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Weird ass (figurative or literal) things that happened in the French Revolution thread?

>In 1791, there was a rash of incidents where nuns who refused to swear an oath to the nation and constitution (which was denounced by the Pope) were forced into town squares and publicly spanked.
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lol catholics
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>>433199
assignats
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the princess de Lamballe, a favorite of Marie Antoinette's, was beaten to death during the September Massacres of 1792. The murderers stuck her head on a pike and dragged her body to the prison where the king and his family were being held, and told the guards they wanted to take the head inside the prison and make Marie Antoinette kiss it.

The guards wouldn't allow it, so they made their way into the courtyard and put the pike up to the windows. Marie Antoinette didn't see it, but one of the guards told the family what the mob outside was trying to show...
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What are some underrated eras and places of history, /his/? I mean, periods you don't hear about often or see in the media.
The Christian Roman empire is one example I can think of.
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In modern media Europe in the 30 years war is rather overlooked. Basically anything from early modern to the 19th century or thereabouts. Minus Napoleon, I guess. Especially considering just how extremely important it all was.
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>>429399
Yeah, even early 19th century is really overlooked compared to the later half. The discovery of the New World gets a lot of coverage, but not happenings in early modern Europe. I know nothing about the Middle East and East Asia in these periods, either.
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viking age

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Hello, /his/.
First, the link:
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

This time we've got a moderate library update with some new folders and lots of new texts. The new folders are “Zoroastrianism” and “Shamanism”. Zoroastrianism has mostly new files while Shamanism is me movinng a number of books around and adding one extra. As usual expansions are alphabetized by folder.

>A.'.A.'.>Philosophy
Added “Eschatology and Space” which talks about space and it's relation to the end...
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>>434623
>Psychological Model
Added Jung's notes from a lecture “On the Psychology of Kundalini Yoga”.

>Shamanic
Now contains “In Darkness and Secrecy”, “Sex Worship and Symbolism”, “Shamanism: A Biopsychosocial Paradigm” and the newly added “Jaguar Within” which touches on shapeshifting in Meso/South American artforms. Moved most of my academic request folder into here as that's what people were requesting.

>Zoroastrianism
Added...
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Extracted from various comments by David Chaim Smith as well as his book "Blazing Dew of Stars".

The Lamp of Darkness:

Jewish mysticism posits that the ultimate mystery is En (without) Sof (limit), the infinite, which is absolute essential creativity. Theism and nihilism equally reify its living mystery with their respective conceptual stances of affirmation and negation. Although En Sof always escapes the clutches of such conceptualizations, it can be realized in the gnostic sense if its nature...
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>>434763
Conventionally fixated magicians are often seduced into the dark glamour of the klipot’s temporary illusion of power. This stems from a conventional hunger to dominate and manipulate phenomena and inflate one’s sense of identity in the process. Both the adolescent mage and the fretful religionist share the habit of reifying phenomena. The solution to both is a shift in view. Continually holding to primordial purity mitigates the rigidity of the klipot, but its vividness can still shine through. Through its playful brightness the primordial sparks can break through their mundane shells and be gathered. Holding the gnostic view dissolves their prisons, and breaks them free to enter one’s practice. Facing any kind of phenomena directly and nakedly is spiritual practice. Its strength and disposition is shaped in each moment, and in turn, shapes the meaning of our life.

Once realization ripens, it is only a matter of how stable it remains. The tzadik, or stable realizer, does not fall back into the klipot to reify a subject or an object. The tzadik’s life is the seal of the primordial purity that is the basis of a living gnosis. However this distinction does not imply objective moral status. This represents a decisive break from the view of Judeo-Christian religion and theism in general, which generally holds the klipot as barriers between man from god, thus becoming the mechanisms of ‘evil’. The non-emanationist view neither supports the existence of a barrier or the implied dichotomy of good or evil. These issues are the exclusive domain of religion, and can be a tremendous sidetrack for a contemplator.

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Who was the greatest leader of the 20th century?

Pic probably not related
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Nasser is not even close. apart from having a very loud mouth his achievements are betraying Mohamed Naguib and losing wars and eventually dying from too much humiliation.
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Is there even any contest?
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>>419841
Implying that glorified butcher comes even close to the Fuhrer

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Why did Ottoman Sultans insist on taking European slave wives rather than marrying into powerful local dynasties like most monarchies?

seems kind of pathetic, no? I mean most empires at the time looked down upon marrying subjugated peoples
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>>443483
memes are great and all but what actually happened?
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>>443469
I'm speaking of reading high level theoretical papers on Byzantine and Ottoman methods of extraction of social surplus but the non-manorial pseudo-"feudalism" in the Marxist sense, which is painted as a "tributary mode of production" by some seems to form a stable aristocracy below the level of state power that has a greater semi-independence in stable extraction but a far weaker control over violence than the European aristocracy.

This would leave marrying into the aristocracy as a less valuable dynastic manoeuvre.

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I get the reasons of why 'standard' christianity and islam are still relevant, but how can somebody still believe mormonism is true?
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A Mormon said it was, and they're like creepy religious robots or something.
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It probably resonated well with American nationalism for long enough to become to a sustainable community.
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It's called Utah

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How did Switzerland transform itself from literally the ooga-booga of Europe to peaceful mountain Jews? How did the country that as late as the 16th century was still known as extremely belligerent and uncultured ways become a beacon of neutrality in the early 19th century? It's really a mind-boggling transformation.
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They lost

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Marignano
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>>443174
You had Martin Luther in Germany. His equivalent in Switzerland was Huldrych Zwingli doing protestant reformation in the german speaking parts and Jean Calvin in the french parts. now the swiss cantons (states) were religiously split and had some internal wars, making them unable to follow their current course. Till then they were able to aggressively wage war against other states but now lost their ability to find consens for a united course of action. the cantons were bound to not wage war independently against the interest of the other cantons.
Till the early 16th century it was pretty strong militarily. In the 15th centruy they won pretty much any battle they fought. they sent their mercenaries to anyone who could pay them. eventually swiss armies lost battles in northern italy (early 16th century), where on the enemy side a big portion of the foot soldiers were swiss. that was a pretty big shock. Also, they started to fall behind technologically. till then they justified their wars by saying like "only god grants victory, and victory is on our side". now the tables turned.
Those are the two stories being told in switzerland, why we are neutral.
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>>443268
While we're on the topic, how was Calvin's Geneva? I heart all sorts of versions, from Calvinus being basically a theocratic dictator to a liberal reformist.

I really don't want to take it to one of the theology threads. Those guys have some weird agendas.

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When the Vikings were granted Normandy by King Charles the Simple, they had to convert to Christianity as part of the agreement.

During the centuries after the Normans were responsible for building many churches, abbeys, and nunneries (many of which are now landmarks).

My question is: what would have happened if the Vikings kept their heathen Gods instead of converted to Christianity? What are the implications of a powerful, heathen, quasi-sovereign state (duchy) during the middle ages? What would the modern day religious landscape look like had a heathen King...
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>>442901
>if the Vikings kept their heathen Gods
why would they?
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>>442901

They would have been crusaded out of existence just like the rest of Europe's pagans.
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>>442913
Because Jesus was nailed to a cross and Thor has a hammer?

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For two things Thing A and Thing B, does Thing A require time to "cause" something Thing B to happen? Does Thing A require space? Are time and space required for anything, be it Thing A or anything else, to undergo the act of "causing?"
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>there is something outside of time and space
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>>442745
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I don't think so. We could say red things cause there to be redness, and that wouldn't be a spatio-temporal relationship.

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There are basically two schools of thought on this.

The first is the way its taught in schools, that it was all seeing and had complete surveillance of society.

The second way I've seen is that the Gestapo didn't actually have to do much, it was rather german society that in effect policed itself, with denunciations that provided most of the tips that they needed.

Personally I prefer the second explanation, as it goes well with how the many of the wiemar institutions were just rolled over into slightly changed forms (save a notable few like the SS).

Discus
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>>442144
>Discus
No that appears to be a shitty jpg logo flag.

>wiemar
Weimar

Go read https://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/NT_Nazi_Vol-I.pdf then through until Vol-IV and get back to us.
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>>442144
The Gestapo had 30k employees and had to cover the whole of Germany + occupied territories. The Stasi had 90k employees (and even more snitches) and only had to cover a small part of that territory and even they didn't achieve full control. So yeah you can see what I am hinting at I guess.
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>>442180
Was literally the first gestapo flag I found on google images

fuck autocorrect then

Yes I know that we said that the nazis were the big bad and how everything was their fault, (not a nazi either, if that line makes me sound like it). I would appreciate an actual response though instead of citing a book.

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Why is every "successful" (in the sense that they were capable of cultural and technological progress and military success) cultures monogamous/polyandrous/something similar to it?
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What? Polyandry is incredibly rare, only found in regions where the ratio of arable land to people is extraordinarily low, like in the Himalayan foothills.
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>>441831
I meant polygynous
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>>441839
Outside of the elite here and there, I don't think polygyny was that common either. It simply isn't efficient considering the more children you have, the thinner their inheritance will be.

Monogamy, and even polyandry, are considerably more balanced systems. You don't get competition between the spouses, and your progeny doesn't have to worry about getting something after your death (not as much, at least).

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what the hell we the point of the hre again?
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>>441587
>what the hell we the point of the hre again?

M8 did you have a stroke
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So that Germanic barbarians could feel prestigious
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>>441595
*was

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Will nationalism ever return?

Is the lack of conventional wars among developed nations the cause of its absence?

>tfw live a meaningless canadacuck life where no one gives a hoot about the prestige and power of our nation
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Nationalism never went anywhere, a lot of Western countries today have big nationalist parties, and nationalist rhetoric has to be used to some extent by mainstream politicians. Even Lenin realised how deeply ingrained nationalism is into people's pysches, it's not just a 'bourgeios delusion' or whatever Marx said about it.

If you mean full blown inter-war levels of nationalism in the West, then I cant see that happening any time soon but who knows.
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>>441774
>>441500
And even without them nationalism is everywhere.
Even people who are not politically nationalist are still nationalist because they identify with and believe in the idea of a Nation and most people also believe their national myths, such as exceptionalism being the most common.

Spooky as fuck and it never went anywhere.
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>>441500
First, see this >>441785

Then, stop thinking nationalism means war. Nationalism in the 19-20th century was particularly bloody because it meant overthrowing a logic existing since the very first civilizations, "sorting out" demographics and lots of nations seeking emancipation. Now that that is over, I think the nationalist world order is ultimately more stable because it's not ever-growing like empires of the past. However, there's a certain danger to pushing for globalization and letting a big amount of immigrants in while the nationalist logic is still fundamental.

Also, Canada is a non-country.

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What do u guys believe about Pompeii?
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wat
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>>441135
>build a city on the slopes of a volcano
>be surprised when you get buried in lava/ash
Romans, everyone.

Truly the peak of civilization.
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>>441180

Fertile ground makes for fertile women virgin peasant.

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So /his/ i'm doing a project on ships in the 1700's is there any help that you guys that provide?
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>>440967
There were some cool ships but most of them sank thanks to pirates and stuff. I once saw a cool Spanish ship not sure what it was called but it looked cool.

Also, Black Flag was a decent game.
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Get busy.
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>>440967
If you want to have some fun, read/write about the gaspee.

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