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/his/torical coin thread
First up an aureus of Hadrian
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a 1629 gold ducat from Hungary
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a 1645 ducat from Sweden
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a 20 franc coin of Napoleon from 1803

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paleoanthropologists theorise that homo sapiens survived over other hominid species because the part of the brain responsible for language and communication was larger. this allowed homo sapiens to spread ideas and information, which ultimately gave it the edge over other hominids, and allowed it to survive while the others went extinct.

> better at spreading ideas
> humans literally survived and exist now because of memes

how does this make you feel?
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Seems legit
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Pretty good desu
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>>549159
>>>/sci/

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Did the past cultures generally hold a bigger standard for art and literature than today?
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>>549037
Probably not.
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>>549037
Yes and no.

Prior to the 20th century, there was a distinct difference between popular culture and high culture. Popular culture has always been shit, and in most eras it had no funding and no one recording it. What we see as the culture of the past is the culture of the elite: artists/composers/authors commissioned by the Church or the nobility.

That distinction has broken down, so what people are seeing as the dominant cultural narrative of our time is now the equivalent of what would have been graffiti and pub drinking songs in the middle ages.
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>>549123
Not the same person, but I'd like to add towards this response by pointing out that high culture before was a matter of class and being able to afford it.

Today everyone have access (or us westerners at least) to high culture despite social background or capital.

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for antiquity history what are some good podcasts? screw dave carlin

also i prefer before Rome came to power
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>screw dave carlin
>dave carlin

This has all the markings of an excellent thread.
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>>548995
Try his brother, dan carlin
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>>549000
Indeed, Dan Carlin shills need to STFU every now and then.

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Can /his/ tell me about this weapon and other Mesoamerican weapons? Can this weapon be considered a sword? I know obsidian is brittle but sharp so would the pieces of the obsidian sticking out of the wood break off when tearing through skin? And if all of the obsidian pieces fall of would they(mesoamericans) use the wood as a club?
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Weapon classifications are usually pretty flimsy in the first place, but no I would say this is more like a spiked club.

It's unique 'stick n drag' type action is distinct enough to potentially have its own classification I guess. But again most weapon experts can't even agree on what 'Shortsword' means so maybe we should just leave it alone.
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>>548520
how long would their spears last with the brittle obsidian tip? Would they just get one thrust out of it and throw it away?

Did Fascism ever gel into a coherent ideology?

Marx's Kapital was first published in 1867, but it wasn't until 1917, fifty years later, that the first communist state came into existence. This means that Marxist thinkers had fifty years to iron out the details and produce a relatively consistent package of ideas to which most Marxists adhere.

In contrast, the first stirrings of fascist thought showed up during WW1 with thinkers like Gabriele D'Annunzio and Enrico Corradini, while Mussolini's March on Rome took place in 1922. This means that fascism as an ideology had less than ten years to develop from a vague intellectual movement to a coherent, practical political ideology.

Did fascists actually know what they were fighting for, or was it more of an emotional outburst against failure in WW1 and the rise of the left?
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Is it really necessary for an ideology to simmer for 50 years before it can become an ideology? I really don't think so. All that's necessary is that a political movement attach itself to it. Socialism was an ideology at least as early as 1848 if we count the Paris Commune as a political movement with an ideology, and while socialism isn't identical to Communism I think you're giving Marx too much credit in the development of an ideology that, as you note, didn't coalesce into a proper state till he was long dead. Fascism has roots in the 19th century and even the 18th century that are as valid in fascist thought as Marx is in Communist thought. Communism just managed to win a few more wars than fascism, the success of one ideology over the other (and remember that liberalism came out on top at the end of the 20th century and ultimately beat out both of these competing modes of production and thought) has more to do with the conditions on the ground in the countries they took root in than in the actual content of the ideologies, IMO.
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It never did, even after Mussolini's march, no coherent form of fascism developed, if you look at the fascist parties of Europe

The difference between Hitler and Mussolini's fascism is the obvious comparison, but there are the other parties of Europe who never came to power but were organised and existed too

The British Union of Fascists also from socialist roots like Mussolini advocated a corporatist state, with workers voting based on their professions, electing representatives of that profession to represent them, wanting to create a parliament of experts, believers workers should take 50% ownership of any company over a certain size, and that the major state industries would be placed under government control, whilst socially followed the original Italian racial theories based on culture, while taking a reconciliary approach to religion, supporting neither protestantism of Catholicism

The Resist party in Belgium closely followed Nazi lines in both racial theory and economics, however was strictly royalist and supporting the Union of Walloons and the Flemish, while following a devoutly Catholic progam

Fascism seemed to develop into two ideologies, German and Italian. The Italian branch generally resonated with those who came from the left of politics dissatisfied with the political elite and the old guard of politics, putting the economy national prosperity first. The German model was mostly followed by parties that originated in the right like the NDASP and the Rexists, putting nationalism and racial purity as their priorities

Due to the different developments of the the fascist parties in the only countries where they came to power, it left the ideology permanently split
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>>548439
>Is it really necessary for an ideology to simmer for 50 years before it can become an ideology?


>socialism is a system of societal organization in which the means of production are under the control of the workers

95% of socialists would be satisfied with the above basic definition of socialism, as would most of their detractors.

Could fascism be summed up in a similarly pithy short sentence that would satisfy both proponents and detractors?

If not, then I would argue that fascism was not a coherent ideology.

It can be done for socialism:

Just got this book while writing my masters thesis. Im excited to read it. General Airplanes of WWII thread I guess?

[spoiler] P-51D Mustang best plane! [/spoiler]
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>>547271

What's your thesis?


And please, the C-47 was the best plane.
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>>547336
Aerial warfare in the Ardennes Offensive

The C-47 had its uses but Im still a P-51D fan. Growing up on Chuck Yeagers Air Combat simulator did it for me. Even got his autograph too!
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>>547336
C-47? You mean P-47?

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>Wittgenstein’s response to me was humiliating, and his response to female students who tried to attend his lectures was even worse. If a woman appeared in the audience, he would remain standing silent until she left the room.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! Witty knows what's up. Yet /lit/ pathetically tries to pretend that literature can be worthwhile when it's saturated with females.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS. Women are the sexually in demand sex and will therefore NOT be incentivised to work hard in areas that require results / risk / standards of work that can be objectively judged. Women in any field is a sign of its deterioration. Go and do something worthwhile such as pure mathematics, brain surgery, garbage collection, theoretical physics, etc
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You're off your meds again arent you?
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Show me on the doll where the woman didn't touch you.
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>>546914
Based

Just finished reading his second discourse. What are your thoughts on him and his works /his/? Was humanity better off in the state of nature? Is the idea of property really the root of our strife?
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I haven't read his works but I think it would be cool to talk with him about the pleasure that comes from being spanked by a cute girl.
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>>546546
Discussing the important things in life.
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Do a quick check on Rousseau's childhood.
You'll understand more about his ideas that way.

Was this the precursor to the war on terror?
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>>546349

One of many. There's a theory that the Saudis' refusal of Bin Laden's offer of protection in favor of the West's operation Desert Shield was a major catalyst in solidifying his hatred.

If we're talking military matters, though, there's really no comparing the style of fighting in the Gulf War to the later wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, so calling it a "precursor" doesn't quite click.
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>>546349
The Carter Doctrine was.

Reminder that America literally goes to war for oil, which is to say that America goes to war so they can have hamburgers and air conditioning.
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>>546377

/thread

What are some historical events, people, places etc. that you personally believe have been tampered with or revised in some way?

>inb4 Holocaust
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>>544863
The Armenian Genocide
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>>544863
Orwell would be impressed
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>>544863
I never understood how could the members of the central committee and government officials let stalin kill them one by one. He's killing everybody, you know your time is coming eventually, how hard is it to just pull out your gun and shoot?

If Buddha died at a young age, what religion might religion in the east look like?
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>>544579
there would have been another buddha, since the dhamma is discovered perpetually.
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>>544579
Buddhism is a synthetic belief in Asia, not a prime religion. Without it you would still have Confucianism and Taoism in most of East Asia, with Shinto mixed in in Japan. Basically exactly what you have now except for no Buddha or meditation (probably).
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>>544962
>synthetic
syncretic*

There's a huge repertoire of music from the medieval and early modern West which you can easily find on the internet, plus a good deal of early modern music from places like the Ottoman Empire and Qing China.

What I hardly ever see are specific compositions (as opposed to speculative 'reconstructions') from ancient or non-Western medieval times. Are there any compositions surviving from the medieval Middle East, India, or Southeast Asia, for example?

Here are some examples of the kind of stuff I'm looking for:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RjBePQV4xE
>The Seikilos epitaph, a short Greek composition from around the 1st century AD

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c-hmFN610g
>The Hurrian hymn to Nikkal, from Ugarit around 1400 BC. Keep in mind there are other interpretations of the hymn, which you can listen to at the bottom of this page; http://individual.utoronto.ca/seadogdriftwood/Hurrian/Website_article_on_Hurrian_Hymn_No._6.html

>http://www.silkqin.com/06hear/tangsong/youlan.mp3
>Jieshi Diao You Lan (Solitary Orchid), possibly the oldest surviving composition from East Asia, composed around the 6th century AD in China and preserved in Japan
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Cool thread. Two of my favorite topics
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Don't know if this music is closely related to its ancient version, but taking into account that Afghanistan and eastern Korasan are regions where times almost stood still, I dare to post this:

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Also here are some Song dynasty compositions: http://www.silkqin.com/06hear.htm#tangsong

Then there's this; Etenraku, a traditional Japanese court melody (gagaku) dating from at least the Heian period.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx1uw4n575M

>>544509
That's funky as hell.

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Hey /his/, want to talk about psychology?
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Sure.

Behaviorism is the most retarded shit ever. And it's all that those pop-psychology twats ever talk about. Go on reddit and ask for a "good social manipulation/trick" and you read the most retarded shit. Repeating the name of the person. Or reproducing their gestures and body language.

It's such 19th century bullshit. Even Freud has a more modern grasp of the human soul than those retards.
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>>543142
I want to analyze the psychology of pornstars.

Why would they take hundreds of dicks for probably less than $900 at a time? Do they think about the fact that children are watching them get rawdogged by other dudes? Are the complacent with the fact that their videos are giving people ED, cuckold, and disgusting fetishes?

How do they still have normal friends when they're getting pounded like every week? Does this strain their family's relationship? Why are they smiling and laughing on their social media pages when their profession is arguably the most frowned upon in the entire world?

I would like to sit down with one of them and ask them this and see how'd they respond. It's interesting, but I mainly want to get down to why it seems like the people involved in that industry are so indifferent to the suffering they cause.
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>>543142
I want to study psychology. Can psychologists give me some advice?

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Who are examples of the concept of the Übermensch?
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>>542551
not OP, for sure
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fedoras
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>>542551

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