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Can someone explain to me the difference between Debord and Baudrillard's thought. In particular the difference between Hyper-reality and the spectacular society.
At face value the two critical systems seem overly similar. Did Baudrillard take ideas from Debord, or is there a lot that I'm missing
>>7615948
it's all bullshit anyway
Debord is useless to read without having read Marx and Lukacs.
>>7615948
If you can't see the difference then tyre too retarded to be reading them
How does /lit / feel about this?
fine for genre fiction since they are rarely read more than once
Disgusting and abhorrent
>>7615601
You mean that disgusting Slav language?
Thoughts on this book and on Hobsbawm in general? I would like to read pic related and the others 3 books, but first I want to know what is /lit/'s opinion on him.
>>7615475
Marxist, revisionist, apologetic hack
Marxist propagandist. He writes a supposed world history but vital shit like the Franco-Prussian War, the decline of China/rise of Japan and America's wars of expansion are barely mentioned.
>>7615579
too right
Read some of his stuff when studying identity and Nationalism, I think he's very reductionist, typical old school marxist
Is reading Das Kapital worthwhile? I am interested in the backgrounds of Marxist theory but I have heard it is mostly irrelevant to modern Marxism
>>7615248
Yes it is. Read it and formulate your on thoughts on it.
if you don't have a grasp on classical economics then don't read Das Kapital until you do
>>7615268
true dat
Today I found A Clockwork Orange in a trash bin and took it with me. Should it have stayed there?
Yes.
maybe, define "it"
>>7615094
Yes, you should have stayed in the trash.
Is Balzac worth it?
define "it"
>>7615075
Sorry should have been clearer. Is his novels worth reading ? If so where should I start?
I'm currently reading "La Peau de chagrin" while taking hot bath and drinking coffee. Very comfy.
Where do you spend most your time reading? At a desk with a lamp or somewhere more creative? What about reading in public?
At my desk, and I hope anyone who reads in public a painful death. Fucking attention whores.
>>7614757
in my living room
in coffee shops
at the park if its nice and im feeling frisky
>the only problem is do i leave my book on the table or take with with me when i go talk to that qt
>>7614757
On my couch. I pretty much only read in public when I want to leave the apartment because maintenance staff are working on something. I live in San Francisco, so reading in public is just asking to be bothered by junkie homeless people and/or loud niggers.
How would people react if the government started banning and burning certain books?
>>7614664
carefully save those books, copy them, and proliferate them, and ensure that they are seen by new generations.
Horde them, copy, distribute.
And prepare for armed insurrection.
>>7614664
they already do
What I'm reading?
bok
>>7614469
A novel. A particularly good one. Good deal. Now delete this thread.
V.
For all its reputation it's actually a pretty straightforward book. It just takes a while to figure how Benny's world and Stencil's worlds fit together. But no, it's almost too simple when you come to brass tacks.
Any audiobook narrators here? Or, anyone with a british accent here?
yes im spanish what do you need?
>>7614458
do you have a thick accent?
>>7614495
I want a thick accent.
How does /lit/ think of the economist?
that it's not literature
>>7613976
I used to have a paid subscription to the Economist. To be honest, I never read it. I only signed up because I was at a point in my life where I desperately wanted to be more sophisticated, or at least appear that way, and it happened to be one of the subscriptions that my sister was selling for a school fundraiser.
I also subscribed to the Wall Street Journal and would pull it out at school so people would think I was super mature with my OCBD shirts and desert boots.
Now I only sometimes read The New Criterion.
Rothschild-owned NWO garbage
What's the happy medium in expressing your ideas/opinions/conclusions between blatantly listing them through a character and symbolism?
I don't know any other ways; tips, recs anything
please
(i don't know who the girl in pic is)
Who... oh.
write the world as you see it and your views will seep in
>>7612996
I do that, but it seems almost too subtle. Any good recs on lit that does just that?
What do you think of vernacular speech?
Do you think that the English we all speak is a bastardization, a gross perversion and a twisted inferior sister to the language employed by great english authors?
I read lolita and thoroughly enjoyed how it was written. It also made me realize how bland, dull and ugly my speech is. I have become more and more aware of how inarticulate I am. And how depressingly boring my speech is when compared to the beautiful prose I read in books like lolita and frankenstein.
I don't want to be a fedora-wearing thesaurus quoting...
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I dunno, sure.
>>7615529
Thanks for the contribution to the thread anon.
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE BE LIKE THE CHARACTERS IN MY BOOKS WAAAAHHH
Starting with the greeks.
Someone recently recommended "A history of western philosophy" by Bertrand Russell to me in order to get a general overview of western philosophy before diving deep into specific philosophers and authors.
In this following chart:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/3/3f/Start_with_the_greeks.jpg
the starting points are "Mythology- Edith Hamilton" and "The Illiad-Homer. Would you advise going through russell's book first and then moving on to edith hamilton?
Russel's book is in no way a "good start" to reading the greeks and whoever recommended that as a starting point was an idiot.
Russel is a biased fuck throughout the entire book and he outright dismisses philosophies he doesn't understand.
>>7612734
And those he didn't like
>>7612720
Do you want to engage with western philosophy?
Read the works of philosophers/those that inspired philosophers
Do you want to read somebody's opinion of western philosophy?
Read shit like the Russell book
Who the FUCK remember?
I always thought that Tomorrow When the War Began was the best series ever.
>>7609214
ausfag?
the brothers karamazov
