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How deep of a knowledge of mythology is needed to understand Plato and the rest of the Greeks? I pic related back in September but I can't say how much it stuck. Is Plato going to be making specific callouts to characters like Iphicles or is it more general (i.e. themes and archetypes), and if the former case is true than is it worth rereading Hamilton?
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Hamilton will have almost zero help with reading Greeks, especially on the philosophy side of things. You need very little/no mythology knowledge beyond what you probably already have to read le Greeks.
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>>7572309
If you don't get a reference, you can always look it up in Hamilton's mythology or the internet.
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>>7572317
this.

Reading the Greeks involves actually reading their philosophy and theatrical works, not just a summary of their mythology.

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Someone please post the most recent top-100 book list that was complied just a few months ago.
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>>7572240

*compiled
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Lol wow! that ruined my childhood. xD
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Daily reminder: David Bowie will never write his memoirs.

As a consolation, he did leave us with his list of must-reads. Here:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/01/david-bowie-books-kerouac-milligan

Daily reminder: David Bowie will never write his memoirs.

As a consolation, he did leave us with his list of must-reads. Here:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/01/david-bowie-books-kerouac-milligan

The Age of American Unreason, Susan Jacoby (2008)
The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, Junot Diaz (2007)
The Coast of...
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Octobriana and the Russian Underground, Peter Sadecky (1971)
The Sound of the City: The Rise of Rock and Roll, Charlie Gillett(1970)
The Quest for Christa T, Christa Wolf (1968)
Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: The Golden Age of Rock, Nik Cohn (1968)
The Master and Margarita, Mikhail Bulgakov (1967)
Journey into the Whirlwind, Eugenia Ginzburg (1967)
Last Exit to Brooklyn, Hubert Selby Jr (1966)
In Cold Blood, Truman Capote (1965)
City of Night, John Rechy (1965)
Herzog, Saul Bellow (1964)
Puckoon, Spike Milligan (1963)
The American Way of Death,...
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>>7572077

Is that you Mira?
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>>7572077
That's a really no-must-read-in-a-must-read-list

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I'm looking for some erotica.
I've only historically enjoyed philosophical erotica like de sade, Batialle, and the story of o- but I'm looking for something that can get me hot and bothered - I picked up and read ann rices beauty series - which I liked, but it was too much of "her sex quivered" and "his sword was as big as she imagined it"
I bought a copy of "the siren" by Tiffany reisz but I want more just in case this sucks too
What have you guys read that's hot and preferably kinky
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>>7571878
Why would you ever hope something is a PS4
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>>7571914
Also I can actually help a little bit, I haven't read any of these myself yet but it might be a solid starting point
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>>7571923
The problem is most of that shit isn't actually meant to be sexy or sensual - it's philosophy and art that is usually quite repulsive sexually

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>starting with the Greeks
>read the Oresteia of Aeschylus
>can't read any other Greek drama now because it all seems so incomplete

Did I done goof?
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Euripides > Aeschylus
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>>7572332
pleb
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>>7571843
Euripides' Oedipus stuff gives the illusion of being complete

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What kind of books does your girlfriend read /lit/?

Is she more patrician or less patrician than you?
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Do we really need three threads about what women read? Seriously, fuck off back to r9k.
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>>7571599
>need

Nice spook, son
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>tfw no qt gf who who reads at exactly the same pace as me

Instead I am stuck with a hairy man who reads just slow enough that I have to wait to turn the page

>authors who were right about everything
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I wanna read propagandistic, even naive, socialist/communist fiction. Even more brainless and evident than Mother by Gorki, Eisenstein movies and all that shit. I want literary equivalents to pic related. Is there any specially prominent novel of that kind?
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Das Kapital
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>>7571623
Kek'd
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>>7571495
Love on the dole.

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This is a terrible book. I'm about 250 pages in. There's so much jumping, no real plot yet, no "main character(s)" for that matter. Every section seems to have a new major character who fucks around and doesn't accomplish anything. Has anyone else read this book? Does it get better? Help, because I'm considering using my copy for kindling.
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It's pomo. Some people just can't stand pomo.
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Should have read The Savage Detectives instead desu senpai
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take it as a collection of novellas, each of which is highly plot-based, instead of a novel.

or make worthless threads bitching about a book you haven't finished

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I met a girl that said she reads, I asked her what she thought of Steinbeck because I figured he is well known enough. She had no idea who he was, her two favorite authors were
>a. John Grisham
>b. Nicolas Sparks
It was a complete turnoff. Where did I go wrong?
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Why even bother talking to girls about this shit like this and taking it seriously? The real conversation you should be having takes place in the subtext, the body language, the emoting, etc. Getting your panties in a bunch because some girl doesn't like lit tier books is a good way to remain virginal.
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>>7571437
It's the same for film buffs dude, just bite the bullet and accept that a pretentious attitude is going to be seen as a reaction relative to the norm whether you have it or not.

Accept that most people are forever plebs and either ignore the topic or recommend her books and say your back list is 100 strong so you won't have time for hers... that's the way it should be for women, they don't want to be influential they want to be known of and influenced.
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>>7571442

It just irked me hard.

I don't even know what I expected.

I think this board is too obsessed with the classics and other old ass shit. Sure the classics are classic, and the old greats are great, but if we don't look to the future; try and stay on the frontier of this artform, then we'll be a bunch of assholes talking about the same shit over and over again forever. More so then we are now.

So, in the last 5-10 years: What books do you think were instant classics? What authors do you feel represent the best living literary voice?
Other stuff. More words.

Go.
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The Pale King
Bleeding Edge


thats about it
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Please leave.
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Looking for 50 shades of player one was pretty good

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How articulate are you? Is being articulate an indication of being well read?
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>>7571198

Very, yes.
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>How articulate are you?
what criteria are you using?
>Is being articulate an indication of being well read?
no.
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It seems to me that people get bent out of shape over the term "feminist" or related labels because they don't explicitly etymologically make room for the perpetually disenfranchised white heterosexual male. Grow the fuck up. That's like saying that you believe slavery should be abolished, but don't consider yourself an abolitionist because the term only deals with a struggle faced by black folks. That you believe Jews should have their own homeland, but don't consider yourself a Zionist because the term isn't inclusive to gentiles. That you think gay people should have equal rights as straight people, but don't support "gay rights" because the movement isn't called "all rights".

Using this logic, no equal rights movement in history or today deserves its own label and they should be neatly boiled down to a single"humanist" entity (we'll ignore the ridiculous distortion of the term "humanist" here and save that for a future discussion). The fact of the matter is that equal rights movements throughout history have emphasized empowering the disenfranchised and often took on names that reflected the group they were seeking equality for. Feminism is about attaining genuine equality for women, hence the name. People who get caught up on the semantics are generally just looking for a reason to oppose gender equality in general and are far from the "humanist" egalitarians they purport to be.

News flash - if you call yourself an egalitarian yet believe that the social status quo among the genders is acceptable, then you're not an egalitarian.
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>>7571182
Why do indians always looks so dirty?
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>>7571185
genetics
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>>7571182

>the perpetually disenfranchised white heterosexual male

This is why you're making enemies. You paint the heterosexual white male as the lord of all existence, failing utterly to identify that he is just yet another slave to the capitalist system, just as stifled in expression as most other groups, and faces problems unique to him self. You do this casually and without thought. Microaggressive bitch.

Feminists are the useful idiots of capitalism. They misidentify...
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hell be fine
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dont you fucking dare
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Dellilo hell be just fine
Roth hell be just fine
McCarthy hell be just fine
Bloom hell be just fine
Pynchon hell be just fine

for the record
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>>7571164
McElroy hell be just fine
Gass hell be just fine

What do you all know about SJC?
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It's not the one in New York.
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>>7571055
Yes
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i know it is a great books school that have two campuses, annapolis and santa fe. was looking to transfer to annapolis my soph yr but everyone in my life talked me out of it. said the degree from there wouldn't have been practical. so i stayed the course and got a biz degree. currently unemployed. REAL PRACTICAL EVERYONE. anyway, they give away their reading lists online, good stuff if you want to read thru their curriculum yourself which ive been doing for years

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