[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y / ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo

Archived threads in /his/ - History & Humanities - 852. page


Who had it worse in the end, Krauts or Japs?
47 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
>>550518

Krauts. Part of country got occupied by Russians for half century.
>>
>>550537
The Japs got fuckton of radiation and practically became a big US military base.
>>
>>550518
Germans got bombed out aswell, had to suffer widespread expulsion and women were often vitcims of sexual violence.
So germany gets the point imo

File: 1452454802458.jpg (14KB, 300x237px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
1452454802458.jpg
14KB, 300x237px
Why are new discoveries and dialetics in the science world get reported more often in news reports than new discoveries and dialetics in the philosophical world?
27 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
because people would rather see stuff like
>space thing has taken pictures of pluto
on their facebook feeds so that they can just share it and never think about it again
>>
>>549764
Analytical philosophy has made animes real. What has engineering ever done for us?
>>
>>549764
Philosophy is something where it is much harder to create sound bites.

"We descovered a new particle"
vs
"We beat nihilism"

File: 54747_popegreg_vii_lg.gif (387KB, 752x1024px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
54747_popegreg_vii_lg.gif
387KB, 752x1024px
Who's your favorite Pope, /his/?
13 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
>>549233
Alexander VI.

Because who doesn't love a Pope that doesn't believe in God, murders thousands of people, and gets lewd with his evil daughter?
>>
Sylvester II:
Invented the mechanical clock and a bunch of other shit like a boss, people thought he was some kind of sorcerer, made kind of a shitty Pope though.

Urban II:
DEUS VULT

Gregory VII:
Turned the Church into a superpower, rekt the Germans.

Clement V:
Brought the Papacy to France where it belongs.
>>
I like Benedict XII, his election made me kek

>A common practice at the time was for Cardinals to vote for a Cardinal who was not considered a real possibility for the papacy on the first ballot, in order to see how the other Cardinals were leaning. However, this time, over two-thirds of the Cardinals independently voted for Fournier. The Cardinals had not planned this, so the accession of the obscure Fournier on the first ballot was an entirely accidental affair.

>yfw youre too normy you became Pope

Isn't it amazing that his time was only 200 years ago? Will we ever see military leader of his caliber again?
13 posts and 3 images submitted.
>>
Yes, there are many manlet military leader.
>>
>>549190
He was average, if not slightly taller, for his time.

The whole manlet thing was British propaganda.
>>
I'm four handshakes away from Napoleon.

File: 1297167044569.jpg (53KB, 359x534px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
1297167044569.jpg
53KB, 359x534px
Best Generals of WW1, list 'em.

> Arthur Currie
> John Monash
35 posts and 15 images submitted.
>>
Those guys are definitely worth a mention but it's worth noting their reputations are in large part built on the fact that they only received a corps command in the most successful year of the war. Same for Allenby. On the Western front his performance was mediocre, they shipped him out to Palestine and suddenly he's known as one of WWI's best generals. Frankly the Western front just didn't make anyone look good.
>>
>>549102
>they only received a corps command in the most successful year of the war
One could argue they were the reason it was the most successful year of the War.
>>
>bongs even being relevant in WW1

Oh Nigel...

Can you point me to any wars in which no non-combatants were harmed, such as those fought entirely at sea? I'm particularly interested in recent wars.
11 posts and 1 images submitted.
>>
>>548692
Naval warfare harms trade in general, so it does hurt non-combatants.
>>
>>548742
Directly harmed then.
>>
>>549079
>>548692
World War when Americans put civilians on ships to keep the Germans from sinking them and they went and sunk them anyways?

Sinking of the RMS Lusitania

>Algeria began piracy against the U.S. on 25 July 1785 with the capture of the schooner Maria, and Dauphin a week later.[9] All four Barbary Coast states demanded $660,000 each. However, the envoys were given only an allocated budget of $40,000 to achieve peace.[10] Diplomatic talks to reach a reasonable sum for tribute or for the ransom of the captured sailors struggled to make any headway. The crews of Maria and Dauphin remained in captivity for over a decade, and soon were joined by crews of other ships captured by the Barbary States.[11]
>In 1795, Algeria came to an agreement that resulted in the release of 115 American sailors they held, at a cost of over $1 million. This amount totalled about one-sixth of the entire U.S. budget,[12] and was demanded as tribute by the Barbary States to prevent further piracy.
>The U.S. included a fucking frigate in the payment
>U.S. pays tribute for the next 15 years until Jefferson gets elected

Cuckposting aside, have criminals ever had so much influence over states?
Or was the fact the Barbary corsairs were backed by North African city-states an exception?
13 posts and 1 images submitted.
>>
Algeria didnt exist until France invented it in the 19th century
You must be talking about the Regency of Algiers, a city-state part of the Ottoman Empire
>>
>Cuckposting aside, have criminals ever had so much influence over states?

Sure. Ever heard of the USSR?
>>
The War on Drugs allows violent non-state actors to have great influence over states; but in that case it's the states decision to give them power, and an effective subsidy, so it's not quite like piracy or terrorism.

Hey /his/ I keep seeing these DNA graphs ever were how do you read them?
18 posts and 5 images submitted.
>>
>>548406
> DNA charts
I've bad news for you. Those are cultural charts. And they don't seem to make a lot of sense.
>>
>>548442
If I'd make a guess, it would be how much of each culture is represented in each country. So in Norway, half the archaeological findings are of the Yamnaya culture?
>>
>>548442
Wot?

Seems to me that their classifying some genetic testing from Starcevo and LBKT sites as the example of early neolithic genetics, then show the proportion of different modern european genetics which comes from this population, rather than later migrations such as the yamnaya. As in Sardinians are most similar genetically to the early neolithic Europeans.

I don't know the particular study, so I might be wrong, and it does seem simplified.

File: milkyWaySide1_300.jpg (544KB, 3300x1527px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
milkyWaySide1_300.jpg
544KB, 3300x1527px
Atheist Christian here.

I don't see the difference between reading the beautiful message of the New Testament in the same way I read Shakespeare.

>Love thy neighbour as thy love thyself.

You can't claim it isn't perfect in every way on the moral basis if you ignore the superstition.

https://www.beliefnet.com/resourcelib/docs/62/The_Jefferson_Bible_The_Life__Morals_of_Jesus_of_Nazareth_1.html

You don't need to believe in god to be a Christian.
28 posts and 5 images submitted.
>>
>>548235

>You don't need to believe in god to be a Christian.

Care to elaborate OP?
>>
I mean, maybe, but that just sounds like heresy, desu
Tell Bible-thumping Christians you're an atheist but you believe in God and you'll get BTFO pretty hard
A lot of Protestants would probably throw you in the bucket with Catholics and pagans
Civic religion is the most cucked form of spirituality ever practiced and the Founding Fathers were deists, so their understanding of God and religion is objectionable to most theists
>>
>>548235
Christianity completely hinges on the resurrection

1 Corinthians 15:14
>And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

File: 1427746107284.gif (3KB, 421x237px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
1427746107284.gif
3KB, 421x237px
Guys, it's 2016.

That means we can talk about 1991 now.

This was a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

What caused it?
19 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
As it turns out, command economies can work well when you're simply shoving peasants off of the fields and into factories, but when it comes to actually competing with an capitalist society, especially a capitalist society that has reached a post-industrial, heavily automated, service based economy, you don't have a chance in hell.
>>
Gorbachev being a pussy.
>>
https://a.pomf.cat/yizhwl.webm

File: opwintermap.jpg (73KB, 463x523px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
opwintermap.jpg
73KB, 463x523px
Why didn't Paulus attempt a breakthrough when Hoth's Army was only 40 km away?
15 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
File: uranus.jpg (34KB, 500x327px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
uranus.jpg
34KB, 500x327px
>>548041
They were too exhausted to do so. They had borne the brunt of the fighting in Stalingrad for months, and performing a counterattack would require turning all those exhausted men around to fight a relatively fresh force that greatly outnumbered them and was ready for exactly that.

The unfortunate thing with Stalingrad was that they were pretty much fucked as soon as Operation Uranus began. There was no way in hell the 6th Army was going to be able to pull out of Stalingrad in time to escape the encirclement short of a full-scale rout, and once they were encircled there was no feasible way to break out.

For all the shit Hitler gets over the Stalingrad airlift, it really was their best option there, especially with Demyansk and Kholm seemingly proving that it would work.
>>
>>548079
>For all the shit Hitler gets over the Stalingrad airlift, it really was their best option there
no

>airlift never comes close to even 10% of the 6th Army's requirements
>better not let them break out, better to have the entire army starve to death in place
>>
>>548041
Hoth's army? What is this, Star Wars?

File: heather1.jpg (85KB, 800x593px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
heather1.jpg
85KB, 800x593px
We all know about the famous Christmas truce of WW1, an unofficial ceasefire. But during the war truces were not unique to the Christmas period, and reflected a growing mood of "live and let live", where infantry in close proximity would stop overtly aggressive behaviour, and often engage in small-scale fraternisation, engaging in conversation or bartering for cigarettes.

Had this ever occured in other wars? At this scale?
16 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
Occasionally medical truces in WW2. Hurtgen Forest, pic related.
>>
>>547812
>We all know about the famous Christmas truce of WW1
the funny thing is... what "we all know" is outright wrong
the idea that thousands of soldiers engaged in jolly christmasy happy affairs and played tons of football or whatever is yet another of those sappy antiwar sentiments that ww1 seems to spawn
>>
>>547887

Why issue anti-fraternisation orders then?

File: Operation_Sea_lion.png (119KB, 800x533px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
Operation_Sea_lion.png
119KB, 800x533px
How realistic was the chances of Operation Sea Lion /HIS/ ? This has often been a vain of discussion amongst my friends and I. I think it could have happened but that Germany still would have lost. What about you fellow /HIS/torians
40 posts and 3 images submitted.
>>
>>547716
>How realistic was the chances of Operation Sea Lion
chances of it happening?
Plausible if the German High Command throws teddy out the pram
chances of succeeding?
Non-existent
>>
>>547716

>How realistic was the chances of Operation Sea Lion /HIS/ ?

Not at all.


>I think it could have happened but that Germany still would have lost.

The odds are pretty much 0 percent of it succeeding in anything but extremely bizarre and far-ranging alterations from the historical timeline.

If you're talking about a 1940 invasion with the war starting in September 39 more or less like history, it's not going to work. Germany doesn't have the airpower to completely control the channel, the ability to stop the Royal Navy from fucking things up if they did, the landing craft to ship enough troops over to survive a British counterattack, or the experience in naval landings to make something like this work.

When the Normandy landings happened in 1944, the beaches were hit with the equivalent of about 5 divisions. Germany didn't have a tenth of that fleet. And the British weren't helpless either. You hear a lot of people focusing on how hard it was to get across, but even if they somehow did, the British aren't going to roll over and die.

http://www.britishmilitaryhistory.co.uk/webeasycms/hold/uploads/bmh_document_pdf/40.09_Order_of_Battle_UK.pdf

What are the Germans going to do when 2 armored divisions roll down on them on the beaches?
>>
>>547716
There is a reason why Britain was invaded during the 17th-20th centuries, and the Germans managed to find all of them.

File: medieval_swords[1].jpg (25KB, 320x367px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
medieval_swords[1].jpg
25KB, 320x367px
Were coalitions a thing in Medieval Europe?
17 posts and 3 images submitted.
>>
Yes
t. EU4
>>
>>547615


Yes. Look at any major medieval warfare and it'll rarely be just one country against another.

Even something as insular as the Wars of the Roses saw the involvement of France, Burgundy answer Scotland.
>>
>>547615
Brief coalitions sure, nothing on the scale of 19th and 20th century alliances though.

File: image.jpg (69KB, 794x596px) Image search: [Google] [Yandex] [Bing]
image.jpg
69KB, 794x596px
what can you guys tell me about the Crimean war? I'm very interested in the subject and would like to learn more
15 posts and 4 images submitted.
>>
>>547511
Britain and France betrayed Christendom
>>
>>547543
how? by working with mudslimes?
>>
what can you guys tell me about the battles in this war?

Pages: [First page] [Previous page] [843] [844] [845] [846] [847] [848] [849] [850] [851] [852] [853] [854] [855] [856] [857] [858] [859] [860] [861] [Next page] [Last page]
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y / ] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
If a post contains illegal content, please click on its [Report] button and follow the instructions.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need information for a Poster - you need to contact them.
This website shows only archived content and is not affiliated with 4chan in any way.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoin at 1XVgDnu36zCj97gLdeSwHMdiJaBkqhtMK