Why did God create humans when he has angels?
They have free will, and use it to praise him 24/7.
All the rotten ones are in hell.
>>782122
I'm irreligious but blah blah blah something something Augustine:
to create maximum good (because god just has to do that for some reason, because he's god and god is good), god made each degree of good, from the smallest good to the largest one
i.e. a garage with the "most good" car is not as good as the garage with the most good car plus the secondmost and the thirdmost and the fourthmost, etc. Hence "evil" and natural disasters; they're just "really low on the good scale" as opposed to evil or bad. To me though, the fact that it's a matter of how it's scaled seems to imply that right and wrong are merely a matter of convention or perspective, which is a very amoral and unchristian thing to believe in.
>>782122
Because humans don't challenge him, unlike Satan, belzebub and belial
>>782122
>Angels
>Free will
Oh look, a Christian being wrong again.
Angels don't have free will. As for their purpose, look at their Hebrew name, מַלְאַךְ which quite literally means "messenger". They're errand boys for God, often sent when the message being delivered is to either someone unworthy (Think Balaam) or too worked up (The angel sent to tell Abraham to not actually kill Isaac) to deal with a full blown Divine visitation.
Is it time to separate science from the state, as was previously done with religion?
There are plenty of similarities between the political power that the church used to have and the one the vague concept of "Science" holds today. I believe it is detrimental to both science and the society living under the state.
For the society it is simple: Democracies are brought up to fulfill the will of the people, however, the actual act of voting is where the people express their will, and the voting process is made as the acknowledgement that people have different opinions of what is right and what should be done. Both religion and the current political conception of science reject the democratic ideal of making a room for different opinions in the matters of the State, even when contrasting opinions are the norm in the religious and scientific communities (probably more so in the latter). The growing influence of "science" on the affairs of the State and public opinion is deeply anti-democratic. (cont.)
>>781218
(Cont)
For science, its relationship with the state is detrimental to its ultimate purpose of truthfully describing (and even understanding) the universe, right now people, parties and politicians (not people) are being called "anti-science" not because of a strong belief in mysticism and denunciation of the scientific method, but because they express views against what some groups of people hold as settled science, things like global warming, vaccines and autism, fluoride in the water etc., some of you may discard this opinion on the basis that you believe the previous matters are indeed "settled science", but I'd argue that the same could happen with scientific matters that you don't support, like eugenics or anti-abortionism.
Furthermore, we must let go of the nonsense notion of "settled science" and "scientific consensus". Political interference in science is not helping this matter, you may think, for example, that increased governmental funding is always a good thing for science, but remember that said funding is always tied to the politician's beliefs, government funding of science is not "have this and find truth", but "have this and give me talking points for the next press conference".
>>781218
The irony of that pic is that it implies Church and State intersect and are therefore not separate.
>>781233
Makes sense if you consider that two straight lines that intersect in a single point will never do so again
The Orthodox Church
The Church Founded by Our Lord and God Jesus Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8r5r4R2yuE
Orthodox FAQ's and reading list: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
>>781024
>jesus
>Messiah
pick 1
>jesus
>god
Pick 1
>jesus
>son of God
Pick 1
>>781034
Love
Can anyone recommend me some Orthodox black metal?
Is humanity irredeemable and without hope? Has the seeking of comfort through technology doomed us all? Do we need a bottleneck event to revitalize mankind's instinct for survival?
Would that change anything?
avanced space travel will make things exciting again familia
>>780890
>Do we need a bottleneck event to revitalize mankind's instinct for survival?
Go read Engel's Condition of the Working Class in England in 1844. Then any frontline pacific US serviceman's diary. Then realise that the US forces in the pacific had it sweety, buttery and easy.
>>780890
>Is humanity irredeemable and without hope?
We're our own redeemers, so no.
>Has the seeking of comfort through technology doomed us all?
No and you're welcome to become Amish or a monk. Maybe it'll help.
>Do we need a bottleneck event to revitalize mankind's instinct for survival?
Nah. When the time comes we'll find a way.
I want to be a self-made rugged individualist who don't afraid of no spooks, but I also want to deliver the working class from bondage. What do?
Do both.
>>780568
Makhno
>>780568
just b urself
if u put ur mind 2 it u can do anything
What do you think about horseshoe theory? Was fascism and communism literally the same thing under different names?
>>780048
Is being dead and alive literally the same thing? Kill yourself to find out
>>780058
>~/pol/ !! Ids u again :DD
I think you should fuck off back to /b/ you memespawn
redpill me on WWI. What tactics were missing that made the Western Front devolve into such absurd bullshit?
>>779444
>redpill me
No tactics were missing. Infantry tactics through most of the war in the west were basically the same as in WW2. Light machine guns, mortars, rifle grenades pin the enemy, assault element moves up to close range.
Extensive mechanization and motorization to provide supply to your attacking forces, and even more importantly, to exploit and develop a breakthrough, was what was missing.
Remember that assaults, as in reaching the other side's trench, succeeded regularly. It was holding against the counterattack - with overextended, tired, forces low on supply, against an enemy not suffering from these factors - that was the problem.
Also don't forget that this applies for the relatively cramped frontline in the west. In the east, vast sweeping maneuvers and highly mobile warfare over the plains and fairly open ground was still very common.
>>779444
Defense hadn't caught up with attack yet. There was pretty much no way to counter a well placed machine gun until the tank came along
Does accelerationism turn Marxism into a faith?
>>779196
>Man helping other people sure is retarded
>>779202
I don't think you know the meanings of most of the words that have been used in this thread.
>>779184
Marxism is strictly a faith. It assumes its own first principles and then doctors evidence to suit them.
So I've done a little research and lots of sources say that Gaddafi was in fact a good leader, can you help confirm this anons?
>>778107
>good leader
>bad leader
When will these memes die?
He was until America decided he wasn't.
>was Ghaddafi set up to look evil
He did a good job of that on his own, he didn't need other people to make him look bad.
>Ghaddafi was in fact a good leader
A good leader is relative.
Did he keep the peace in Libya and do better than the alternative (radical religious leader)?
Yes.
Did he do a particularly good job?
No.
It's like saying Saddam was a good leader. Relatively speaking compared to the alternative he was a good leader. But when compared to actual good leaders he kind of appears as a cartoonishly evil fellow.
Hi /his/
Who killed him?
Not american curious about this. Conservatives? CIA? who and why?
The secret cabal of the group I hate most, of course :)
>>778082
Lee Harvey Oswald, a lone gunman who tried to gain favor with the Soviets, spent a while in the USSR, and was kicked out.
He did it to make a mark on history or something, we'll never know.
Lee Harvey Oswald
What is your opinion of Michael Collins and the IRA in the Irish War of Independence? Are you pro-treaty or anti-treaty?
>>777618
In my opinion Irish should have fought on.
Or at least declare war during ww2, british occupation of north is still very hippocritical
Arguments for Treaty
>Only reason we've been successful against British forces is because they've treated us as an insurgency, so they only sent their army. If we don't sign they'll treat us as a rogue state, send their full airforce and navy to assist the fight, and deal with us the same way they dealt with Germany.
>The Scottish population of Ulster doesn't want to join us, and they have no plans of evacuating the land their ancestors conquered.
>"Canada-status" will only last 2 decades
>got best treaty possible since de Valera, Ireland's best negotiator, decided to sit home since "Ireland's President doesn't travel abroad for negotiating" (ie. didn't wanna be the one bringing the bad news home)
Anti-Treaty
>Have to pay off massive amount of UK debt
>all members of the Oireachtas still have to swear allegiance to King
>Royal Navy still allowed to control 3 vital ports in our country
>Irish people are lazy, and if we don't win the war now, we'll never get around to finishing reunification of the island later
Probably still Pro-Treaty since Ireland wouldn't stand a chance in actual all-out war, let alone be able to militarily conquer the North without losing the moral high-ground and sympathy of the world.
>>777618
Pro 2bh
What is reality? What are we doing here? Is it the Supreme Brute Fact, or just a quantum queef that shouldn't have happened? If so, then how am "I" here? Why should my consciousness have even arisen in the first place, what ties to me all this?
>>/x/
>>776825
It's philosophy numb nuts
>>776821
Where does consciousness arise?
What can you guys tell me about the FFL? Especially the training. I've heard the training is brutal but I can't find any info on what makes it so hard.
You don't sleep, you don't eat, you walk, you run, you crawl, you get treated like shit and pushed beyond your limits until you become a new man. You're also taught French.
French soldier here, if you have more specific questions.
>>776693
When's the part where they ram a broomstick up your ass as an initiation ritual?
>>776693
I need all the specifics you can give me, monseiur. I heard they make you run 20 miles in 100F heat and make you eat raw animals that you kill yourself. Any of that true? Is there more?
>Every war the United States was involved in after World War II was and is unjustified.
/his/ will argue against this.
>>776683
What about the Korean war?
Was Operation Uphold Democracy really that bad?
>>776683
>korean war
>first gulf war
>intervention against IS
>Caesar was Divine
Discuss.
>>776179
He is just as divine as his current counterpart, the pope. After all, both share the title Pontifex Maximus.
Didn't Julius Caesar's death coincide with earthquakes that were felt as far as present-day Germany?
Sure he was,metaphorically speaking.Same for alex the great.
![Commander_Michael_Collins[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kNP5rVy.jpg "Commander Michael Collins[1]")
