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Hi /lit/. Could you please recommend me which translations I should prefer for:

1. Marcus Aurelius (Meditations or other works)
2. Seneca
3. Epictetus

Who are good translator for each of their works?
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Get the Everyman for Marco
OWC for others
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Gregory Hays for Marcus
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>>7615208
>>7615155

A.S.L. Farquharson is the translator for Everyman Classic's edition of Meditations

Should I go for gregory hays or the above guy?

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Why are the Greeks so revered? I get that they started the tradition but why does that mean we should allude to them and study them?
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>>7615100
It has continuously shaped the Western aesthetics and still deeply influence our culture today. I don't think there's anything culture still studied and held as such a model centuries and centuries after.
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>>7615100
Because they started everything and they did it better with a smaller population and with considerably worse technology.
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is there any good articles/videos on the importance of the greeks?

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How does one even keep current with literature being released?
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>>7614956
>reading contemporary literature
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>>7614964
>memeing this hard
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You'll have to settle for Tao Lin like the rest of us

Has anyone read a translated Ulysses?
I have a spanish translation (J. Salas Subirat), I'm unsure if it'd be better to read the translation before the original or simply go for it and read it english.
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>>7614207
>mfw my city on 4chan

I honestly don't know. I've seen it lying around in bookstores and I've leafed through one, but I haven't read any reviews of it. Try looking up reviews which focus on the translation.

Oh, and obligatory:
>translation
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>see translation of Ulysses in my native language
>they literally fucked up the title of the book

Thank Christ I'm fluent in English.
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>>7615255
Why? French, translated, literature is better than English. I wish I was born in Normandy.

Is there a fantasy book that actually touches on philosophy in some meaningful way (and I don't mean gay shit like "courage").
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not really. i say this as someone that loves fantasy.
the closest i can think of is Only Begotten Daughter by James Morrow which is about the daughter of god, jesus' sister.
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Pilgrim's Progress
Kappa
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath
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Book of the New Sun
Once and Future King
Prince of Nothing

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What are some classic male novels?

Also, why aren't there any novels for men today?
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because women read more than men today, and identity politics affiliates books market better than literature today
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because men are plebs these days

and cormac is sorta manly, even if he's genre fiction tier
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>>7613324
Why, how do we get more men to read?

>>7613320
Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead: funny that the ideal man was written by a woman.

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I want to read Shakespeare /lit/, but I'm completely lost when it comes to choosing editions. I'm talking physical books.
What are the best options for someone that wants to read and understand him? (I clarify this because I know there's plenty of editions meant for study with endless footnotes). Should I go for individual books for every of his major works? Should I stick with a complete collection perhaps? In any case, which editions?
Pic related.
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been spending months looking for shakespeare editions. your options are super limited if you want individual editions - all paperback, arden or norton are generally recommended. oxford is not a bad choice either.

for complete one volume tomes, go for riverside or pelican.

is this your first time reading shakespeare? if so you might want something that's heavier on the footnotes to explain syntax and vocabulary.
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>>7613030
How many annotations, footnotes, explanations and essays do you want for each play?
Do you want a collected works or individual books?
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>>7613038
Not OP but I have the Arden version of hamlet and there are way too many notes. Literally 3/4 of the page is explanation and 1/4 is the actual play. It makes any kind of flow impossible.
After that I bought the rest in the modern library rsc editions. They explain the more archaic words or expressions that we wouldn't know currently. 1 essay is included.
Shakespeare isn't that hard to understand and I think that Arden and probably Norton overdue the notes unless you want to be a Shakespeare scholar.

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What is the worst book you had to read for your English/literature courses in high school, /lit/? The best?

For me, the worst:
>pic related
The best:
>Nineteen Eighty Four
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the scarlett letter was the worst
cant think of one i actually liked that much but song of solomon was cool freshman year
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>>7616534
Goddam that protag was an absolute cunt
there is this white knight that browses this board that defends this shitty book
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Best
>GR
Worst
>The Great Gatsby

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I am supposed to write a journal entry from the perspective of a character from Hamlet. I am writing about the use of double meaning by Hamlet himself. So far I have "to be or not to be" as a double meaning for suicide and homicide, and I have "get thee to a nunnery" as a double meaning of calling Ophelia a whore and insisting she goes to an actual nunnery. Can anyone give me another example?

Only rule is that it must be between Act 1 and Act 3.

All help is appreciated.
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>>7616468
The first dialogue between Hamlet and his uncle about "less than kin" or something like that. I'm mexican so I only coud grasp such things thanks to the endnotes. Try an edition that provides you with a lot of notes even if most are obvious.
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>>7616581
To clarify: "kind" has a double, if not triple, meaning.

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Can people recommend me some high fantasy please?
Note: I really enjoyed the Kingkiller Chronicles thus far so maybe I like shit books.
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>>7616297
1.moontide quartet (I did not like it but maybe you will)
2.runelords by David Farland (I did not like it but maybe you will)
Im assuming you read everything by Brandon Sanderson,joe abercrombie,terry goodkind,Mark Lawrence.
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Malazan if you can live without handholding
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>>7616297
The Godlanders War by Aaron Pogue

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After all these years, I finally pick'd up The Legacy of the Totalitarianism in a Tundra. Read three pages, and laughed at every paragraph. So bad it's good.
If it is funny all they way through I may end reading it all.
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>>7616290
Really? You mean it? But this is excellent news, most excellent! He finally pick'd it up, o happy day! The nights I've spent laid awake just wondering, will he read it soon? Will he ever? You don't know what this means to me. And after all these years? You know, the first year after it was released I kept saying to myself "It's okay. Maybe he just has other things to read, first." then the second and third years came and went and I must admit, then I began to lose hope. I had to remind...
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>>7616401
I'm glad it makes you happy :D

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Can you learn about people and truths from literature. Learning from the authors experience inserted in to their works. By literature I mean works like "War and Peace.
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Answer me you cunts.
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>>7616254

somebody edit that book to Infinite Jest
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>>7616342
Oh young one. Literature is question marks disguised as answers.

I want to read his works. Is there a recommended reading order? Which books should I keep in mind?
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start with the first.
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Correct Order to Read Faulkner
1 As I Lay Dying
2 Light in August
3 The Sound and The Fury
4. Absalom, Absalom!
5. Go Down Moses
6. The Hamlet

then whatever order you feel like, those are his best though
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as i lay dying is a good place to start. I wouldn't recommend diving into TSaTF

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Where do I start with this gent? Is How to Read and Why a good place to start?
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>>7616145
You stupid nigger, read his recommendations not anything he actually wrote. I assure you, wikipedia is a good start and end

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Western_Canon:_The_Books_and_School_of_the_Ages
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>>7616155

>read things he recommended

I actually *want* to read things *he* wrote. That is why I am asking which book of his is a good introductory read.
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>>7616185
how to read and why is still a recommendation of on the things to read, if it's not his recommendation it's his take on religion
his one novel is kind of bad but his religion ones are pretty good
he is a critic he tells you what is good for consumption and why

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The new testament is basically written in "wardine be cry" language. Koine greek was a bastardized patois not respected in the world of greek literature.
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The New Testament is boring as fuck. The Old Testament has all these wonderful stories about the meaning of hardship and the personal characters of great men, and then the New Testament is just like, "Believe and you'll be saved".
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>>7616120
Which is exactly why it worked so well.

You don't need to be a hero, see. You just need this one weird tip! Yes, I know there's more to it than that.
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>>7616127
>>7616120

The consistent referencing and repainting of the old testament is probably its only strength. By referencing greater literature than itself it succeeds in garnering respect and also gets people caught up in the scholarship of all the references.

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