Why are the ancient Greeks claimed as the creators of western civilization?
Geographically speaking as well as culturally and their role in history, aren't they more similar to the rest of the mediteranian and the Middle East?
Westen Europe didn't adopt democracy until thousands of years after the ancient Greeks were doing it, and ethnically and culturally modern Greeks seem to be closer to middle easterners than Northern Europe, or "the western world".
Is it because the Romans idolized the Greeks and subsequent European powers idolized the Romans or is it more complicated?
The western world doesnt mean northern europe especially back then.
>>1195000
Greeks literally defined "Europa" as their side of the Bosporous and "Asia" as the other side, a division that is still used to this day
they invented the concept of Europe
A: The Romans emulated the Greeks tremendously, culturally and artistically, and they built a super-Western state that united people under a common identity
B: Greek literature and philosophy is the cornerstone of Western literature and philosophy. Not to mention mathematics.
C: Greeks were the medium Christianity spread through, and it was Christianity that kept a common identity in the West after the Roman Empire fell.
Who was the most successful thief in history (that we know of)? Can be thieves that were identified or thieves that were never identified, but whose crimes were noticed.
Probably some art theft
>>1194051
Queen Victoria
Alexander the Great
Now that the dust has settled(hopefully) what does /his/ thinks about God preferably the christian one but feel free to discuss whatever God you want to.
>>1192650
Religion is fascinating. I do not like Abrahamic religions. The dualism, the human exceptionalism, its static nature of reality etc. Some of the Christian ethics are okay.
I am currently reading about Aztec metaphysics, and what they think is closer to how I see the world: ever changing reality, destruction and creation, becoming etc.
Since I am atheist I cannot believe in the supernatural, but religions have ethics, philosophy and worldviews that I might endorse.
Another thing I lack with the Abrahamic God is imperfection and bad luck.
>>1192687
I meant to say that I can't find imperfection and bad luck within the Abrahamic God. Lucifer by the way is also interesting. Except for edgelords into Satanism.
>>1192692
The book Memnoc the Devil paints my favorite version of Lucifer.
Was the statement, "If Hitler didnt interfere with his generals, war against USSR would be better for Germany." real? If Yes, how much better?
>>1191792
They be saying that Hitler shouldn't have gone after Stalingrad an instead should've gone straight to the oilfields or somethin
The thing is, even the generals were idiots. Sure you have Gunderian, Manstein, Kluge, but you also had way too many idiots convinced they knew better. When they failed they would blame hitler. Look at Paulus,
He commanded the 6th army, Germany's strongest, well equipped army.
Instead of encircling, and rushing in when Russia was on the retreat and taking Stalingrad in weeks, he sat back ordered/waited for the Luftwaffe to turn the damn thing to rubble, then ordered his tanks in.
When he could of pulled out, he didn't.
A whole army annihilated
>>1192368
paulus was a real asshole and got a bunch of guys killed but he was a staff officer with little training on the elements of warfare and no prior experience in the field .
>Post where you're from
>Post what comes to mind when people mention "the war"
>>1191666
Born in Galway, raised midlands about Dublin.
What comes to mind? My grandfathers brother getting shot in Northern Ireland by proddys.
US of A.
Probably that one in Afghanistan that's been going on for 15 years.
Mostly it depends on context and how old the person is.
Ancient: WWI
Really old: WWII
Old: Korea
60's-70's: Vietnam
40's-50's: Gulf War
Younger: Iraq and Afghanistan
>>1191666
Frisia
Friso-Hollandic Wars: Hollanders, as they are called, are filthy and cannot be touched (also worship money).
From this day to the day of today we (Frisians but also other Northerners) are still opressed and all the money flows to the "randstad". It saddens me.
:(
/his/ humor thread
that's /tv/ humour
Does Christianity inevitably lead to child sexual, mental and physical abuse or is a new reformation of Christianity possible where this doesn't happen?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26044852
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2040428/Warren-Jeffss-child-bride-I-cried-wedding-dress-soaked.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-dimension/201511/fundamentalist-christianity-and-child-abuse-taboo-topic
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/29/protestants-abuse-catholics-methodist-church
Eh, not really. Modern, first world definitions of child-abuse encapsulate things that are normal in 2nd and 3rd world countries and which only 50 years ago would have been considered standard practice throughout the world.
Or you could just be completely driven by ideology and ignore all that.
>>1201501
>protestants
>christians
nice joke anon, nice joke
>>1201501
>Does Christianity inevitably lead to child sexual, mental and physical abuse or is a new reformation of Christianity possible where this doesn't happen?
>where this doesn't happen
>doesn't happen
It's people in power abusing their power. It's disgusting but it's facts of life.
>fedoras who unironically believe Postmodernism is a bad thing
>wahhh why must you try to look at concepts with all their complexities wahhhh
You people are the modern equivalent of the stuck-up religious people who refused to believe science over The Bible's every word. Yeah, the Earth's round.
yeah i don't get it. also they think postmodernism is leftism
>>1199520
this, most people who are against postmodernism have no clue what it's about.
>>1199530
>>1199532
Why is there this phenomenon of fedoras in our generation? By this, in this case, I men men in their twenties who follow Carl Sagan on Twitter, refuse to listen to anyone else, thinks philosophy ended with Nihilism, STEM-circlejerking, "everything was perfect in the 50s", kind of fedoras.
Is it a direct offset to Postmodernism?
What Alexander lived to be 80 years old?
My grandpa.
>>1192663
If?
>>1192726
Wopps
Yes, it should read:
>What if Alexander lived to be 80 years old?
ITT: "Villains" who did nothing wrong
Hard mode: No Adolf
This brave soul.
>>1202223
Can you maybe give info on how he "did nothing wrong"?
I think the current collapse of Venezuela will wake up people to see what Chile would be like without Pinochet.
Why did monotheism prevail?
>>1201721
Because it's the truth
>>1201721
Polytheists can into monotheism, but monotheism can't into polytheism?
less gods to remember
>tfw if you traveled back past the 1500s, the language barrier would prevent you from understanding or communicating with people
>>1195773
> He can't understand Olde English
>>1195773
You'd figure it out after a couple weeks
Canterbury Tales was written in the late 14th century and it's mostly understandable.
What do guys think of extra history?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbBHk_zLTmY
>>1193173
>xDDDDD it was Walpole
Meh, entry-level tier. Has its moments, and it's less pants-on-head retarded than crash course.
They fucked up their crusades series though, probably in the name of political correctness. Realcrusadeshistory has an entire miniseries debunking Extra Credits, and unlike Extra Credits he names his (mostly primary) sources.
>>1193173
I like them. But as they themselves say, don't think that you're getting anywhere near the full story. If they talk about something that interests you, do further reading. Don't think you know it just because of a couple of videos that give you the barebones story.
>>1193173
They're almost as cucked and PC as John Green. And I only say almost because it's a level beyond attainable.
What percentage of present day Americans are lineal descendants of members of the American Revolution?
Intuitively I feel it will be quite high due to branching of ancestors.
>>1189827
Have a relative whom served under Nathaniel Greene. With a second relative who served under Anthony Wayne.
It is not as much as you'd think because since the 3 mass waves of immigration (1840s, 1880s, & 1900s) most people are decendants of Irish immigrants whom escaped the potato famine, Italian descendants who were leaving Italy because of a slow economy, French and German descendants whom were escaping the consistent wars between the two.
I still find it funny that British citizens didn't immigrate as much to America as I originally thought.
>>1189827
My family name comes from a Hessian who defected to the Americans. Good thing for me he liked the idea of having his own farm.
>>1189899
Even with those later immigration by now won't they have likely joined a line descended from revolution?
Just four back and you already have 16 ancestors.
![0855c0e4c4e13b05ed905246d0f68431[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Shc4G1l.jpg "0855c0e4c4e13b05ed905246d0f68431[1]")
Did he do it?
If she was that attractive, who wouldn't do it?
I'm more concerned that she had more negroid features.
>>1182850
Yes, Thomas Jefferson knew what's up.
