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How did Islam spread all the way to fucking Indonesia?
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Through good old violence
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Indonesia seems pretty nice for a muslim country.
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With the sword.
Islam=submission.

Islam = violence.

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>tfw can't even make myself eat healthily anymore due to existential crisis reasons ("Who cares, looking good is a spook" or "Procrastinating this won't mater, having low willpower won't matter" etc)
>tfw struggling to have any beliefs at all (whether to work hard or be lazy)
>as shown by my 4chan presence I just do whatever is lowbrow enough to manipulate me (internet, fast food)

wat do???
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>not willing the Good for its own sake
>having an inner life so devoid of feeling for life and existence he needs to be argued into not living like a fucking animal chasing the dopamine dragon

lmao I feel bad for u son
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Just like start lifting heavy weights alot
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>>1417482
Just waddle over to /r9k/, they give plenty of excellent advice.

>ITT we list the ideas that really made us go nutballz.

1)When I was taught how a mathematical limit is defined.
2)When as an athesit and after studying philosophy I realzied that there is a space for god in our coneptions of existence.
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>>1417146
>When as an athesit and after studying philosophy I realzied that there is a space for god in our coneptions of existence.
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>>1417146
>ITT we list the ideas that really made us go nutballz.

>MFW I learned Austria and Australia were different countries

boy it sure cleared up a lot of confusion I had
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>MFW taxation is theft

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Why did the mongols convert to islam? It sounds very illogical to convert to a religion of people you BTFOd. Also why didnt they also convert to orthodoxy when they conquered Rus?
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>>1417116
because politics is not a contest of who btfos who
you have to compromise to win over supporters
the difference between golden horde and ilkhanate was due to population factors if i remember correctly
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Because it was the will of allah, no matter what happened islam would still prevail in the end
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>>1417116
>you BTFOd.

>who are the mamluks

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Any cool WWII documenteries that you can recommend?
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>>1417047
Really. Aren't you supersaturated with WWII documentaries yet? There are a half dozen every day on cable and more just waiting on your Netflix.

Golly
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>>1417047
Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told
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>>1417047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnu5uW9No8g

So, pictured here is Kublai Khan, the Khan of Khans in the Mongolian Empire. An empire which, at its peak, became the largest one the earth had ever known.

Kublai was the first Mongol emperor to unite China under the Than dynasty, and grandson of the Great Chinggiss (Genghis) Khan.

If Marco Polo's tales of his great travels are true, Marco rose to a level of importance in the royal court of Kublai, and upon his return to Venice told stories of the silk road, persia, the steppe, China, and recounted stories of the vast armies of the Khan, (the most powerful man on earth at the time) sweeping through southern China and destroying the Song Dynasty.

There was much infighting between the traditional nomad Khanates and the great house of Kublai, and many historians believe that kublai's influence was mostly limited to inner Mongolia, and north/south china.

His empire extended from Mongolia to korea, the sea of Japan to the baltic, and included many Slavic, (poland, east germany, rus, hungary, the crimeab khanate, etc) Persian lands, Arab lands, the Caucasus mountains, and southeast Asia and Burma, though India remained unconquered.

I feel there is little discussion in the west of the brief period of Asiatic (Chinese, Mongol, Persian-Arab Islamic) supremacy here in the west.

Any one have some light that they can shed upon the periods often known as the Islamic Golden Age, The Mongol empire, and the age of Chinese sea faring exploration?

Why were these cultures only so briefly dominant? Why did they fall into dissarray and relative poverty only to be conquered later by European colonizers?

I know the Arabs and Persians mostly just translated and built upon older scientific books and manuscripts from rome, greece, egypt, etc, but why was that not enough? What stopped the far east's supremacy?

I hope some lurkers with useful knowledge find this thread and are open to enlightening me with more information.
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>>1416954
He United the Chinese under the Yuan Dynasty, not "Than". Damn autocorrect
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The empire was too damn big.
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>>1416970
I understand this and the huge logistics problems the Mongols faced, including their being forced to become religiously tolerant of all faiths and using a meritocracy to promote foreigners from conquered lands to administrative positions, which in theory is not bad in and of itself, yet it opened the door to treachery and conspiracy from many administrators that despised the slaughter the Mongol armies wrought upon their homes.

However, even if the Mongol empire collapsing dealt a large blow to eastern supremacy, the Chinese still had amazing technology and a sea-faring fleet of ships ripe for trade, exploration, war, and colonization. What stopped then from conquering the world as opposed to the British, Spanish, or Dutch many centuries later?

Was it Chinese isolationist policy?

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i thought this night be relevant to your interests, and cause a little outrage at the destruction of history.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11101639/WW1-machine-gun-found-in-mans-garage.html
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bait
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>>1416904
why is it bait? it's genuinely horrible.
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Well the artillery shells and explosives were blown up, not the guns, helmets or uniforms, I think, too lazy to read the whole article

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ITT: We act like we aren't just arrogant young dumdums and present how world should work in our opinion and insult each other based on our ignorance

i'll start
I think every nation should balkanize so every country would have +/- same number of citizens and those countries should then be locked in regional unions (Iberian, British, French, Bengalese etc.). Mainly it would be for bigger diversity, competition and less power to individuals.
Also every nation should be democratic, but there should be some tests examining knowledge of the current political situation, so only people who know what they are doing would vote.
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Everyone should be plugged into a cranial droud that constantly triggers euphoric chemicals.
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>>1416765

What is Balkanization? I am aware I could easily look this up, but I'd much rather talk about it on a Cantonese rice trading e-bulletin.

As for democracy I agree. Only through true democracy can the people become more aware of politics. I know at first it'll be a massive shitstorm, but I hope that through trial and error a true democracy would lead to a new political era where one votes on an issue rather than for representation. I feel that representative democracy has been made obsolete with the advancements in social media, GPS, file transfer speeds, etc.

So I disagree on limiting the ability of a person to vote regardless of that person's knowledge on the topic. That is the exact system we have in America that led to the two parties.
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>>1416765
one time i read an interesting idea in one book

newly-crowned emperor of this huge empire would have to be locked in his room the day after corronation and spend whole of it from dusk till dawn reading this one huge book. The room or the book, i can't recall which, were full of some drug, so when reading this book, it literally brainwashed this emperor into being a perfect ruler as he was described in the book.

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How do I find out about the early christian saints? There's so many of them and I don't know which are relevant or which are made up, what miracles they performed, what they said, what role they played in spreading Christianity, etc, etc.

Is there any good books on the subject for people who don't know where to begin?
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Bump. Really interested in the too.
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>>1416533

It's probably fairly safe to assume most of them are made up.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_saints

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/his/, can you tell me something interesting about Joan of Arc?
I'm interested about her, but don't know much.
Especially something about her personality and looks, or is this kind of information lost in the depths of history?
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>>1416520
She was a qt
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>>1416538
>short haired girls
>cute
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>>1416566
>Has never seen "better off dead" or "bill and teds excellent adventure"

Pleb

what did he want?
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>>1416475
A military victory to boost his popularity in the Senate. The Roman Republican government valued civil service and military glory from their magistrates, and Crassus lacked the military record of his contemporary, Pompey.

Crassus had previously won victories at the Colline Gate and against Spartacus, but they were overshadowed by Sulla and Pompey, respectively.
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>>1416571

Nice post, pal
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>>1416475
Wasn't he worth like a trillion dollars?

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Is life without love essentially deficient?

I was in a relationship in the past and had sex on several occasions but for the last 5 years of solitude it didn't bother me to be alone. I just honestly consider a relationship to be a huge hassle with diminishing benefits.

Is it okay to live like this? I ask because some top philosophers say that love is important.
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>>1416333
Love is only important to those that consider it important to them. There are many other reasons to live
>for your family
>for your country
And if you lurk /pol/
>for your race
>for western civilisation
Decide for yourself what the purpose of your life should be.
If you don't feel the need to fall in love, there's nothing inherently wrong with that
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>>1416333
>romantic love is the only form of love, and inseparable from sexual attraction
>I am incapable of expressing nuanced and sophisticated emotional gradients by a limited Germanic language

o i am laffin
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>>1416504
If you want to be specific I do not care for any of the 4 types.

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Why did atheism only develop and become widespread in the Christian world? Does this fact undermine the credibility of Christianity?
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>>1416262
It didn't.

Atheism was present in Indian and East Asian religious thinking. Especially the Latter since to the Chinese, the """""""Gods""""" were accepted as aloof of mortal concerns and that man must carry things in his own end (i,e, justice, morality, propriety etc.)
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>>1416262
>Does this fact undermine the credibility of Christianity?
It goes to Christianity's credit for making people reasonable and stepping aside
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>>1416262
Because Islam still lives in the middle ages. They kill everybody that claims to be an atheist.

Besides only atheists in USA are absolute edgy retards. Every atheist i met in Europe is just a normalfag and doesn't force his choice on religious people.
The prime minister of my country is atheist. Nobody gives a shit.

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Why did king-philosophers never existed? Is it because philosophers are shit kings or kings are shit in philosophy?
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Hello.
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Marcus Aurelius was an emperor and a philosopher.

In their original sense, the ruling class of Kallipolis didn't exist because Kallipolis didn't exist in the first place.
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There was one in Athena I believe when Sulla was in power. I believed while the city was being sieged he stood at the gate singing means songs and generally being useless.

>Entente and Alliedboo: "Belgium wuz a gud boy, he dindu nuffin wrong to deserve Germany rolling in there, fucking the entire country up twice in 25 years. He wuz minding his business and the evil Germans looted him clean #iamBegium #BelgianLivesMatter."

The Eternal Belgian deserved to get rolled over the way that it was and you know it. The only reason Brit and Frenchcucks get upset over it was because Belgium was a microcosm of their own colonial atrocities.
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Right, I'm sure Germany was just avenging the Congolese, you fucking moron.
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Not at all the point, fuckface. Belgium is hardly some sweet little country, they acted like big shots and got their asses burned when the shit heated up.

A meme country meets real life consequences.
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>>1416143
German rule in Africa was as cruel if not more, just for different reasons. Also the infamous "belgian" atrocities are from the time when Leopold had Congo but the place was not part from Belgium.

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