How does one become a patrician?
>>902687
Masturbate to fine art
>>902687
engage in lively debate with the /his/ board of 4chan.
>read philosophy
>listen to great works of art music
>read great works of literature
>fuck fine women/men/both/etc. (fuck a finely lubricated hand if you must)
>lift with a good regimen
>run marathons
>learn fine dance and visual arts
>paint in your spare time
>schmooze with nobility
>take government office
>spend the rest of your life there, slowly burning out
Final step
>laugh at plebeians
You know how today everyone who is offended by the opinion of someone else they just call them a nazi, reactionary, communist etc.
What did people call each other to mean roughly mean the same things before these terms came into being?
In 18th-early 19th century Europe they'd call you a Republican.
Heretic, hussite, kaffir, barbarian, peripatetic, stoic, cynic, optimate, populare, radical, pedophile, faggot, etc.
>>902767
>stoic
that was an insult at some point?
>So I told the Kaiser to invade Belgium in order to get to France and he actually did it!
>What an absolute madman!
>>902535
>So I told Bush to invade Iraq and he actually did it!
>What an absolute goy!
>>902535
>mfw people think the Maginot line was a failure
>mfw people forget that Germany invaded through Belgium in WW1
>>902602
The real judaization occurred with Bill. You're right about Good Goy Bush, though.
http://www.strawpoll.me/7215229
>No Dental Hygiene option
Shit poll desu mate.
I like how Britain wasn't even a blip on the radar of any of those people.
>>902482
yeah sure thing retard
Why did Germans become such a large portion of America?
A lot of them were protestants fleeing the Christians in Europe. That combined with the incentives of 19th century march to the west for immigrants to consolidate the land made it possible for a lot of Germans to move to America.
>>902322
Aren't most German-Americans catholic?
>>902319
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_revolutions_of_1848%E2%80%9349
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty-Eighters
I think it's unfair how all western historians accuse the soviet union of being the aggresor in the winter war presenting their opinions as if they were facts..
Why don't they teach the competing theories of what happened and let people choose what to believe?
The winter war isn't that important, would you like if they began to touch alternative theories for the holocaust, world war two and operation barbarossa as well?
ANy reason you care so much for this one war?
Kind of pointless when official soviet documents about the war that were unlocked back in the 90s confirm they started it.
>>902004
Not OP, but I fucking hate all Finns.
What do you suppose possessed the first man that made a boat and went out to sea? Like wtf waz he thinking. "Yep. Water as far as the eye can see. It's totally a good idea to get on this piece of wood and see how long it goes on for. I totally won't starve to death seperated unimaginably far from my family."
>>901980
I imagine the earlier boats were made so they could go out further to get fish (makes sense, logically). And then as their boatmaking skills improved they were able to go on longer voyages before finally realizing that besides getting to fish boats could be used to explore, trade, and go on raiding expeditions.
People initially navigated along the coasts.
/thread
>>901980
First boats, or at least rafts, were being used before the first sapiens ever even evolved, homo erectus was able to colonize islands.
I imagine a lot of the first quests out to sea were rafts to hug the coast, and then getting dragged out to the open ocean by currents or a storm.
You can go back and live for a few years in any age or time frame of human history. Diseases and warfare and all that aside, what do you pick? Choose 3, and explain why you like them and would've liked to experience them.
For me, the first answer is a close call. My three choices are the Viking Age c. 1030, when Knut the Great was King of England, Denmark, and Norway, or the Napoleonic Era, or the 1870s, specifically in Germany. These are my three favourite time periods (I don't count the World Wars here because I certainly wouldn't have wanted to experience them - props to my grandpa, great grandpa, and all those uncles who served in them), and I think for me it would go:
>Victorian
>Napoleonic
>Viking
Victorian would be fascinating as such a unique time of great technological and political advancement. Such sheer amounts of great change have never been paralleled as those in the late Industrial Revolution times.
Napoleonic would be also super fascinating for me, especially since I work at a Napoleonic heritage site, and since I've done some reenacting as a British grenadier.
Viking would be partly an ancestral call for me, but not just because they're stereotyped badasses. There's still today even a great deal we don't know about them, and these are things I wish I could know.
>>901643
Roman empire (my ancestors were from central Italy)
sometime before the seven years' war
wouldn't really want to go to any other points in history, so for my third one I'll just say the year 2100
>>901691
Only two periods of interest?
>>901643
Prehistory, senpai.
>living in utopia, go out for hunt with bros when feel like it, teaching bitches how to swim
>absolutely no moral values, fug the lolis and everything fertile that is fuckable
>go to cave with my artistic niggas for some prehistoric graffiti
>yfw meeting actual we wuz kangz niggas nobody in the present age knows
>unspoilt nature and air, just how mother earth intended
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziyarid_dynasty
>Born to a Zoroastrian family native to Gilan, Mardavij was an anti-Muslim, who sought to revive the Sasanian Empire which was conquered in 654 by the Muslims. He first started his career by joining the army of his kinsman Asfar ibn Shiruya. Mardavij, however, later betrayed him, and killed him, conquering much of Jibal. He then set out to conquer Hamadan, Dinavar and Isfahan from the Abbasid Caliphate, and thereafter declared himself king of Iran, making Isfahan his capital.
>He then defeated the Daylamite military leader Makan ibn Kaki, and conquered Tabaristan in 932. By 934, his authority was acknowledged as far as Shiraz and Ahvaz.However, his goal of recreating the Persian Empire was ruined when he was murdered by his own Turkish slaves in 935.
Tell me about the Ziyarids, /hist/.
>>901627
Glad some real Muslims reminded him of what life in Persia was after Khalid
>>902362
Based Khalid
Is there any possible way to not be a hedonist?
Doesn't every person want to achieve as much pleasure as possible?
Even strictly religious people are basically hedonist, or not?
They want to achieve the most pleasure by getting in to heaven.
I seriously can't think of anyone not beeing a hedonist.
Think about soliders.
War is painful, short, and than you die. Some things are worth suffering for.
If all people cared about was maximizing pleasure we would all be on drugs. In fact we would demand the government pass out drugs to everyone for free as the ultimate spreading of joy.
Pleasure is the emanation of joy
>>901517
Ya but even soldiers are somewhat hedonistic because they think their participation in war leads to a bigger pleasure for the country etc.
If you know what I mean
Hello everyone I am wondering,
Where to start learning about history?
Like a list of the best books, documentaries, shows, etc for a total n00b (I would consider myself a newfag even though my friends would disagree).
>>901391
I remember when I was in high school.
Allthough it sounds retarded, Wikipedia and Historical documentary movies helped me achieve who I am today..
Nowadays, there are numerous books written in a way that's light and informing for most people while keeping an interesting pace. Very readable books get published every day on either specific periods or cultures in history or the kind of book that tries to find patterns and causes throughout history in general.
Do you already have a period you are more intersted in? Go out and look on the subject, indeed even Wikipedia can be a great start.
Great books on history at large are for example the books by Jared Diamond, for example Guns, germs and steel.
>>901391
http://pastebin.com/u/jonstond2
Overrated genius or misunderstood hack?
You know you're a hack when your own men nickname you the butcher
>>901027
Just a hack, he wasn't particualrly misunderstood.
He was a completely overrated hack who couldn't win when presented with an actual opponent.
Did the Magna Carta bring a rightward or leftward shift to medieval English society?
While usually construed as a liberal document, due to reducing the power of the monarch, 13th century English monarchy was not absolute. In effect, the Magna Carta weakened the power of the English state in favor of a more primitive tribal system. Is this not regressive?
>>900962
How are terms like rightward or leftward even applicable on this?
It set the stage for the parliament and habaes corpus.
>>900962
>applying notions of 'left' and 'right' to a feudal entity
God, /his/ got dumb fast.
>applying 'right' and 'left' as descriptors centuries before those terms either existed or had any real meaning
wew
Did geography really shape up human history? Or is it just bullshit
>>900751
Can you build a civilization that can stand the test of time, in an isolated desert?
It started civilisations but didn't control the subsequent development of civilisations.
>>900759
Fuck off Firaxis
So /his/, where is it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Alexander_the_Great
>>900256
Bump for interest.
Alexandria.
>>900256
In your heart
