but only rarely show up to the meetings themselves, to develop an air of mystique about myself. I would probably just discuss lit/philology

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