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I understand that it was the intention of Hitler to defend the Italian colonies in Africa but after Rommel had succeeded in beating back allied forces he kept on going... Why? I'm genuinely curious as to why he didn't hold his position or told to stop by Hitler and other high ranking officials within the Wehrmacht. I've heard the argument that the continuing of the campaign in Africa might have assisted in diverting allied resources from the other fronts but wouldn't Rommel and the Afrika corps have been sent to the Russian or Western front (where good generals and experienced troops were need much more)? Did he disrupt any real supply lines of note in Egypt or was it all for not?
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>>1250565

>but after Rommel had succeeded in beating back allied forces he kept on going... Why?

Because Rommel was a glory hound with a very poor appreciation of overall strategy or logistical reality. He was an amazing tactician, won some battles when he made his initial landing, and kept assuming that if he could keep the magic going, keep winning battles, he'd win the war (or at least front) on pure virtuoso.

>I've heard the argument that the continuing of the campaign in Africa might have assisted in diverting allied resources from the other fronts

Honestly, he could probably do that better with an elastic defense around cyrenica than either of the alternatives you post. Also, the western Front when Rommel was on the offensive (1941-42) didn't really exist as such, and his overall force, of 3 German divisions and I think 5 Italian ones, would have been pretty small potatoes on the Eastern Front.

>Did he disrupt any real supply lines of note in Egypt or was it all for not?

It was all for nothing. The supply lines feeding Egypt pretty much went around Suez.

If you're interested in the subject, I would recommend The Path to Victory by Douglas Porch.
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>>1250626
That was really informative, thank you anon. Could I get your thoughts on the campaign itself? Was Rommel victim to a number of tragic accidents (injuries and illness forcing him to take leave from Africa) and unforeseen events (SAS sabotaging of supply lines and American reinforcements) or was his loss a result of poor planning and lack of foresight as you suggested earlier?
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>>1250695

>Was Rommel victim to a number of tragic accidents (injuries and illness forcing him to take leave from Africa) and unforeseen events (SAS sabotaging of supply lines and American reinforcements) or was his loss a result of poor planning and lack of foresight as you suggested earlier?


I would go more with the poor planning and lack of foresight. Another good read on the campaign's logistical side is this.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a348413.pdf

And yes, there were raids and problems all along the rear lines. SAS, strikes out of Malta, RAF forces taking potshots at things, but those really are foreseeable events, especially when your main supply tether is a hundreds of kilometers long "road" along the coast. He was spending some 30-50% of his fuel just having trucks going to the front and back from Tripoli hauling up all of the other stuff he needed to keep the advance going.

And a large part of it was, Rommel never really had to do this kind of thing before, he was a divisional commander along a main front, suddenly thrust to a theater command of a tertiary front. Before, at least for his career, getting supplies was a matter of making your case to your superiors that you needed them more than the next unit down the line, and how much you got from the goody bag was a reflection of your skills in persuasion and delivering results. If you could fight and win decisively, your superiors would be more inclined to be generous with fuel and munitions. Then he's pitched into a war where to get anything, you need to run past British raiders. And you only have one port of any size. And it's hundreds of kilometers away from where you're fighting. And you only have so many trucks, who themselves need to be fueled, maintained, cleaned, etc. It was one of the most logistically challenging theaters of the war, and this is a man with 0 logistical background put in charge of it all.

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Why be a Christian when it prevents you from truly enjoying the most intoxicating and brilliant stories told by man?
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>>1250403
But christians like Tolkien had no problem with storytime.
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>>1250432
>Tolkien
>Christian
xD

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What are the greatest or your favorite quotes in history?
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I AM THE SENATE
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>I have seen their backs before, madam.

>This is attributed to Wellington as a statement to an unidentified woman at a reception in Vienna, who had apologized for the rudeness of some French officers who had turned their backs on him when he entered, as quoted in Bartlett's Book of Anecdotes

Savage af
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What are you learning today, /his/?
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>>1250161
John Green does a better job of explaining Alexander the Great I would recommend his video on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LsrkWDCvxg
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>>1250182
>11 minute video
>youtube

>not wanting Jeremy McInerney's voice on the Greek antiquity.
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>>1250182
Go home John

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What is the best Military RTS? Gunna buy a laptop soon and want to cop some /his/ approved RTS games.
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Not exactly /his/ but Knights and Merchants is nice if you can tolerate the late DOS era graphics. It's available on Steam
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>>1250048

Sudden strike
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>>1250051
Oh, and if you want military then I recommend the Wargame series

Where does the masonic morality come from? What are its origins? And what is it based on?
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>>1249654
Christianity. Seriously, it's all from the Bible.
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>>1249654
Satanism. Seriously, it's all from the satanic bible.
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>>1249654
>>1249879
>>1249897
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Freemasonry
http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/ritualen_en.html
https://mega.nz/#F!0BZj1LZb!XrvWqq9Q5E3bWF31dEweZQ

What does this painting in the UN security council symbolize? What is its historic context?
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>>1249644
>has a slight medieval/religious connotation to it

inb4 the atheists of /his/ show up to decry it
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>>1249644
A luciferian parody of Christian symbols (the vesica piscis, the crane beaking its own chest) in a purely secular-demonic context.

It suits the UN's role as a tool of the N(J)ew World Order and precursor to the anti-Christ.
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>>1249781
>crane
Actually pelican.

Also how come uk and usa got some much credit in the more for not doing too much
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>>1249377

Barely credited by who?
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>>1249377
Because they got real twitchy after the war ended.
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Because of anti-soviet propaganda of the cold war.

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Was the Islamic Golden age actually a time of intellectual advancement or just a meme?
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>>1249250

non-whites have never contributed anything to science, philosophy, or academia.

all ancient civilizations were built by an ancient nordic ruling caste that was bred out due to forced interracial breeding imposed by ancient liberals
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>>1249250
>or just a meme
Honestly kill yourself
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The meme is that Islam during that time period is falsely represented as a unified political entity where there were multiple competing Islamic states.

That being said, progress is more likely to happen in places with positive economic conditions and during the middle ages, the Islamic world had the trade routes to the east and west run through it. The biggest decline in the Islamic world was when Europeans advance sailing and navigation techniques to bypass an increasingly hostile Ottoman state thus reducing the flow of money through those areas and making the Mediterranean largely irrelevant

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Hey, /his/

Tell me about Zoroastrianism.
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It steals of ideas from Christianity.
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>>1249145

If Jesus was also a time traveler who traveled back to 600 before he was born, I guess that would be true
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>>1249145
>any religion stealing ideas from christianity
topkek

Why doesn't God just move incoming bullets away from the car?

That really makes you think ...
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>>1249128
Why bother?

Underage posters really need to leave....
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Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel.
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>>1249128
>god is a big bearded man in the sky who just wants you to have fun and kisses your boo boos

Fuck off reddit

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Tell me about this good man /his/.
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Best 20th century african leader
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>>1249125
As usual, gommies ruined everything.
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>>1249148
Totally. I feel bad for him, he was trying to adapt the ancient culture of his country to modern times and to lead Africa through the decolonization stage.

Fresh OC, does /his/ have any other historical maymays?
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No fun allowed?
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Here are mine.
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I'd like to know some names of ancient religious has to do with cult of the soul or strange spirit.
Do you have any ideas??
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>>1248880
you'll have to be a little more specific OP
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I like egyptian religious, it has an interesting view about the path of the soul in the life after death.
and in ancient greek religious too.
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like in egyptian religious they believe that the body was a sort of ship that gives help to the rebirth of the soul in the after life

>Instituted Socialist policies.
>Was effectively President for life.
>Supported Communist states during WWII
>Fought against Germany and Italy, who were attempting to protect Europe from Communism.

Remind me why FDR wasn't a communist?
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>>1248838
Because he did not give the means of production to the proletariat.
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>>1248838
It was arguably Bill Clinton who killed FDR's legacy the most.
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>>1248844
Many things he pushed with executive orders were ruled unconstitutional later, he pretty much went as far as possible and then some

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