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Face it, /lit/. Pomo aesthetic is long dead. In Italy, Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan novels are getting all the attention with their crude, direct style. In Norway, and almost everywhere else, Knausgard is hypnotizing people with his raw portrait of the best and the worst in him. In France, Carrère is writing long autobiographical novels, intertwined with "grand" narratives to elevate his everyday existence to the stuff of legend. In the US, Wallace tried his hand at being a modern Tolstoi, but he was too deep into the linguistic and structural gimmicks of Pynchon...
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>>7652356
Wallace was trying to be Dostoevsky*. My bad.
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>>7652356

Have you been paying attention to anything recently? Post-Modernism may have led to Post-Irony, which was defeated by New Sincerety, as you pointed out, but New Sincerety is obviously being replaced with Post-Sincerety.
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>>7652364
Provide examples, please. Carrère's latest novel is from last year, and Knausgard and Ferrante just got translated into English two years ago, and they're still in progress of being published in Spanish. What the hell is Post-Sincerity?

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>tfw your writer dad wont lend you kinkergaard's diary because you won't "understand it"
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start with the Greeks
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>tfw Christian grandma living in Alabama wrote the worst book I've ever touched or seen

She often changed between past and present tense from sentence to sentence.
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Have to give a presentation on six Greek tragedies (Oedipus Rex, Antigone, Hippolytus and the Orestiad) in three weeks. So far I've read the first three and am about to get into the Aeschylus. As secondary material I've got Aristotle's Poetics, Nietzsche's Birth of Tragedy and Steiner's Death of Tragedy. Any other insightful or theoretical books on the subject?
Also, Greek tragedy general. So far, Euripides has been the worst. He literally needs Aphrodite and Artemis to come and solve his shit for him.
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>thinking Deus Ex Machina is a valid criticism

Also, Longinus
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>>7652232
I just find that Sophocles more subtle depiction of divinity resonates best with me. Besides, it's a play. I think the choices of the characters ought to explain and solve the plot, not a two-page explanation by an outside speaker.
Why Longinus, though? I know he has an Ars Poetica, but I didn't know he talked about tragedy. Could you explain?
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>>7652246
>Why Longinus, though?
Say his name. Long (va)Ginas. :DDDD EPIC

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How does /lit/ feel about Redwall?
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I liked it
always made me hungry tho
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for the record, i don't frequent this board. I assume, however, that you are as critical (and borderline autistic) as the rest of the site, so I'm curious to hear your opinions on the series i so enjoyed in my youth.

And yes, I salivate at the memory of the food described in the books.
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>all the stories follow the same basic pattern
>some types of animals are inherently evil

Aside of that I really like them, loved them as a child

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Are there any steampunk books that are actually good? I mean, we all think blimps are cool but not when you have to slog through a ton of YA and shitty Sci-Fi. Gross-ass picture related.
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have you read any of them?
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Hah. No.
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>>7651523
Many when I was younger. None of them really hold up though.

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What's the difference between pirating an ebook and reading a book from the library?
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>>7651265
bout tree fiddy
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you're less likely to contract some horrible disease left by the previous reader licking their fingertips to turn the pages of a library book, than you are getting software trojans by going to those god-awful russian "free" book sites. but only just.
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>>7651265

Well you waste a shit ton of time at the library just to find out they don't have a book. If you want an ebook you "Rent" itwhich is bullshit. The employees don't read so if you're looking for a fresh view you won't find it. I guess you're likely to find an entertaining piece of shit.

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How can you learn to express yourself?

I'm not even talking about emotions.

I notice sometimes if you say the exact same information to someone but phrase it in a certain way that are more likely to agree with you.

I'm sure you've all read a post or an argument and thought "that's exactly what I was trying to say", but could never write something that good yourself.

How do I learn to express myself in a way that other people like?

I have asperger by the way.
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I learned through crochet. Which I learned from Molly and the Cumfy couch.
Knit one, perl two. It was a coded message.
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>>7651225
Learn classic rhetoric
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>>7651225
Think of what express means here

It means to push out, like one would express a cyst, or a bowel movement.

It feels good to express something that has built up a lot of pressure. People call it cathartic.

Art is really the same as popping zits

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Why was Charlie Weasley's story the best?
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>>7651190
kys
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>>7651198
Kys me you fool.
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>>7651190
I went to the Yale University bookstore and bought and read a copy of "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs." I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous....
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What does /lit/ thinks of this book?
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i'd love to let you know but the only physical copies are 50$ and I'm not buying that when i can get moby dick for less than 10$ online
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>>7651036
Should be /lit/core tbqh familia
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Fake and gay

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Why is Shakespeare considered highbrow? Dude was pretty much writing for the plebs.
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A scholarly life could be built around the study of him. What are you even talking about?
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>>7650877
>A scholarly life could be built around the study of him.

though it's a very competitive field which tends to bring very little light to our understanding of his plays, and you're best not getting into it
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>>7650885

Granted but it makes the question as to why he is highbrow quite obvious.

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Bakunin
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>>7650842
nice theread
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爆人
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bakunin is an idiot

t. marx

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>be 24 year old virgo
>everything i write ends up partly dealing with sexual frustration in some way
it keeps happening and i don't mean it to

does your subconscious fuck with your writing too?
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Don't put pussy on a pedestal
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>>7650669
just b urself
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>>7650675

This.

Go get a hooker a few times and you will get confidence. Those pros will help you build up your skills so you know you have skills and you're good to go when potential gf material finally shows up.

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Hey there /lit/, posting this from my phone, so I didn't have a better picture.

Comic artist/ theorist here, I was hoping /lit/ could help me answer a question. I'm writing a story for a graphic novel and I've developed a kind of character dynamic that I don't think has ever come up before. Then again, what do I know, I'm a comic artist, I don't read as many books as anyone here probably has.
Anyways my question is this:

My antagonist is public figure that "must not be seen" as far as his antagonistic characteristics...
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Archetype: snoo
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Now obviously the fact that the white cloaked character is A.) Cloaked and B.) Visually similar to the Black Cloaked character makes them suspicious.
I do however, have red herrings left and right for the identities of the cloaked figures throughout the story.
I even intend for parts where I "show" parts of their face or other features that will lead the reader to believe that the cloaked figures are actually someone else.
When in fact, they are merely puppets made by the godlike powers of the antagonist, who capable of shape shifting.
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>>7650582
>>7650616
Alright OP, I do like the idea of the two cloaked characters as extensions of the same agent, but I'm not sure about the public figure thing or how he's an antagonist rather than a neutral presence, given the duality of the cloaked characters.

If you want a book recommendation, the closest thing to this that I've read is... Probably Steppenwolf? Hesse was a fan of Eastern mysticism so his writing is often aware of these dualities. In...
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This was my first McCarthy. Enjoyed it a lot and want to get into some of his other, less accessible stuff. Where do I go next with McCarthy?
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hate to break it to you, but mccarthy is pretty accessible

you try-hard
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Blood Meridian
Suttree
Child of God
Border Trilogy

Ordered from best to worst imo. Read in any order you want.
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>>7650218

Blood Meridian is incredible.

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Is it "muh escapism" that you don't like? is it the tired conventions? Of course I'm aware most fantasy authors tend to produce entry level work but I've even seen swiping statements such as "fantasy is not even literature". Or is it all just the no fun allowed dank memes at work?

English is not my first language, sorry for errors.
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>>7649915
All of them really, fantasy is just an exhausted genre and most of the time is just escapism and badly written .
I like Wolfe fantasy thought.
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Fantasy, detest it. By the numbers childish garbage. Grew out of it by seven. A cold porridge of a genre.
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>>7649915
Because, with the exception of writers like Wolfe and Tolkien, it is poorly written, extremely derivative, and, in my opinion, really boring.

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