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So lit, i just finished the brothers karamasow and completly loved it! I have already read the other books by dostojevsky (except the idoit), but my question is were do i continue from here?
Can you recommend me authors or books that are as immersive and philosophical.
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>>8288292
Tolstoy, Shakespeare, Cervantes

I may get shit for this, but I like Kazantzakis in a similar way.
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>>8288292
How the fuck did you enjoy this book? I'm like 1/3rd through it and have to force myself to keep going.
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>>8288305
Why would you get shit for that? What's his reputation?

I have most of his books in Greek but haven't got around to reading them yet.

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hey /lit/,

how many rejection letters have you gotten so far? I've gotten eight so far. At least the letters are getting more personalized. One was even from an editor who told me which of my poems he liked. One letter said my language was beautiful but comes off as pretentious without a story to back it up.

Been popping oxycodone and drinking nyquil, so I expect I'm depressed, but I've been compiling my poems again to resend to other magazines.

How do you deal with rejection?
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People still writes poems in 2016? And worse, there are people who reads poem made in 2016? Damn.
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>>8288153

At least you've mustered the courage to send your shit in rather than leaving it rotting in an infinitely expanding "needs-more-editing" pile.
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>>8288162
Yeah, but my classmate (who I attended poetry class with) already had a poem submitted in our university's magazine for undergraduates. I got nothing to my name despite praise from my professors who forget me after a semester.

>>8288154
yeah?

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what is your experience with faulkner?

which book did you start with and in what order did you read from there?

I'm reading As I Lay Dying, which is the first I've read by him and I'm definitely enjoying it even though I struggled at first with the Southern setting that I feel like I've over-read. But instead of simply an exposition of certain themes relating to the region like poverty, racism, Southern culture, etc. the narrative unfolds through the character's experiences relating to their environment with reference to upbringing and...
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My first three Faulkner books were As I Lay Dying, The Sound and the Fury, and Absalom, Absalom. It got me hooked on Faulkner for life, and now I've read damn near everything he wrote. I don't think anything surpasses Absalom for me though.
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>>8288149
Agree, Absalom is his best but do not read it first.
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>>8288129
i had an all faulkner class with one of the best professors at georgetown who had taught the course for twenty years. it was pretty legendary, but i still think he's just okay and i dont really plan to re-read any of his stuff.

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The saddest part of /lit/;

It is a vessel of free speech, and that speech is poisoned. What could be accomplished if the lesser minds were outcast?

How do we save a place with true potential for enlightenment of man, from the denigration the soul by idiocy and memes?
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>>8288102
There's one thing and one thing only that the mods could do to immensely improve the board, instantly, overnight, and that's facilitate more threads about David Foster Wallace. Create them, nurture the ones that exist, guide the discussions, and make sure they stay on track. If we're here to discuss literature, ultimately, we are here to discuss David Foster Wallace. There is no way for a person to grasp the full implications of Infinite Jest and not realize this. We're talking about the smartest...
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>>8288102
you could start by leaving, and never coming back
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>>8288102
We need to make the following required reading before you're allowed to post:
>The Greeks
>My Diary
desu

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What the fuck is the point of reading this when Pynchon just makes three obscure pop culture references every page that I don't understand since I'm too young

Maybe I should stick to more straight forward books like Hemingway
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you're fucking stupid

>What the fuck is the point of reading this when Pynchon just makes three obscure pop culture references every page that I don't understand since I'm too young
i'm guessing you didn't even try reading it. only /lit/ would give this impression of gravity's rainbow. or, maybe you're just too thick to understand the book and are trying to blame it on an abundance of references.
any way you look at it you're a fuckin mong who wouldn't be able to appreciate hemingway either

conclusion:...
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>>8288107
Early on in the book, he goes on an extended metaphor about an adenoid, which is a reference to a Chaplin movie. There are plenty of other references to historical people and the like that I simply do not understand, perhaps because I am not American
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>reading reviews of this on Amazon
>it's recommended that you buy a SEPARATE book and read that first, as it explains all of the references

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What's the literary equivalent of this?
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>>8288010
Finnegan's wake
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my diary t b h
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>>8288015
>Finnegan's
>'s

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Thomas Pynchon is now the author of your favorite novel. What changes?
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It becomes an unreadable piece of garbage.
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Nothing
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I don't know. I haven't read Thomas Pynchon

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>6050 word essay due monday
>can't stop reading Nietzsche
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>8 hours of sleep due tomorrow morning
>can't stop checking the threads
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>Nothing due any day
>Can't stop being stressed and feeling like I'm under pressure
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>no friends
>no family
>no gf
>poor
>dumb
>ugly
>fat
>bad eyesight, bad hearing, bad balance
>dying within 60 years
>never going to contribute to humanity
>wondering if I should kill myself and get it over with
>just...
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Jesus Christ. Why are Rene Guénon and Evola such windbags?
They aren't even trying to be poetic, they just draw out their damn points for pages.
I could sum up the entirity of The Reign of Quantity, look
"By Quality and Quantity, I basically mean immaterial and material. Modern society, with it's Scientism and Social Progressivism has put such an amount of emphasis on the material that it's almost the apocalypse. We need to focus on Metaphysical Concepts nao."

I would understand if they were trying to be poetic. I would understand if...
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>>8287798
Hehe. Just another leftist unable to comprehend the word of the redpill.
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>>8287800
simply ebin
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>>8287798
>i have no imagination

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What's your opinion on Haruki Murakami?
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>>8287765
This man, in my country, he is nothing
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hes a qt
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His books aren't as bad as their reputation on /lit/

There still not that great, don't get me wrong.

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How are some good poems that depict violence in stark and interesting ways?
I've already read Homer and Ovid
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Sir Gawain and the Greentexter.

Some books of the Bible too (e.g. the Book of Job, the Psalms, the book of Lamentations, etc).

First World War poetry.

The Aeneid.

The Faerie Queene.
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>>8287261
thanks! will check out the faerie queen
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>>8287206
Leda and the Swan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4CJ7h3mX4Q

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does this meme board actually hate pic related for e cred?

I havent read a single thing from him besides the sunset quote but I find his interviews and the such pretty soothing background noise
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>>8286617
You know, reddit is probably more your speed.
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>>8286621
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the smartest guy around?! Oh my God.


I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little elitist reply up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass,...
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>>8286634
Start with the greeks.

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Serious Question. How much of a factor is talent in determining how good of a writer someone can be? Is writing something that can be mastered by everyone, or are some people naturally predispositioned to be amazing writers?
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Talent will always be a thing. But discipline can get you far.
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>>8286116
People tell me I have talent all the time, but my writing is still bad. If I wrote a book that had a phenomenal plot, every reader above the age of 16 would put it down for bad prose. How can I improve? How can I get to the level where I can express my thoughts beautifully and create art on a page? Taking classes are not an option as of right now, but I have all the free time in the world and all the motivation, I just need a direction to go in
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>>8287551
Some general advice: read more, watch more, learn more, experience more, and write more. I empathize with you, but you have to realize that it's a long, steady process and real success only comes if you play the long game.

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I want to detach myself mentally from the shackles that are human nature. I think if one is able to intellectually make sense of it all, their conscious may overcome their subconscious.

It is untenable that humans are conscious organisms ingrained with the biological imperative of having to spread their genes and continue their tribe (in-group, or faction or whatever) the same way all organisms on this planet function. Of course, complex psychological factors come into play and translate these otherwise basic concepts into complex, and sometimes, misguided manifestations....
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- there is no 'white' tribe because there are many competing political (tribal) factions that are white, and it is also historically so. There is no 'white' tribal leader. Some white 'tribesmen' see others as the nemesis - white Americans and white Russians. The other problem is all of these people all have different associations and different ideas - varying to such extreme extents 'micro-tribes' are found as to how issues should be addressed. The English and Scottish loathed...
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>>8285295
Kys
Or go to a Buddhist temple.
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>>8285295
I would die if the person in that picture was a guy.

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Why would anyone take advice from s.o. who killed himself seriously? Isn't that pretty much the definition of failure at life?
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>definition of failure at life
>life

life means nothing in long run, most people with """"full"""" and """"successful""" lives dont write masterpieces and they are soon forgotten even by their own children, while authors eternal fame lasts forever and ever
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Everyone dies so I guess everyone fails at life. Suicides just control when and where.
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Killing oneself is the ultimate form of book promotion.

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