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I find it interesting that in an age when we're told that reading is on the decline and that the Internet has shortened all of our attention spans, that instead of fiction readers shifting to short stories or novellas, that it actually seems like things have gone completely the other way. It seems like we're living in a time when novelists are taking on huge, epic, multi-book projects.

>Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin
>My Struggle by Karl Ove Knausgaard
>The Neapolitan...
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As someone who enjoys single books in the ~250 page region this trend towards trilogies of huge books digusts me.
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That is interesting, I have no explanation for it. Given the general cultural context I'd expect novellas or short books of aphorisms to be all the rage, but literature seems to have gone the other way.
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While general readership is definitely in decline the internet has given a market to niche interests (which reading has, to a certain degree, become). So while the attention span of the average person has definitely decreased there has also sprung up a new market of reading enthusiasts who are precisely the market for epic, sprawling, literary series

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Who /OnlyReadsShortStories/ here?
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>>7586035
what are some quintessential short classics litizens? Afaik there is Dubliners, Notes from Underground and the Stranger
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>>7586045
Kafka, m8
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>>7586045
Vonnegut actually has some very beautiful short stories. His style lends more to them, i think.

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thoughts? what's the series comparable to?

i'm expecting something like a Burroughs story minus the perversions
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>>7585975
I've so far only read City of Glass, and absolutely loved it.
It nailed the whole noir-pulp crime atmosphere, and all the way along had these faint little twists and cliches come up that make you feel all giddy for having recognized them.

I honestly haven't read too much like it.
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bump
this should be talked about
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I think of calvino and borges, maybe murakami as a contemporary. I haven't read eco but from what I understand he does the "literary take on genre fic" well.

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Hi /lit/
First of all , English is not my mother tongue and i have a question about poetry
i know it is a stupid question but is it necessary to use a fixed metric system in poet ?
sorry for my bad english
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No.
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It's not necessary, take a look at shit like Ginsberg
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>>7585936
Shortest answer: No.

Short answer: Not anymore.

Longer answer: No, but no great poetry is truly 'meterless' either in a very loose sense.

Hello /lit/ I know barely anything about literature, but I've been writing something as an outlet for my creativity, I've done this before and usually I simply stop writing within days but suprisingly enough I find myself still developing the story further and realising the growing possibility that I somehow might actually finish a book. I have no idea if it's good or not and I won't bother you with it, just with this question : I am a foreinger but I'm writing the book in english, is it even possible for a random foreinger to get a publisher to release...
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>>7585861
Foreigner here too. As much as I would like to write in english too, I think it is a bad idea. Where are you from?
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>>7585861
Getting picked up by a big publishing house is harder than ever for anyone. Self publishing on places like Amazon is as easy as formatting and uploading.

But you're thinking too far ahead. Keep writing, find people to give criticism, and get native English speakers to fix the grammar.
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>>7585861
More Schizophrenic John comics.

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Can somebody elucidate the distinction between Universality and Necessity? It seems to me that universality would dictate necessity, but I'm inclined to believe that, despite how I feel, this is not the case. Can someone provide me with an example of something that is universal but not necessary?
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I think of it this way:

If x is universal, then we always observe x even though we can imagine and/or conceive of not observing it.

If y is necessary, the it is impossible to imagine and/or conceive of not-y, whether we observe y only once or thousands of times.

For example:

We can discover that some fact about nature is always and everywhere observed, and yet think without contradiction of nature being different. The specific rate of gravitation is an example of this, or the specific...
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>>7586019
thank you very much, anon!! this rly helps :^)
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>>7586067

Happy to! Refer to Critique of Pure Reason B3-B6, especially the ways that Kant describes (and largely cancels out) the distinction differently from the way I do.

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What do you think is the most beneficial entry path into writing for a novice? (short stories, poetry, nonfiction essays, novel, letters, etc.)
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what's the saying? something, something, you start with poetry and then in realizing your mediocrity expand the length to short story, novel. and finally epic.
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Write essays about literature.
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I forgot who recommended it, and it's probably a mix of some writers.
Anyway it was:
Write short stories, a lot of short stories. This is supposed to help you understand the basic formula of writing a story (like being able to finish it, which is hard if you're a newb).
Have your stories follow a path, and the path is clear in your head.
The protagonist must desire something and is looking for something, it may be some ephemeral shit or some super important save the world tier shit, but the thing is to write a protagonist who wants something so that he...
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>mfw relatives used my book collection as fire wood
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>>7585822

Come back home Don Quijote, we miss you and we're worried about you.
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What kind of fucking barbarians do you share blood with?

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little-known european writers? specially poets and philosophers. What works do you recommend /lit/?
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Luigi Pirandello
Carlo Bernari
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Elena Ferrante
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>>7585665
>won a nobel prize
>"little-known"
>>7585666
nice satanic trips but ferrante is literally on display in every bookshop in a reasonably sized city these days in the states, let alone europe

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Which writer best captured the city of Petersburg?
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Dosty
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>>7585586
Gogol.
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Nikazander Tolstoevsky

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How good is this book?
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>>7585462
Only okay to be honest Dersu.

Anyone read this?

I enjoyed 'Lucked Out' by the vanity fair author and his 70s NY.
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I've read interviews with him and he seems like a fraud. Saged and hidden.
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>>7585273
I mean Lucking Out by James Wolcott
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>>7585273
I too want to see what kind of book gets a two-million dollar advance.

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Is it worth reading? Is it better than the amazing film?
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Yea it's fantastic. Got CIA shilled but it's still quite nice.
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Also I'm not usually one to hop on the P&V are shit train but I think they missed the mark on this book, definitely get the older Hayward/Harari translation from the 50s.
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Stelnikov was literally cucked to death

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If you get bummed out a second time in a row, are you revastated?
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Who is this trouser arouser?
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>>7585187
some dude
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>>7585162
If your rectum has already been pulled inside out in the fight once, I doubt the second time is going to wrap it back into its former state, no matter how vast the rump -- unless perhaps it constitute the totality of your person.

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>favorite book
>Too biased to see best and worst aspects of this series
Anyone else read this and have some critical opinions?
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It's a pity he can't write, because the dick jokes aren't bad.

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